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2019 General Election - Match Thread
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BREAKING NEWS: Diane Abbott reported to be ecstatic at the exit poll numbers.13
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When you say 'we' does that include Northern Ireland?0
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Combination I'd say. Firstly, Swinson is crap, secondly, there's a squeeze between labour and Tories, thirdly, still tainted by the coalition (know lots of natural lib Dems, all hate the Tories) fourthly, the unilateral policy of cancelling article 50 didn't sit right. Needed a second referendumcarly burn said:I keep hearing tonight that this is a Brexit election.
If that's so, why are the Lib Dems predicted to do so poorly?0 -
Not for the public, we aren't all stupid enough to be so short sighted to only think of Brexit as part of this election.carly burn said:
So it's not a Brexit election then.Dazzler21 said:
People have no faith in them to manage the nation beyond cancelling brexit?carly burn said:I keep hearing tonight that this is a Brexit election.
If that's so, why are the Lib Dems predicted to do so poorly?
At least I don't think we are.0 -
The question developing is what is the UK.
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I agree, this is wider than Brexit. The British people are not stupid. They weren’t buying that only the top 5% including 150 billionaires would be footing the bill for Labour’s proposed policies. It might sound great, but back in the real world.......Dazzler21 said:
Not for the public, we aren't all stupid enough to be so short sighted to only think of Brexit as part of this election.carly burn said:
So it's not a Brexit election then.Dazzler21 said:
People have no faith in them to manage the nation beyond cancelling brexit?carly burn said:I keep hearing tonight that this is a Brexit election.
If that's so, why are the Lib Dems predicted to do so poorly?
At least I don't think we are.4 -
Possibly because a majority of people voted LEAVE and the Lib Dems stood on a 'Stop Brexit' ticket.carly burn said:I keep hearing tonight that this is a Brexit election.
If that's so, why are the Lib Dems predicted to do so poorly?1 -
Let's remember only 3 seats have been declared so far!0
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Farage kept saying this in his BBC interview (when he wasn’t talking about touring with Trump)cantersaddick said:Blyth Valley. The Brexit party won the seat for the Conservatives. They took votes from Labour. A lot don't get this.
0 MPs for the Brexit party but ultimately they’ve handed this majority to the Tories.0 -
I hear ya Len. But nearly 50% voted remain.LenGlover said:
Possibly because a majority of people voted LEAVE and the Lib Dems stood on a 'Stop Brexit' ticket.carly burn said:I keep hearing tonight that this is a Brexit election.
If that's so, why are the Lib Dems predicted to do so poorly?
In terms of Brexit, only one party was offering leave and the other was pretty much offering remain.
If this was purely a Brexit election then the Lib Dems would have done significantly better. Wouldn't they?0 -
Still have a feel that Conservative won’t get as many seats as predicted.0
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sorry, another question as just got home and bit pissed. On bbc says labour 46% Con 34% Brexit 10%Amazing if con has such a majority with low voting percentages0
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Same, but should be enough. The exit polls have never, ever been that wrong have they?0
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I’m not sure, the Tory’s winning Blyth Valley was pretty telling.AFKABartram said:Still have a feel that Conservative won’t get as many seats as predicted.0 -
And exactly in line with what the exit poll said would happen there.se9addick said:
I’m not sure, the Tory’s winning Blyth Valley was pretty telling.AFKABartram said:Still have a feel that Conservative won’t get as many seats as predicted.1 -
But the very nature of it means that reform only gains traction when results like this happen and the party in control are never going to change it are theyse9addick said:
First Past the Post system at its finest.MrOneLung said:sorry, another question as just got home and bit pissed. On bbc says labour 46% Con 34% Brexit 10%Amazing if con has such a majority with low voting percentages
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Pretty slow here as per usual. I'm off for a smoke in the bogs and a cold pie.0
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Social media is a funny thing. Judging by my Facebook and Twitter feeds over the past few weeks, you would think hardly anyone votes Tory, yet come election night, they win by a very large margin.
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I think you may be right. If I were in Scotland right now, despite disliking Nationalism intensely I hate the Etonocracy even more, and would work for independence.se9addick said:
I refer you to my previous point - the UK is...broken into separate pieces, diametrically opposed to one another, and putting it back together might not be possible.seth plum said:The question developing is what is the UK.
In Ireland the prospects are darkening, and will continue to do so when ultimately there are two different systems either side of the land border.
In urban areas the move towards an integrated society will possibly be in a state of constant tension against the shires where the political events show they dislike integration.
In the industrialised UK 'rust belt' which will extend under proposed policies there will be a wasteland.0 -
Oh it will never change. Turkeys don’t vote for Christmas.Leeds_Addick said:
But the very nature of it means that reform only gains traction when results like this happen and the party in control are never going to change it are theyse9addick said:
First Past the Post system at its finest.MrOneLung said:sorry, another question as just got home and bit pissed. On bbc says labour 46% Con 34% Brexit 10%Amazing if con has such a majority with low voting percentages0 -
I think it's more accurate to say Labour supposed supporters are less likely to get out and vote.Gravesend_Addick said:Social media is a funny thing. Judging by my Facebook and Twitter feeds over the past few weeks, you would think hardly anyone votes Tory, yet come election night, they win by a very large margin.
I think Labour voters are just very very vocal about it2 -
Actually think it is live percentages on results in rather than national predictionsLeeds_Addick said:
But the very nature of it means that reform only gains traction when results like this happen and the party in control are never going to change it are theyse9addick said:
First Past the Post system at its finest.MrOneLung said:sorry, another question as just got home and bit pissed. On bbc says labour 46% Con 34% Brexit 10%Amazing if con has such a majority with low voting percentages0 -
At work this week we were discussing the "silent majority" and their influence. Don't know if there is any evidence to suggest this exists, but it certainly seems to play out...Gravesend_Addick said:Social media is a funny thing. Judging by my Facebook and Twitter feeds over the past few weeks, you would think hardly anyone votes Tory, yet come election night, they win by a very large margin.
I think Labour voters are just very very vocal about it0 -
I don’t buy that for a second mateDazzler21 said:
I think it's more accurate to say Labour supposed supporters are less likely to get out and vote.Gravesend_Addick said:Social media is a funny thing. Judging by my Facebook and Twitter feeds over the past few weeks, you would think hardly anyone votes Tory, yet come election night, they win by a very large margin.
I think Labour voters are just very very vocal about it0 -
wonder if Brexit party will get more votes (and no seats) than the LibDs and SNP ?1
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carly burn said:
I hear ya Len. But nearly 50% voted remain.LenGlover said:
Possibly because a majority of people voted LEAVE and the Lib Dems stood on a 'Stop Brexit' ticket.carly burn said:I keep hearing tonight that this is a Brexit election.
If that's so, why are the Lib Dems predicted to do so poorly?
In terms of Brexit, only one party was offering leave and the other was pretty much offering remain.
If this was purely a Brexit election then the Lib Dems would have done significantly better. Wouldn't they?
Remainers don't think that simplistically. By virtue of our FPTP system, the better route to Remain was clearly always to vote Labour and a second referendum.
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I think it’s more that Labour supporters tend to be younger and therefore more engaged with social media. Tory voters tend to be older and therefore engage with traditional media (newspapers etc) so you see more Tory representation in the printed press.
These are generalisations but I think broadly accurate.4
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