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Neil Harris has resigned - again (p8)
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Massive shame, I think they were for the drop with him in charge. From the very little I had seen of them this season they seemed very direct. It will be interesting to see what happens if the new manager comes in and wants to play it on the deck, have they got the players to do that, hopefully they have not.0
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He was a good manager for Millwall and hard to dislike, especially after his courage in fighting back from a terrible illness. Whilst it is always great to see Millwall struggling, it is easier when you don't like the manager. I can enjoy it much more now unless Chrissy Powell takes over!1
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He felt under pressure because their fans put him under pressure. Not that I would expect it to be any different here or anywhere else. Football fans as a collective aren't very good at understanding the relationship between wage/transfer budget compared to your competitors and what that means in terms of what you can achieve on the pitch.MuttleyCAFC said:Anything above League One is over achieving for Millwall so it is beyond me why Harris felt under any pressure.
Parkinson got loads of grief at Charlton, whilst we were on the verge of administration, because we weren't very good to watch (even though we were always in the promotion mix in League 1). If you don't have any money, you can't go out and buy the players that are capable of playing pretty football - you have to find other ways to pick up results. Powell got grief as well, as did some of his later signings - Simon Church wasn't a very good footballer, but I'm pretty sure there wasn't anyone else available on a free with the same wage demands, he was the best we could get with the money available.
Bowyer has worked a miracle so far this season, but he'd still be over-achieving if we were second from bottom, as we have the lowest budget in the division. You can guarantee there'd be people moaning if we were 23rd in the table though.
Think Millwall will miss Harris more than Harris will miss Millwall. Certainly hope so anyway.26 -
Bet he was buggered up therericky_otto said:0 -
Club legend jumping before he was pushed so as not to taint his 'legend' status.
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Chris_from_Sidcup said:Club legend jumping before he was pushed so as not to taint his 'legend' status.
It's what all good legends should do.0 -
Worst case scenario: Houghton
Best case scenario: Keane1 -
Maybe you'll get the bite on your third try. 😉Big_Bad_World said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Club legend jumping before he was pushed so as not to taint his 'legend' status.
It's what all good legends should do.4 -
Please please be Roy Keane. The guy is an absolute tool who 10 years later is still bitter about Fergie.
Would like to see him fuck up at another club, and no better club than the spanners.
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mid_life_crisis said:Worst case scenario: Houghton
Best case scenario: Keane
Keane wouldn't be a bad fit, to be honest.Worst case would be Holloway but that wont happen.
Nathan Jones, Keane, Gary Rowett (my preferred choice)....all good choices for me.
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WSS said:
Maybe you'll get the bite on your third try. 😉Big_Bad_World said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:Club legend jumping before he was pushed so as not to taint his 'legend' status.
It's what all good legends should do.
I'm just matching the number of failed tries by others
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Maybe worth a new thread, but when has a club playing legend, gone on to manage the same team successfully?1
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....Harris was probably doing okay for a while I spose0
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I hope Roland never sells the club and decimates your youth system.DoctorCharlton said:Please please be Roy Keane. The guy is an absolute tool who 10 years later is still bitter about Fergie.
Would like to see him fuck up at another club, and no better club than the spanners.
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The direct style made sense for the players they have. It would be a big risk to appoint a manager who played a completely different way as De Boer at Palace showed until tragically Roy Hodgson turned it aroundbigman backstick said:Massive shame, I think they were for the drop with him in charge. From the very little I had seen of them this season they seemed very direct. It will be interesting to see what happens if the new manager comes in and wants to play it on the deck, have they got the players to do that, hopefully they have not.0 -
Never knew he signed in the first place
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Millwall fans force out manager as the style of football employed was too industrial.
I've heard it all now...
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Beaches of Rio Wapping,AFKABartram said:Millwall fans force out manager as the style of football employed was too industrial.
I've heard it all now...
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Neil Harris is someone I have never quite been able to dislike, especially having spoken to him once or twice when he's been down Sparrows Lane. He's clearly knowledgeable about the game, though perhaps the style of football he played throughout his career rubbed off on him a little too much and impacted his managerial style.Big_Bad_World said:It's never nice to see a legend hounded out by a very vocal section of the crowd. He knew that time may have been around the corner so walked with his dignity in tact, unlike other legends at other clubs.
I don't mean that as too much of a slight by the way - more that Bowyer, for instance, played at a higher level, and thus he engenders a "prettier" way of playing. Harris is a horse for a certain course, but relegation with (I presume) limited funding this year looked on the cards.
What might be slightly unfair on him is that you appoint someone who is then backed in the transfer market in January.
Either way, I hope whoever comes in next has an absolutely awful time of it and you go down, of course, but I do have a respect for Harris and it's a shame he had to jump before being pushed.0 - Sponsored links:
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In the few encounters I had with Harris usually at U23 games he always came across as a good bloke, and seemed generally respected.
My impression is he did well and was a good fit for Millwall, maybe it is familiarity breeding contempt or a seven year itch that has led to a parting of the ways.
The next appointment will be interesting, if it is somebody completely new to English football and Millwall I think it will be quite a risk.0 -
We certainly have the players to play a more expansive game. Continuously bypassing midfield to lump it up to Smith who, when played alone up top, is ineffective, is counter productive.
We've also got wingers that can play but rarely got a touch due to the tactics employed.
Our midfield always complained of neck-ache.
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Spanner at work mentioned that Cahill has now done his badges and could be in with a shout?0
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I've picked the Spanners to draw with Leeds in the prediction thread. Reckon that will be wrong now
It seems odd that a manager who is over-achieving given their budget should walk, but suspect he is "leaving as a legend" (C) @Big_Bad_Worldbecause he knows what the fans are like and could see the writing on the wall. He's been doing it for 4 years now, which is a long stretch at any club (I only hope we've still got Bows in 3 years' time).
Millwall also have a decent owner, so it's not like they'll go for Karel Fraeye.0 -
It would be good if they try to bring in a manager who wants to play football as their current squad is not set up for this. The transition is likely to be problematic.1
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Ha, your lot would have Nathan Jones in tears within a couple of weeks.Big_Bad_World said:mid_life_crisis said:Worst case scenario: Houghton
Best case scenario: Keane
Keane wouldn't be a bad fit, to be honest.Worst case would be Holloway but that wont happen.
Nathan Jones, Keane, Gary Rowett (my preferred choice)....all good choices for me.
Keane, being a complete psycho, would be the perfect fit.2 -
MuttleyCAFC said:It would be good if they try to bring in a manager who wants to play football as their current squad is not set up for this. The transition is likely to be problematic.
Balderdash.1 -
Who's he.Big_Bad_World said:MuttleyCAFC said:It would be good if they try to bring in a manager who wants to play football as their current squad is not set up for this. The transition is likely to be problematic.
Balderdash.
Has he got his coaching badges.3 -
blackpool72 said:
Who's he.Big_Bad_World said:MuttleyCAFC said:It would be good if they try to bring in a manager who wants to play football as their current squad is not set up for this. The transition is likely to be problematic.
Balderdash.
Has he got his coaching badges.
He's married to Poppycock. They're inseparable.4 -
Won't be Holloway in a million years. Didn't he get all sort of abuse when he went back managing another club? (Can't remember who)Big_Bad_World said:mid_life_crisis said:Worst case scenario: Houghton
Best case scenario: Keane
Keane wouldn't be a bad fit, to be honest.Worst case would be Holloway but that wont happen.
Nathan Jones, Keane, Gary Rowett (my preferred choice)....all good choices for me.
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