Conor Gallagher - Going to Athletico (p81)
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Sorry but Mason had already had time abroad playing first team football. Conor is a very very good player but still very much an unknown quantity at first team levelLincsaddick said:
his Chelsea mate, 20 year old Mason Mount (great name b t w) played 38 games for Derby last season and is now a possible to make the Chelsea starting bench .. any young man who can survive at Chelsea with all they have to choose from has just got to be 'good quality'Bournemouth Addick said:
It's an interesting one and at a more sane, sensibly ran football club, one where you'd be very happy to pick up one of Chelsea's best kids to supplement the squad. I worry though that at 19 our expectations need serious tempering as to the impact he can potentially make and that more generally we don't become over reliant on loanees.1 -
So was Gordon BanksDazzler21 said:
At one point he was England's no.1 so probably better than Amos still.Cafc43v3r said:
Well best get Rob Green signed upDazzler21 said:
He was good enough to make the bench in a Europa League final, have any of our other players done that?roseandcrown said:
Cullen replacement, will he he be an upgrade though?cafctom said:If he is their Academy Player of the Year then he must have some quality about him.
Based on the way Bowyer described him, it sounds like he has a similar traits to a Scott Parker type player - tenacious all rounder. Let’s hope he adds something!0 -
Probably better than Amos still.Cafc43v3r said:
So was Gordon BanksDazzler21 said:
At one point he was England's no.1 so probably better than Amos still.Cafc43v3r said:
Well best get Rob Green signed upDazzler21 said:
He was good enough to make the bench in a Europa League final, have any of our other players done that?roseandcrown said:
Cullen replacement, will he he be an upgrade though?cafctom said:If he is their Academy Player of the Year then he must have some quality about him.
Based on the way Bowyer described him, it sounds like he has a similar traits to a Scott Parker type player - tenacious all rounder. Let’s hope he adds something!1 -
Bowyer wanted five yesterday so I think it’ll be four to go.Davo55 said:Sounds like a good signing.
One down, six to go.
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6 if Dijksteel or Taylor leaves?Callumcafc said:
Bowyer wanted five yesterday so I think it’ll be four to go.Davo55 said:Sounds like a good signing.
One down, six to go.
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the point I was making was his tender age, not so much his experience ..Sid James Fan Club said:
Sorry but Mason had already had time abroad playing first team football. Conor is a very very good player but still very much an unknown quantity at first team levelLincsaddick said:
his Chelsea mate, 20 year old Mason Mount (great name b t w) played 38 games for Derby last season and is now a possible to make the Chelsea starting bench .. any young man who can survive at Chelsea with all they have to choose from has just got to be 'good quality'Bournemouth Addick said:
It's an interesting one and at a more sane, sensibly ran football club, one where you'd be very happy to pick up one of Chelsea's best kids to supplement the squad. I worry though that at 19 our expectations need serious tempering as to the impact he can potentially make and that more generally we don't become over reliant on loanees.
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Hadn't heard of him until a few weeks ago but I'd not heard if Bielik either until he signed.
Welcome and good luck Connor.3 -
We need to strengthen midfield for sure so hopefully he will do that and stay fit if he's any good.
Not a given with Charlton as we know.0 -
Looking back at the last couple of Chelsea's academy of the year players, they have all had good seasons in the championship.2
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I’m sure he will be quality, you don’t get academy player of the year at Chelsea for nothing. He will be protected by Pratley, Sarr, Pierce and co. Should do very well when Bowyer injects his aggression into him.
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robroy said:I’m sure he will be quality, you don’t get academy player of the year at Chelsea for nothing. He will be protected by Pratley, Sarr, Pierce and co. Should do very well when Bowyer injects his aggression into him.
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Dominic Solanke2016 Fikayo Tomori2017 Mason Mount2018 Reece James2019 Conor Gallagher
Academy player of the year seems like a recently new thing for Chelsea. Everyone who has won it has had a solid season with a championship team apart from Solanke who went abroad.
So Gallagher is in good company.14 -
This is a good signing although these matters should be borne in mind : he is a 19 year old kid and not a seasoned pro , we are probably not paying a large part of his wages so that of itself should speak volumes about why he has joined , we are trusting a very promising but not experienced management team to make decisions about players in very trying circumstances imposed by financial constraints , he must play otherwise Chelsea will send him elsewhere , he will need experience around him to guide him through his first season in senior football which means that as matters stand Pratley and Pearce must also play , it is not known what levels of fitness he has but as a Chelsea kid he ought to be in good shape and it will take time for him to integrate . LB , JJ and SG would appear to have done a better job of selling us to him than Harris etc which also bodes well for other signingsFishCostaFortune said:
People will probably not agree with you, but I do get your point. I would say Gallagher is definitely more of a risk then say Cullen at least. I am sure there has been many highly rated 'wonderkids' or have gone out on loan and not performed or never reached their potential.Valley11 said:Think we should remember he's never played senior football and is only 19.
This isn't quite the same as signing Cullen and Bielik last year, who had both played senior football and were coming to us to play in the 3rd division.
LB and SG are not going to get it right every time, however even with their current financial restraints, they seem to have a very clear idea and process of the sort of player they want, and the style they want to play - which I think can only be a good thing.1 -
Was just googling this you beat me to it, the calibre of player there is massive and the previous four to Gallagher all went on loan at similar age some even younger, on that basis this is a brilliant signing.FishCostaFortune said:robroy said:I’m sure he will be quality, you don’t get academy player of the year at Chelsea for nothing. He will be protected by Pratley, Sarr, Pierce and co. Should do very well when Bowyer injects his aggression into him.
welcome2015 Dominic Solanke2016 Fikayo Tomori2017 Mason Mount2018 Reece James2019 Conor Gallagher
Academy player of the year seems like a recently new thing for Chelsea. Everyone who has won it has had a solid season with a championship team apart from Solanke who went abroad.
So Gallagher is in good company.0 -
Whats not to like. Highly rated and I think Gallen has his handwriting all over this. Be very surprised if he isn’t a real gem. Not too many around who could be better tutors than Lee Bowyer for a young midfielder. Provided his attitude is right I think it’s a great signing.1
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Welcome Conor, may our time together be fruitful.0
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My Chelsea mate reckons he was instrumental in their development team last term and probably close to a first team berth this season. Fingers crossed6
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Gallagher lad scored the winner at the rusty toolbox.
And after all, you’re shit millwall.0 -
I messaged the Chelsea FM researcher who’s very knowledgeable of their youth sides and watches them regularly. Below is his view of Gallagher which sounds very positive for us. It’ll be interesting to see how Bowyer uses him, though that’ll depend on who we bring in (or not). On the weakness he’s picked out I’m sure that’s something Bowyer will help him deal with and improve on.
I really like him and was singing his praises for a while before he started to kick on and gain wider recognition.
He used to be a wide player but has settled down into central areas (partially because he had injuries, but also because of his build and his attributes), and can play any sort of midfield role you want. Started out as a bit of a deep defensive type, breaking up play, getting stuck in physically, that sort of thing, but demonstrated that he has a lot more about him too. Good, purposeful passing (something I think separates tiers of talent at youth level; certain players knock it around to look pretty, then some like Con will hit it with a punch and a reason and makes sure it gets to where it needs to be), and he also has a really good engine. Over the last year he added goals to his game, a good finisher late around the box, good off free kicks, and is a credible box to box type now.
Jody Morris was always a big fan, mostly due to his character and leadership, as you'd always get full commitment from him and he wouldn't bullshit his way through things. Leaned on him a lot and was rewarded. The biggest concern I have, and I think some of the academy staff shared, is that he's a little slow on the turn or in tight spaces if the play quickens around him, possibly because of his build. He has a couple of brothers in non league football who are older and share the same issue to a greater extent (hence why they're down there) but he's done well in challenging himself to improve there, and will continue to do so in the men's game. It's not a problem to have a flaw, it's about adjusting to it and making sure it doesn't expose your team, and he's a bright kid who gets it and wants to play at the top.
I think he'll do well. Fireworks off the bat might not happen as he has no pro experience but he showed in pre-season that he has the traits to adapt and thrive, so over a 46-game season there's a good chance he'll become a big player for you. If nothing else, his mentality will win fans over very quickly.
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I like this bit... If we did have a really bad season I dont want it to be watching a bunch of players who dont give a shitScoham said:I messaged the Chelsea FM researcher who’s very knowledgeable of their youth sides and watches them regularly. Below is his view of Gallagher which sounds very positive for us. It’ll be interesting to see how Bowyer uses him, though that’ll depend on who we bring in (or not). On the weakness he’s picked out I’m sure that’s something Bowyer will help him deal with and improve on.I really like him and was singing his praises for a while before he started to kick on and gain wider recognition.
He used to be a wide player but has settled down into central areas (partially because he had injuries, but also because of his build and his attributes), and can play any sort of midfield role you want. Started out as a bit of a deep defensive type, breaking up play, getting stuck in physically, that sort of thing, but demonstrated that he has a lot more about him too. Good, purposeful passing (something I think separates tiers of talent at youth level; certain players knock it around to look pretty, then some like Con will hit it with a punch and a reason and makes sure it gets to where it needs to be), and he also has a really good engine. Over the last year he added goals to his game, a good finisher late around the box, good off free kicks, and is a credible box to box type now.
Jody Morris was always a big fan, mostly due to his character and leadership, as you'd always get full commitment from him and he wouldn't bullshit his way through things. Leaned on him a lot and was rewarded. The biggest concern I have, and I think some of the academy staff shared, is that he's a little slow on the turn or in tight spaces if the play quickens around him, possibly because of his build. He has a couple of brothers in non league football who are older and share the same issue to a greater extent (hence why they're down there) but he's done well in challenging himself to improve there, and will continue to do so in the men's game. It's not a problem to have a flaw, it's about adjusting to it and making sure it doesn't expose your team, and he's a bright kid who gets it and wants to play at the top.
I think he'll do well. Fireworks off the bat might not happen as he has no pro experience but he showed in pre-season that he has the traits to adapt and thrive, so over a 46-game season there's a good chance he'll become a big player for you. If nothing else, his mentality will win fans over very quickly.
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He reminds me a bit of Jimmy Bullard, creator, character, free kick taker, finisher, quick feet, ping a pass.
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Scoham said:I messaged the Chelsea FM researcher who’s very knowledgeable of their youth sides and watches them regularly. Below is his view of Gallagher which sounds very positive for us. It’ll be interesting to see how Bowyer uses him, though that’ll depend on who we bring in (or not). On the weakness he’s picked out I’m sure that’s something Bowyer will help him deal with and improve on.
I really like him and was singing his praises for a while before he started to kick on and gain wider recognition.
He used to be a wide player but has settled down into central areas (partially because he had injuries, but also because of his build and his attributes), and can play any sort of midfield role you want. Started out as a bit of a deep defensive type, breaking up play, getting stuck in physically, that sort of thing, but demonstrated that he has a lot more about him too. Good, purposeful passing (something I think separates tiers of talent at youth level; certain players knock it around to look pretty, then some like Con will hit it with a punch and a reason and makes sure it gets to where it needs to be), and he also has a really good engine. Over the last year he added goals to his game, a good finisher late around the box, good off free kicks, and is a credible box to box type now.
Jody Morris was always a big fan, mostly due to his character and leadership, as you'd always get full commitment from him and he wouldn't bullshit his way through things. Leaned on him a lot and was rewarded. The biggest concern I have, and I think some of the academy staff shared, is that he's a little slow on the turn or in tight spaces if the play quickens around him, possibly because of his build. He has a couple of brothers in non league football who are older and share the same issue to a greater extent (hence why they're down there) but he's done well in challenging himself to improve there, and will continue to do so in the men's game. It's not a problem to have a flaw, it's about adjusting to it and making sure it doesn't expose your team, and he's a bright kid who gets it and wants to play at the top.
I think he'll do well. Fireworks off the bat might not happen as he has no pro experience but he showed in pre-season that he has the traits to adapt and thrive, so over a 46-game season there's a good chance he'll become a big player for you. If nothing else, his mentality will win fans over very quickly.
Nice write-up. Sounds a bit like a rich man's George Lapslie. The ability to play a wider role and get up and down the pitch should, in theory, make him ideal to play one side or the other of Bowyer's preferred diamond. Those players are asked to cover a lot of ground and do multiple jobs so you need players with stamina and versatility to play there.From his youtube compilation, it looks like he's a decent free-kick taker too and we haven't really had a shooting threat from set-pieces since Holmes left so that is a bonus.2 -
We all agree Connor Gallagher's magic.0
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Are you comparing hairstyles?Exiled_Addick said:Scoham said:I messaged the Chelsea FM researcher who’s very knowledgeable of their youth sides and watches them regularly. Below is his view of Gallagher which sounds very positive for us. It’ll be interesting to see how Bowyer uses him, though that’ll depend on who we bring in (or not). On the weakness he’s picked out I’m sure that’s something Bowyer will help him deal with and improve on.I really like him and was singing his praises for a while before he started to kick on and gain wider recognition.
He used to be a wide player but has settled down into central areas (partially because he had injuries, but also because of his build and his attributes), and can play any sort of midfield role you want. Started out as a bit of a deep defensive type, breaking up play, getting stuck in physically, that sort of thing, but demonstrated that he has a lot more about him too. Good, purposeful passing (something I think separates tiers of talent at youth level; certain players knock it around to look pretty, then some like Con will hit it with a punch and a reason and makes sure it gets to where it needs to be), and he also has a really good engine. Over the last year he added goals to his game, a good finisher late around the box, good off free kicks, and is a credible box to box type now.
Jody Morris was always a big fan, mostly due to his character and leadership, as you'd always get full commitment from him and he wouldn't bullshit his way through things. Leaned on him a lot and was rewarded. The biggest concern I have, and I think some of the academy staff shared, is that he's a little slow on the turn or in tight spaces if the play quickens around him, possibly because of his build. He has a couple of brothers in non league football who are older and share the same issue to a greater extent (hence why they're down there) but he's done well in challenging himself to improve there, and will continue to do so in the men's game. It's not a problem to have a flaw, it's about adjusting to it and making sure it doesn't expose your team, and he's a bright kid who gets it and wants to play at the top.
I think he'll do well. Fireworks off the bat might not happen as he has no pro experience but he showed in pre-season that he has the traits to adapt and thrive, so over a 46-game season there's a good chance he'll become a big player for you. If nothing else, his mentality will win fans over very quickly.
Nice write-up. Sounds a bit like a rich man's George Lapslie. The ability to play a wider role and get up and down the pitch should, in theory, make him ideal to play one side or the other of Bowyer's preferred diamond. Those players are asked to cover a lot of ground and do multiple jobs so you need players with stamina and versatility to play there.From his youtube compilation, it looks like he's a decent free-kick taker too and we haven't really had a shooting threat from set-pieces since Holmes left so that is a bonus.0 -
I should imagine the work Bow did last season with Cullen and Bielik helps ease a clubs decision to lend us their young stars. Especially when they are returned with an extra zero or two attached to their value.3
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Covered End said:We all agree Connor Gallagher's magic.We all agree,Connor Gallagher is magic.He came from Chelsea,Down to the Valley,And we think he's fucking fantastic.orAnd he's got your defence in a panic.orAnd loves it cos our fans ain't plastic.
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@fi@FishCostaFortune yes that was my point.FishCostaFortune said:
People will probably not agree with you, but I do get your point. I would say Gallagher is definitely more of a risk then say Cullen at least. I am sure there has been many highly rated 'wonderkids' or have gone out on loan and not performed or never reached their potential.Valley11 said:Think we should remember he's never played senior football and is only 19.
This isn't quite the same as signing Cullen and Bielik last year, who had both played senior football and were coming to us to play in the 3rd division.
LB and SG are not going to get it right every time, however even with their current financial restraints, they seem to have a very clear idea and process of the sort of player they want, and the style they want to play - which I think can only be a good thing.
What I’m saying is we should be patient with him and not expect Bielik.....yet
I hope we get other midfielders in so responsibility doesn’t lay solely at his door.
The Chelsea FM report is really encouraging.
Good luck to him.0 -
and a big thanks to Magic Frank Lampard, Lee Bowyer's near contemporary as a player0
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Wasn’t he on your squad that won the U17 World Cup?0
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Not sure about on the squad but he was IN the squad.NapaAddick said:Wasn’t he on your squad that won the U17 World Cup?2 -
Hope he does well.0
