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England Cricket Team Summer 2019 -ICC World Cup and Ashes etc
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So today's the day.
Come on England please put my pessimism to bed and give the sandpaper cheats a bloody good hiding.1 -
So do you still think the selectors are showing weak leadership? Or would you agree with me that, whether the decisions are right or wrong, they're demonstrating the polar opposite of weak leadership?Cafc43v3r said:
I love the fact you can be arsed to go on a number of diffrent threads and intentionally twist peoples words in the pursuit of a few lols. Takes trolling to a whole new level and you actually must invest the best part of a working week doing so.Chizz said:
I don't agree that telling the captain he has to bat in an un-preferred position, telling a player who is determined to keep wicket that he's not going to and not selecting England's World Cup winning strike bowler that he's not playing is "weak leadership". You might not agree with those decisions; but making them is far from weak.Cafc43v3r said:
Another "committee" choice where none of them agree and end with a rubbish compromise that doesn't solve anything.Lincsaddick said:according to the BBC, Buttler is keeping wicket, batting at 5 with Bairstow at 7 .. surely not
It's getting beyond a joke, if it's true, but wouldn't supprise me in the slightest. Weak leadership.
Root batting at 3 is the right thing, but just swapping him with Denly isn't the answer, it's a compromise.
Picking a specialist batsman at 7 behind an batting all rounder that is worth his place in the team as a bowler but is so out of form with the bat he looks like a tail ender is a compromise. Pushing Buttler up the order and giving him the gloves is a compromise.
Archer isn't fit, if he is would you leave out England's best new ball bowler in the world cup or either of England's leading 2 wicket takers?
The first 2 are weak leadership. The last one is if you think he is fit then again its weak, just say he isn't picked.
Edit: I know Ali is down to bat at 8 but my point about Bairstow is still valid.0 -
There no "joke" at all. It's just amazing that we have found ourselves in a position where we have to choose between two bowlers who would be automatic picks for any other side in the world.soapboxsam said:
On this occasion I don't see the joke ?Chizz said:
Are you suggesting it was a straight choice between Archer and Anderson? If so... Blimeysoapboxsam said:
They know that Archer isn't 100% fit, and with Anderson not a 100% they went for Jimmy instead of the debutant. The last seamer spot had to be between the two recently injured pair.The_President said:
I think that the selectors are not sure that Archer is 100 per cent fit - therefore the best option is let him recover for another 10 days and get him fully fired up for the next 4 games.Lincsaddick said:Archer needs to be selected if he is fit .. the other quicks, as good as they are, will not be able to put the fear of god into the sandpaper boys .. would like to see them reduced to sawdust
Broad and Woakes are fit,
Hopefully Stokes is fit to bowl as many overs as needed. The last seamer choice was between Archer and Anderson, the
injured bowlers who I said couldn't both be picked last week as One breaking down in a test is careless, two would be incompetent.
It's a glorious position to be in.1 -
I have a sneaky feeling that , despite the rumours and misinformstion, both Archer and Anderson are 100% fit. And that the reason they've gone with Anderson is that they've produced a pitch that suits him perfectly: low, slow bounce, swinging conditions, a green top, like the last Ashes match at Edgbaston. And they've done that to counter Australia's quicks.
Setting up a pitch to suit, say, Archer would work perfectly to suit Starc, Cummins, Pattinson et al. So they've gone in the more traditional, "English" route. Partly to suit Anderson, partly to dissuade the Aussies from using a fast-growing barrage and partly to avoid the types of conditions that suit players like Warner and Smith.
Archer will play in the series. And when he does, it will be set up for him.0 -
Well, we've heard the first BOOOO of the series...

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We are supposed to be giving him the silent treatment.
Boo the shit out of Bancroft and Smith. Completely ignore Warner. Don't give him any fuel.1 -
According to Cricinfo Starc has been dropped.0
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They are saying Warner,Bancroft,Khawaja,Smith,Marsh or Head,Wade,Paine,Cummins,Lyon,Pattinson,Hazlewood.
Batting looks a bit weak to me with Wade at 6.
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Reports online saying Starc and Hazlewood both not playing and Siddle will start instead?The_President said:They are saying Warner,Bancroft,Khawaja,Smith,Marsh or Head,Wade,Paine,Cummins,Lyon,Pattinson,Hazlewood.
Batting looks a bit weak to me with Wade at 6.
Not confirmed yet though.1 -
An amazing call to not play both Starc and Hazlewood.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Reports online saying Starc and Hazlewood both not playing and Siddle will start instead?The_President said:They are saying Warner,Bancroft,Khawaja,Smith,Marsh or Head,Wade,Paine,Cummins,Lyon,Pattinson,Hazlewood.
Batting looks a bit weak to me with Wade at 6.
Not confirmed yet though.
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Australia win the toss and bat0
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Wade is averaging over 60 this year.The_President said:They are saying Warner,Bancroft,Khawaja,Smith,Marsh or Head,Wade,Paine,Cummins,Lyon,Pattinson,Hazlewood.
Batting looks a bit weak to me with Wade at 6.0 -
what time is luncheon taken please?0
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Oz effectively playing with 4 bowlers and no all-rounder.0
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Usually 1.00pm I believe. But when we have them 9 down at that time I believe we will be offered an extra 30 mins to get the final wicket.MrOneLung said:what time is luncheon taken please?2 -
And 2 keepers, it seems to be fashionable these days!The_President said:Oz effectively playing with 4 bowlers and no all-rounder.0 -
great idea singing jerusalem instead of god save the queen. Goosebumps every time i hear it.4
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It's all very well wearing numbers (and I am a traditionalist in this regard) but isn't the point of them lost when players choose to wear jumpers over them?0
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Was that out?0
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And we didn't review it?0
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What’s the point of having Bairstow behind the stumps if you don’t trust him.0
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Out of interest, how old is Anderson/Broad now? How many years have they got in the test squad? Started off solid
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Ridiculous, Warner our first ball. Keeper and bowler should have equal voice with the skipper on reviewing0
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FFS two wrongs don't make a right Broad!!!!0
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Looks a bit high...0
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Ffs root0
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What sort of review was that0
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Anderson is 37 and Broad 33. In English type conditions they probably have a couple of years left but on fast bouncy tracks not that long.johnnybev1987 said:Out of interest, how old is Anderson/Broad now? How many years have they got in the test squad? Started off solid1 -
That's better Broad!0
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