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palarsehater said:i understand the example used of the bus but that is 1 homophobic attack in recent times, there are probably more racial attacks or teen stabbings ( which are pretty much on a daily basis ) lets not pretend that this is russia where lgbt people have to hide away - it doesn't bother me i do not approve of 2 fellas or 2 women hands all over each other kissing and whatever else in public - but that is the same for a straight couple keep it indoors.
what i do not understand is most people my age group ( 28 ) would have no issue towards gay people but why does it have to be labelled pride day etc, if we are all meant to be inclusive why do people have to be labelled? and signs about allah is a queer. jesus was gay as much as you have a right to say what you want that is quite offensive to devout followers of religion, people need to realise that there are countries in this world where its punishable by death to be gay - maybe we should concentrate on that? these are the same countries that also have quite backwards views to a lot of things.5 -
Leroy Ambrose said:johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
I don't just mean annoying, the whole issue was more if he is lieing day to day you cant really trust them. What I mean is the 'annoying' part was the fact it was becoming pretty common knowledge but he would continue to make up stories and flat deny anything linked. I totally understand its not going to be easy and we didn't know the background why (nor should we) but given his personality he was quite difficult sometimes, which I believe is down to the whole stress he has put himself under to constantly lie day in day out.
I have probably not worded this very well , or put it across very well.
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Chizz said:Leroy Ambrose said:johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
Chizz said:Leroy Ambrose said:johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
I didn't say they tried to out the person publicly, they discussed it in a private meeting and he merely just nodded and didn't say anything. They were doing this more thinking of them, not to get them to 'come out' but more to support them and as Chinese whispers and people find out, it would be less awkward. It had no desired effect and he just one day came in on his own accord and changed what he would reference his partner and nothing more was said of it.
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hoof_it_up_to_benty said:se9addick said:palarsehater said:wouldnt be suprised if it is a fringe player as to be starting every match its going to be constant chants of xxxxx takes it up the ass etc
james mclean ( an average squad player )i would lay good money on that every single ground last season at least 1 song about the ira were sung - happy to be proved wrong.1 -
BR7_addick said:ValleyGary said:palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.4
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Sweet, salty or toffee?3
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JiMMy 85 said:palarsehater said:why does it have to be labelled pride day etc, if we are all meant to be inclusive why do people have to be labelled?palarsehater said:ill freely admit it have joined in with songs about darren ambrose and brighton - dont class myself as homophobic
I don't like the word ‘homophobic’ as it implies fear. I doubt very much you fear or hate gay people. But you certainly sound as though you don’t have a grasp of what they have to go through, or how damaging your light-hearted chanting can be.
its like saying we want to be like everyone else but its important i am also labelled and i am different to everyone else.
works similarly with vegans just don't eat meat/animal products and shut your gob instead of preaching to everyone how great you are and trying to bore others with your choices1 -
Big_Bad_World said:Sweet, salty or toffee?1
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palarsehater said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:se9addick said:palarsehater said:wouldnt be suprised if it is a fringe player as to be starting every match its going to be constant chants of xxxxx takes it up the ass etc
james mclean ( an average squad player )i would lay good money on that every single ground last season at least 1 song about the ira were sung - happy to be proved wrong.
Anyway catch up soon on the next free Tommy march mate!2 -
Uboat said:Big_Bad_World said:Sweet, salty or toffee?2
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BR7_addick said:palarsehater said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:se9addick said:palarsehater said:wouldnt be suprised if it is a fringe player as to be starting every match its going to be constant chants of xxxxx takes it up the ass etc
james mclean ( an average squad player )i would lay good money on that every single ground last season at least 1 song about the ira were sung - happy to be proved wrong.
Anyway catch up soon on the next free Tommy march mate!
EDIT THAT WAS A JOKE me and @BR7_addick are too busy dragging our knuckles and belonging down at millwall for that sort of thing.1 -
palarsehater said:JiMMy 85 said:palarsehater said:why does it have to be labelled pride day etc, if we are all meant to be inclusive why do people have to be labelled?palarsehater said:ill freely admit it have joined in with songs about darren ambrose and brighton - dont class myself as homophobic
I don't like the word ‘homophobic’ as it implies fear. I doubt very much you fear or hate gay people. But you certainly sound as though you don’t have a grasp of what they have to go through, or how damaging your light-hearted chanting can be.
its like saying we want to be like everyone else but its important i am also labelled and i am different to everyone else.
works similarly with vegans just don't eat meat/animal products and shut your gob instead of preaching to everyone how great you are and trying to bore others with your choices5 -
New balls please2
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Never seen someone so rattled on a thread than hoofy3
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palarsehater said:BR7_addick said:palarsehater said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:se9addick said:palarsehater said:wouldnt be suprised if it is a fringe player as to be starting every match its going to be constant chants of xxxxx takes it up the ass etc
james mclean ( an average squad player )i would lay good money on that every single ground last season at least 1 song about the ira were sung - happy to be proved wrong.
Anyway catch up soon on the next free Tommy march mate!
EDIT THAT WAS A JOKE me and @BR7_addick are too busy dragging our knuckles and belonging down at millwall for that sort of thing.1 -
Covered End said:New balls please0
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Stu_of_Kunming said:palarsehater said:JiMMy 85 said:palarsehater said:why does it have to be labelled pride day etc, if we are all meant to be inclusive why do people have to be labelled?palarsehater said:ill freely admit it have joined in with songs about darren ambrose and brighton - dont class myself as homophobic
I don't like the word ‘homophobic’ as it implies fear. I doubt very much you fear or hate gay people. But you certainly sound as though you don’t have a grasp of what they have to go through, or how damaging your light-hearted chanting can be.
its like saying we want to be like everyone else but its important i am also labelled and i am different to everyone else.
works similarly with vegans just don't eat meat/animal products and shut your gob instead of preaching to everyone how great you are and trying to bore others with your choices
so yeah when millions are spent on turning road crossings into multi coloured ones and police officers walking behind a parade consisting of blokes in bikini bottoms and high heels - yes the money could be spent better.0 -
palarsehater said:Stu_of_Kunming said:palarsehater said:JiMMy 85 said:palarsehater said:why does it have to be labelled pride day etc, if we are all meant to be inclusive why do people have to be labelled?palarsehater said:ill freely admit it have joined in with songs about darren ambrose and brighton - dont class myself as homophobic
I don't like the word ‘homophobic’ as it implies fear. I doubt very much you fear or hate gay people. But you certainly sound as though you don’t have a grasp of what they have to go through, or how damaging your light-hearted chanting can be.
its like saying we want to be like everyone else but its important i am also labelled and i am different to everyone else.
works similarly with vegans just don't eat meat/animal products and shut your gob instead of preaching to everyone how great you are and trying to bore others with your choices
so yeah when millions are spent on turning road crossings into multi coloured ones and police officers walking behind a parade consisting of blokes in bikini bottoms and high heels - yes the money could be spent better.
It's also a global problem, why not be proud The UK is leading the way?
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hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Dave2l said:Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
It is his private business.
If he's doing it for the greater good and to remind people that they shouldn't feel ashamed about who and what they are....then that's great.
No one actually needs to know though.
Just because you're a professional footballer....it doesn't mean everyone has to know everything about you.
When I go charlton....I enjoy the game, I watch it, I go home. Normal services resumed.
I return to my world.
I don't think...
"I wonder what Chris Solly is doing ....right now?
I wonder about the sexuality of Chris Solly.
It is my business"
I agree with what you say and I understand it.
I just hope that if he does get any abuse....from anyone.
He gets right on it....either by just telling them to f*ck off....or reporting it.
Unfortunately...due to the wankers of this world...he is going to be forced to have to stand up for himself a bit, until they back off.0 -
palarsehater said:Stu_of_Kunming said:palarsehater said:JiMMy 85 said:palarsehater said:why does it have to be labelled pride day etc, if we are all meant to be inclusive why do people have to be labelled?palarsehater said:ill freely admit it have joined in with songs about darren ambrose and brighton - dont class myself as homophobic
I don't like the word ‘homophobic’ as it implies fear. I doubt very much you fear or hate gay people. But you certainly sound as though you don’t have a grasp of what they have to go through, or how damaging your light-hearted chanting can be.
its like saying we want to be like everyone else but its important i am also labelled and i am different to everyone else.
works similarly with vegans just don't eat meat/animal products and shut your gob instead of preaching to everyone how great you are and trying to bore others with your choices
so yeah when millions are spent on turning road crossings into multi coloured ones and police officers walking behind a parade consisting of blokes in bikini bottoms and high heels - yes the money could be spent better.
You yourself have already mentioned the intolerance in major religions (Christians and Muslims) while attacks are on the increase.
The majority of people in the UK would say they don't have an issue but that still leaves enough to make it widespread.1 - Sponsored links:
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ValleyGary said:Never seen someone so rattled on a thread than hoofyBR7_addick said:palarsehater said:BR7_addick said:palarsehater said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:se9addick said:palarsehater said:wouldnt be suprised if it is a fringe player as to be starting every match its going to be constant chants of xxxxx takes it up the ass etc
james mclean ( an average squad player )i would lay good money on that every single ground last season at least 1 song about the ira were sung - happy to be proved wrong.
Anyway catch up soon on the next free Tommy march mate!
EDIT THAT WAS A JOKE me and @BR7_addick are too busy dragging our knuckles and belonging down at millwall for that sort of thing.0 -
hoof_it_up_to_benty said:ValleyGary said:palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:se9addick said:palarsehater said:wouldnt be suprised if it is a fringe player as to be starting every match its going to be constant chants of xxxxx takes it up the ass etchoof_it_up_to_benty said:BR7_addick said:ValleyGary said:palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Rothko said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:BR7_addick said:ValleyGary said:palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.1
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Stu_of_Kunming said:palarsehater said:Stu_of_Kunming said:palarsehater said:JiMMy 85 said:palarsehater said:why does it have to be labelled pride day etc, if we are all meant to be inclusive why do people have to be labelled?palarsehater said:ill freely admit it have joined in with songs about darren ambrose and brighton - dont class myself as homophobic
I don't like the word ‘homophobic’ as it implies fear. I doubt very much you fear or hate gay people. But you certainly sound as though you don’t have a grasp of what they have to go through, or how damaging your light-hearted chanting can be.
its like saying we want to be like everyone else but its important i am also labelled and i am different to everyone else.
works similarly with vegans just don't eat meat/animal products and shut your gob instead of preaching to everyone how great you are and trying to bore others with your choices
so yeah when millions are spent on turning road crossings into multi coloured ones and police officers walking behind a parade consisting of blokes in bikini bottoms and high heels - yes the money could be spent better.
It's also a global problem, why not be proud The UK is leading the way?
there is not a widespread problem - happy to be proved wrong.
its similar to the climate protesters lets attack london because if we do it in moscow or the states we would likely get shot.
https://www.stonewall.org.uk/system/files/lgbt_in_britain_hate_crime.pdf
there is a report there but it is all in percentages and doesn't give a black and white figure of the amount of cases.0 -
Part of me wants it to be a player at a Midlands club. Whichever one is closest to Parkfield community school. The cherry on the cake would be if the player was the kids' favourite.13
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ValleyGary said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:ValleyGary said:palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:se9addick said:palarsehater said:wouldnt be suprised if it is a fringe player as to be starting every match its going to be constant chants of xxxxx takes it up the ass etchoof_it_up_to_benty said:BR7_addick said:ValleyGary said:palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Rothko said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:BR7_addick said:ValleyGary said:palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.0
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I'm not sure pride is 'attacking' London, the pride activities here certainly didn't seem like an attack.
As for statistics, I'll have to get back to you when I have access to google, in the morning, sadly I can't agree that there isn't a problem with attacks in The Uk.
Athough even if there isn't a problem, shouldnt we be proud that our country is leading the fight for equal rights?0 -
ValleyGary said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:ValleyGary said:palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:se9addick said:palarsehater said:wouldnt be suprised if it is a fringe player as to be starting every match its going to be constant chants of xxxxx takes it up the ass etchoof_it_up_to_benty said:BR7_addick said:ValleyGary said:palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Rothko said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:BR7_addick said:ValleyGary said:palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.
A couple of odds on joint favourites are nowhere as yet.
Mind, it's 4 miles so we've barely started :-)0 -
3 comments within 5 mins, I’m having them.0
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Stu_of_Kunming said:I'm not sure pride is 'attacking' London, the pride activities here certainly didn't seem like an attack.
As for statistics, I'll have to get back to you when I have access to google, in the morning, sadly I can't agree that there isn't a problem with attacks in The Uk.
Athough even if there isn't a problem, shouldnt we be proud that our country is leading the fight for equal rights?
if the player was a starting member of a team - i am 100% sure that every game he would get some sort of abuse because of his sexuality - that does not mean as a nation we are a homophobic one - its football crowd doing what football crowds do - is it acceptable - no its not0 -
ValleyGary said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:ValleyGary said:palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:se9addick said:palarsehater said:wouldnt be suprised if it is a fringe player as to be starting every match its going to be constant chants of xxxxx takes it up the ass etchoof_it_up_to_benty said:BR7_addick said:ValleyGary said:palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Rothko said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:BR7_addick said:ValleyGary said:palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.0