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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)
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Isn't it the case that we won't receive a development fee if he moves outside England?Covered End said:Aribo to Rangers £300K development fee for Charlton. (Rumour).
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Because without being too harsh most of the things you post from what I've seen (don't mind being corrected) rarely come to fruition and the way you post any information you hear of is very cryptic and vague. I doubt we are offering such pitiful contracts because it would be a back to back relegation on the cards and Roland doesn't want that cause then he certainly won't get his money back.Redhenry said:
Why do u highly doubt?Braziliance said:I highly doubt we are offering players wages in ranges of 2.5/5k.
It is likely though that Bauer will have an offer of 750k to a million a year or somewhere thereabouts from other rival clubs. That's the problem. I've accepted he has gone tbh, same with Aribo now. It's Bowyer I have a bit of hope with still
Dreadful owner yes but he's still a business man and he knows it's bad business to go back down again. Unless he really does just hate this club and fans and wants that which again I doubt.1 -
Gallen said we'd receive a lesser fee. So sounds about right if it happens.Gillis said:
Isn't it the case that we won't receive a development fee if he moves outside England?Covered End said:Aribo to Rangers £300K development fee for Charlton. (Rumour).2 -
I don't think there are many on here with a track record that can rival @Redhenry when it comes to being right or breaking news first.Braziliance said:
Because without being too harsh most of the things you post from what I've seen (don't mind being corrected) rarely come to fruition and the way you post any information you hear of is very cryptic and vague. I doubt we are offering such pitiful contracts because it would be a back to back relegation on the cards and Roland doesn't want that cause then he certainly won't get his money back.Redhenry said:
Why do u highly doubt?Braziliance said:I highly doubt we are offering players wages in ranges of 2.5/5k.
It is likely though that Bauer will have an offer of 750k to a million a year or somewhere thereabouts from other rival clubs. That's the problem. I've accepted he has gone tbh, same with Aribo now. It's Bowyer I have a bit of hope with still
Dreadful owner yes but he's still a business man and he knows it's bad business to go back down again. Unless he really does just hate this club and fans and wants that which again I doubt.
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A prime example on the Lee Bowyer thread.
Something along the lines of 'pwr, Bowyer no closer to signing'.
That is so cryptic and click bait like. It's like you are saying something anyone on this forum could say to be asked further questions. No source, no reasoning as to why and very vague.
It's like me just saying now 'I heard Bauer isn't getting any closer'. I just don't see the point unless you expand on why, each to their own though2 -
Competition isn't exactly hard though is it? How often does anyone get anything solid on here. I remember that Athletico Addick bloke had people on strings for months on a summer transfer thread and then vanished when none of the things he said happened.Gillis said:
I don't think there are many on here with a track record that can rival @Redhenry when it comes to being right or breaking news first.Braziliance said:
Because without being too harsh most of the things you post from what I've seen (don't mind being corrected) rarely come to fruition and the way you post any information you hear of is very cryptic and vague. I doubt we are offering such pitiful contracts because it would be a back to back relegation on the cards and Roland doesn't want that cause then he certainly won't get his money back.Redhenry said:
Why do u highly doubt?Braziliance said:I highly doubt we are offering players wages in ranges of 2.5/5k.
It is likely though that Bauer will have an offer of 750k to a million a year or somewhere thereabouts from other rival clubs. That's the problem. I've accepted he has gone tbh, same with Aribo now. It's Bowyer I have a bit of hope with still
Dreadful owner yes but he's still a business man and he knows it's bad business to go back down again. Unless he really does just hate this club and fans and wants that which again I doubt.
Can only go by what I've seen, just not a fan of posts that will always lead to further questions, no different from twitter accounts that post 'ex person says ???' with a click bait picture so you have to go on their site to find out.3 -
Not really.Braziliance said:A prime example on the Lee Bowyer thread.
Something along the lines of 'pwr, Bowyer no closer to signing'.
That is so cryptic and click bait like. It's like you are saying something anyone on this forum could say to be asked further questions. No source, no reasoning as to why and very vague.
It's like me just saying now 'I heard Bauer isn't getting any closer'. I just don't see the point unless you expand on why, each to their own though
We’ve been told that there is now a negotiation going on. Redhenry was saying that the negotiation hasn’t moved anything forward.
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I am sorry I don't understand your post, big difference in reference to what?ShootersHillGuru said:
Not really.Braziliance said:A prime example on the Lee Bowyer thread.
Something along the lines of 'pwr, Bowyer no closer to signing'.
That is so cryptic and click bait like. It's like you are saying something anyone on this forum could say to be asked further questions. No source, no reasoning as to why and very vague.
It's like me just saying now 'I heard Bauer isn't getting any closer'. I just don't see the point unless you expand on why, each to their own though
We’ve been told that there is now a negotiation going on. Redhenry was saying that the negotiation hasn’t moved anything forward.
Big difference.
If you mean there is a big difference in a Twitter account posting a click bait link and someone writing a vague post on here there isn't (just swap site hits for likes)
If you mean that RedHenry confirmed the talks hadn't done much as he said, the article confirming Bowyer should sign up next week was after he said the talks haven't progressed.
If you mean something else I am not following you0 -
Just trying to throw some light on what's going on at the club. I'm not guessing it's what i am hearing from people who are closer to it than most of us. If a takeover doesn't go through, RD is offering players up to 2.5 a week, they managed get more for Bauer (5) because they wanted him to stay.
I think the only chance we have is if Bowyer demands a bigger budget before he signs a new contract13 -
I realise that this isn’t football manager but surely there will be a wage budget for the management team to spend as they deem fit? I’m assuming that bowyer could blow all his budget on one player or sign as many frees and loans that the budget allows rather than a salary cap being in place?Redhenry said:Not sure what he was on. Heard we are only offering 2.5 to freebies1 - Sponsored links:
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I don't know. I know for sure we have offered 2.5 a week to at least two player who are out of contract.1
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Keep posting Redhenry , I for one appreciate any of your updates !28
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Ok that's fair enough then.Redhenry said:Just trying to throw some light on what's going on at the club. I'm not guessing it's what i am hearing from people who are closer to it than most of us. If a takeover doesn't go through, RD is offering players up to 2.5 a week, they managed get more for Bauer (5) because they wanted him to stay.
I think the only chance we have is if Bowyer demands a bigger budget before he signs a new contract
I still think it's bonkers losing Bauer, Aribo, Bowyer and JFC for free, makes the club lose at least 5 million in value and making it even harder to sell, if that's what you've heard though then that's what you have heard0 -
Steve Gallen has confirmed that he and Lee don't get the final say as Thomas Driesen still has to give the OK.Todds_right_hook said:
I realise that this isn’t football manager but surely there will be a wage budget for the management team to spend as they deem fit? I’m assuming that bowyer could blow all his budget on one player or sign as many frees and loans that the budget allows rather than a salary cap being in place?Redhenry said:Not sure what he was on. Heard we are only offering 2.5 to freebies
Of course, there will be a budget but Duchatelet has already told us it will be one of, if not the, lowest in the division.0 -
If we offered £2500 to Aribo, Bauer, Williams or JFK, we should be ashamed of ourselves.3
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The 2.5 was to players at other clubs, we offered Bauer 5harveys_gardener said:If we offered £2500 to Aribo, Bauer, Williams or JFK, we should be ashamed of ourselves.0 -
Thanks @Horsfield9. I can understand that some fans don't want to hear negative news.Horsfield9 said:Keep posting Redhenry , I for one appreciate any of your updates !4 -
Well I prefer any news to no news , keep it up mate !Redhenry said:
Thanks @Horsfield9. I can understand that some fans don't want to hear negative news.Horsfield9 said:Keep posting Redhenry , I for one appreciate any of your updates !9 -
To give a bit of context, Charlton’s experienced first-team players were getting £5k a week in 2013 - a few like Kermorgant were getting more.
Given that Sarr and Bauer both signed in 2015 and it’s fairly well known that Sarr was/is on more than £5k it’s unlikely Bauer would entertain that amount in the Championship.
I doubt if there are many experienced players in the Championship on £2.5k.
Charlton’s turnover is unlikely to go much beyond £15m in the Championship, including the uplift for tickets. We will need to run a significant operating loss to survive.1 -
We are also running out of kids to promote. Morgan to be huge this year but little in U23s to look forward to. Need U18s like Bows, Lookman and Konch to come from nowhere.1
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So we're currently offering lower wages than Salford. Excellent.Redhenry said:Just trying to throw some light on what's going on at the club. I'm not guessing it's what i am hearing from people who are closer to it than most of us. If a takeover doesn't go through, RD is offering players up to 2.5 a week, they managed get more for Bauer (5) because they wanted him to stay.
I think the only chance we have is if Bowyer demands a bigger budget before he signs a new contract1 -
Here’s one for you then.Braziliance said:
Competition isn't exactly hard though is it? How often does anyone get anything solid on here. I remember that Athletico Addick bloke had people on strings for months on a summer transfer thread and then vanished when none of the things he said happened.Gillis said:
I don't think there are many on here with a track record that can rival @Redhenry when it comes to being right or breaking news first.Braziliance said:
Because without being too harsh most of the things you post from what I've seen (don't mind being corrected) rarely come to fruition and the way you post any information you hear of is very cryptic and vague. I doubt we are offering such pitiful contracts because it would be a back to back relegation on the cards and Roland doesn't want that cause then he certainly won't get his money back.Redhenry said:
Why do u highly doubt?Braziliance said:I highly doubt we are offering players wages in ranges of 2.5/5k.
It is likely though that Bauer will have an offer of 750k to a million a year or somewhere thereabouts from other rival clubs. That's the problem. I've accepted he has gone tbh, same with Aribo now. It's Bowyer I have a bit of hope with still
Dreadful owner yes but he's still a business man and he knows it's bad business to go back down again. Unless he really does just hate this club and fans and wants that which again I doubt.
Can only go by what I've seen, just not a fan of posts that will always lead to further questions, no different from twitter accounts that post 'ex person says ???' with a click bait picture so you have to go on their site to find out.
Williams was on hols in Marbs last week
Wants to sign for us and would take a
small pay cut - but this is still too high for us.
Picked up a knock at Gills and played in pain for the rest of the season.
Shame we prob can’t afford him.3 -
You must have me muddled up with somebody elseBraziliance said:
Because without being too harsh most of the things you post from what I've seen (don't mind being corrected) rarely come to fruition and the way you post any information you hear of is very cryptic and vague. I doubt we are offering such pitiful contracts because it would be a back to back relegation on the cards and Roland doesn't want that cause then he certainly won't get his money back.Redhenry said:
Why do u highly doubt?Braziliance said:I highly doubt we are offering players wages in ranges of 2.5/5k.
It is likely though that Bauer will have an offer of 750k to a million a year or somewhere thereabouts from other rival clubs. That's the problem. I've accepted he has gone tbh, same with Aribo now. It's Bowyer I have a bit of hope with still
Dreadful owner yes but he's still a business man and he knows it's bad business to go back down again. Unless he really does just hate this club and fans and wants that which again I doubt.0 -
That would have been the 4th lowest turnover in the Championship in 2017-18. Since most clubs lose significant money down here and many the max, new owners will still have an enormous uphill climb just to be mid-table over the long term.Airman Brown said:To give a bit of context, Charlton’s experienced first-team players were getting £5k a week in 2013 - a few like Kermorgant were getting more.
Given that Sarr and Bauer both signed in 2015 and it’s fairly well known that Sarr was/is on more than £5k it’s unlikely Bauer would entertain that amount in the Championship.
I doubt if there are many experienced players in the Championship on £2.5k.
Charlton’s turnover is unlikely to go much beyond £15m in the Championship, including the uplift for tickets. We will need to run a significant operating loss to survive.0 -
There is no mix up on my end. Like I said I can't remember one thing you said that has come to life unless it's already been well established or whispered around before. Your posts are cryptic most of the time. I'm not digging you out, I'm challenging your posts/intel, that's what this forum is for, discussions.Redhenry said:
You must have me muddled up with somebody elseBraziliance said:
Because without being too harsh most of the things you post from what I've seen (don't mind being corrected) rarely come to fruition and the way you post any information you hear of is very cryptic and vague. I doubt we are offering such pitiful contracts because it would be a back to back relegation on the cards and Roland doesn't want that cause then he certainly won't get his money back.Redhenry said:
Why do u highly doubt?Braziliance said:I highly doubt we are offering players wages in ranges of 2.5/5k.
It is likely though that Bauer will have an offer of 750k to a million a year or somewhere thereabouts from other rival clubs. That's the problem. I've accepted he has gone tbh, same with Aribo now. It's Bowyer I have a bit of hope with still
Dreadful owner yes but he's still a business man and he knows it's bad business to go back down again. Unless he really does just hate this club and fans and wants that which again I doubt.
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Looks like Curtis Nelson set to sign for Cardiff, all over social media. One of the players I thought could replace Bauer. Shame0
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Braziliance said:Looks like Curtis Nelson set to sign for Cardiff, all over social media. One of the players I thought could replace Bauer. ShameAt the stage we are at with the manager and ownership I would have thought we'd not be bringing in any new players.Things will probably all kick off towards the end of the month, assuming the manger situation has been sorted.What a f****** mess.1
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When we are offering League One wages to players, this is what happens. Word gets around quickly and players will be told not to consider Charlton because you can get paid much more elsewhere.Braziliance said:Looks like Curtis Nelson set to sign for Cardiff, all over social media. One of the players I thought could replace Bauer. Shame2 -
we're not in a position to compete with Cardiff, they've got £70m of parachute paymentsBraziliance said:Looks like Curtis Nelson set to sign for Cardiff, all over social media. One of the players I thought could replace Bauer. Shame2 -
Can’t see us getting Lameiras or Eaves or anyone else rumoured if there is any other Championship interest in them.
We might even see some of these types of players prefer to sign for Sunderland / Ipswich / other league one contenders where they can get more money and at this rate, they’ll have a better chance of playing Championship football in 2020-21 than we do.1
