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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)
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LeedsLincsaddick said:
about Bowyer 'walking' .. this is possibly just wishful thinking, but I can't imagine him managing another club. Like Lord Llewellyn, he is Charlton management personified and no other club would fit his DNA or psychological make up. Bowyer might try managing elsewhere, it would not work out well.blackpool72 said:
If and it's still a big if Bowyer signs a new contract I fully expect Eaves to sign for Charlton along with a couple of others mentioned.NapaAddick said:I wonder what the odds are that not one single player mentioned so far in 30 pages actually gets signed?
If Bowyer walks who knows.
Sorry to mention the mob dahn the road, but neither can I imagine Neil Harris at any other club. Some people are just made for certain jobs and places. Bowyer is one of those4 -
I like your optimism. If we got Bowyer, J.J., Gallen back and somehow keep either Bauer or Aribo and then add Lameiras and Eaves, I would consider that an “A” for us. A new owner would make than an “A+.”blackpool72 said:
If and it's still a big if Bowyer signs a new contract I fully expect Eaves to sign for Charlton along with a couple of others mentioned.NapaAddick said:I wonder what the odds are that not one single player mentioned so far in 30 pages actually gets signed?
If Bowyer walks who knows.1 -
We offered Patrick 5 a week.8
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Was this less than before? I thought he earned more than that before? Wasn't Texieria on £15k pw?Redhenry said:We offered Patrick 5 a week.0 -
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Not sure what he was on. Heard we are only offering 2.5 to freebies8
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Few friends are Leeds fans. He’s not well liked at Leeds. After standing by him in the court trials, he then went off to Newcastle. Didn’t go down too well!ShootersHillGuru said:
LeedsLincsaddick said:
about Bowyer 'walking' .. this is possibly just wishful thinking, but I can't imagine him managing another club. Like Lord Llewellyn, he is Charlton management personified and no other club would fit his DNA or psychological make up. Bowyer might try managing elsewhere, it would not work out well.blackpool72 said:
If and it's still a big if Bowyer signs a new contract I fully expect Eaves to sign for Charlton along with a couple of others mentioned.NapaAddick said:I wonder what the odds are that not one single player mentioned so far in 30 pages actually gets signed?
If Bowyer walks who knows.
Sorry to mention the mob dahn the road, but neither can I imagine Neil Harris at any other club. Some people are just made for certain jobs and places. Bowyer is one of those0 -
No wonder no-one is going to sign if that’s the kind of money we’re offering. Pitiful.3
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over Bielsa's dead bodyShootersHillGuru said:
LeedsLincsaddick said:
about Bowyer 'walking' .. this is possibly just wishful thinking, but I can't imagine him managing another club. Like Lord Llewellyn, he is Charlton management personified and no other club would fit his DNA or psychological make up. Bowyer might try managing elsewhere, it would not work out well.blackpool72 said:
If and it's still a big if Bowyer signs a new contract I fully expect Eaves to sign for Charlton along with a couple of others mentioned.NapaAddick said:I wonder what the odds are that not one single player mentioned so far in 30 pages actually gets signed?
If Bowyer walks who knows.
Sorry to mention the mob dahn the road, but neither can I imagine Neil Harris at any other club. Some people are just made for certain jobs and places. Bowyer is one of those
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Especially without Bowyer and Jackson signed up.Callumcafc said:No wonder no-one is going to sign if that’s the kind of money we’re offering. Pitiful.0 -
What’s a fair wage for Bauer in this division? £8000week? More?0
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not to be too pedantic, there is no such thing as a 'fair wage' .. the cliché states .. 'you don't earn what you are worth, you earn what you can negotiate' .. I'd add .. the wage depends on what the employer can afford and/or is prepared to pay.NapaAddick said:What’s a fair wage for Bauer in this division? £8000week? More?
In the Champ there are clubs almost awash with cash from parachute payments.
To CAFC, perhaps £10 K a week is the absolute max that they would or could be prepared to pay any player. A recently relegated club might consider double that to be a starting point to keep a star player or offer to a potential signing. I am sure there are many Champ players earning a half million a year and more
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If Bauer was a contracted Championship player he would be worth £1m+. So that is £20k pw+. If we signed him on a free, he could command that wage.0
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Don't be sizeist.Lincsaddick said:
a 33 year old injury prone midget .. no thanksblackpool72 said:Jamie Ward is joining us next week.
So I am informed.1 -
I highly doubt we are offering players wages in ranges of 2.5/5k.
It is likely though that Bauer will have an offer of 750k to a million a year or somewhere thereabouts from other rival clubs. That's the problem. I've accepted he has gone tbh, same with Aribo now. It's Bowyer I have a bit of hope with still0 -
Clubs with parachute payments with all due respect will be looking to sign the best players they possibly can not just hoover up a freebie just because they can. Eg would Bauer go to Huddersfield on 10k but be happy to sit on the bench every week? I'm not so sure, i'm sure there's plenty of interest in Bauer who might be able to pay a bit more than we're offering but would it be enough for Bauer to upsticks and move or might he stay on with us and if/when the takeover happens he can knock on the new owner's door for a new juicier contract if his form commands it. I'm very sceptical we're only offering Bauer 5k a week, this is a player RD has refused to sell during our 3 years in League One which is worth £260k a year yet i'm sure RD turned down higher bids last summer?Lincsaddick said:
not to be too pedantic, there is no such thing as a 'fair wage' .. the cliché states .. 'you don't earn what you are worth, you earn what you can negotiate' .. I'd add .. the wage depends on what the employer can afford and/or is prepared to pay.NapaAddick said:What’s a fair wage for Bauer in this division? £8000week? More?
In the Champ there are clubs almost awash with cash from parachute payments.
To CAFC, perhaps £10 K a week is the absolute max that they would or could be prepared to pay any player. A recently relegated club might consider double that to be a starting point to keep a star player or offer to a potential signing. I am sure there are many Champ players earning a half million a year and more
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Banner headline in Blackburn edition of Lancashire Evening Telegraph today reads "Bauer boost for Rovers" They think its a "done deal" lets hope its like the cafc version of done deals.0
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They make Bauer sound like the coming of the Messiah.BlackburnCharlton said:Banner headline in Blackburn edition of Lancashire Evening Telegraph today reads "Bauer boost for Rovers" They think its a "done deal" lets hope its like the cafc version of done deals.
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Surely Mowbray wouldn’t sign players from “clubs like Charlton”BlackburnCharlton said:Banner headline in Blackburn edition of Lancashire Evening Telegraph today reads "Bauer boost for Rovers" They think its a "done deal" lets hope its like the cafc version of done deals.3 - Sponsored links:
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Exactly , everyone wanking off about us getting free signings , do people really believe that agents/footballers don’t know they’re worth dough and won’t price it into their contract with either a signing on fee or bigger salary over time .golfaddick said:Not always to do with a weekly wage though is it. He'll get a decent signing on fee...
bauer will need to be paid accordingly cos The Helmet didn’t get him or others nailed down to longer contracts1 -
Makes perfect sense . Of course RD would spend £500k on a free.Vincenzo said:4 -
Braziliance said:I highly doubt we are offering players wages in ranges of 2.5/5k.That means we are destined for League One. The AVERAGE wage in The Championship is £25,000/week (pic one). The median payroll in The Championship two years ago was £30 freaking million, which equates to about a mil per year per 23 players on the club, assuming the rest of the staff/academy players makes £7M, which is a stretch. This is not a good situation, new owner or no new owner.
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I doubt any new owner would takeover and then limit themselves to only paying £2.5k to £5k on average in the Championship. There'd be no point, you'd never have a chance of promotion to the Prem.NapaAddick said:Braziliance said:I highly doubt we are offering players wages in ranges of 2.5/5k.That means we are destined for League One. The AVERAGE wage in The Championship is £25,000/week (pic one). The median payroll in The Championship two years ago was £30 freaking million, which equates to about a mil per year per 23 players on the club, assuming the rest of the staff/academy players makes £7M, which is a stretch. This is not a good situation, new owner or no new owner.2 -
Yet we have an issue there, Scoham.... FFP Rules, which contrary to myth, are enforced quite-well, especially down here.Let's look at a few numbers.... according to our 2017-18 financials, CAFC had total turnover of roughly £7.3M from all sources. There is no reason to think it went up or down much in 2018-19, overall (playoffs excluded.) In VotV, it is stated that we can expect another £6-7M in money from the new league. Great. Let's say we get new owners, raise ticket prices 20% (to the Championship averages) and then increase average attendance by 60%, which to me is by no means a sure thing. That would be an increase of £1.6M in revs from match-day. Get better deals for the kit and other commercial by 100%, that adds another £1.6M. Add it all together and we have total turnover in the best reasonable scenario of.... £17million.If we then lose the max per year on top of all that and all of it goes to wages, that is £30M to spend on wages, bang-middle of the pack. It might rank even lower, now (see picture #1, below.) Given a great many clubs in The Championship lose the max FFP every year (or close to it) even if we follow-suit, we still have less to spend due to making far less revenue that most clubs in our new pond.I hate to point this out but CAFC had among the MOST valuable squads in League One, not the least, ranking 3rd as the season started by Transfermarkt, exactly where we finished (picture 2.) Suddenly, we are among the poorest clubs in our new division and even with new owners willing to lose the max, we still have quite a gap to make up to afford the best players, or even keep our own. Some clubs spend 500-1000% on wages what our whole club likely made in revenues in 2017-18. How can we compete with that?New owners will help and if they spend the max they are allowed then I think (with Bowyer) we can be a stalwart mid-level Championship club. And perhaps one year, if we can stabilize for 3-4 seasons, maybe we catch lightning in a bottle like did this year and get promoted.
League One squad values, by Transfermarkt.
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I wouldn't think into it too much, I doubt it's true.NapaAddick said:Braziliance said:I highly doubt we are offering players wages in ranges of 2.5/5k.That means we are destined for League One. The AVERAGE wage in The Championship is £25,000/week (pic one). The median payroll in The Championship two years ago was £30 freaking million, which equates to about a mil per year per 23 players on the club, assuming the rest of the staff/academy players makes £7M, which is a stretch. This is not a good situation, new owner or no new owner.
We will no doubt be offering poor money compared to the likes of Fulham and Forest etc but it's highly unlikely the contracts being stumped up are worth 130k. At a guess it will be around the 400/500k mark. If it is lower than that then Bowyer certainly won't sign an extension1 -
Why do u highly doubt?Braziliance said:I highly doubt we are offering players wages in ranges of 2.5/5k.
It is likely though that Bauer will have an offer of 750k to a million a year or somewhere thereabouts from other rival clubs. That's the problem. I've accepted he has gone tbh, same with Aribo now. It's Bowyer I have a bit of hope with still0 -
This is what we are offering. Similar budget to Rotherham. I hoping we can secure some league 1 up and coming playersRedhenry said:
Why do u highly doubt?Braziliance said:I highly doubt we are offering players wages in ranges of 2.5/5k.
It is likely though that Bauer will have an offer of 750k to a million a year or somewhere thereabouts from other rival clubs. That's the problem. I've accepted he has gone tbh, same with Aribo now. It's Bowyer I have a bit of hope with still1 -
If Bauer can get a mil per year from someone then he should grab it. Sure won't be us.
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Aribo to Rangers £300K development fee for Charlton. (Rumour).0
