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  • len90
    len90 Posts: 143
    WSS said:
    len90 said:
    Why are people betting with bookmakers? You will get a better price on an exchange. Bookies are scumbags. They will eventually mess you about. All the well known ones and most of the smaller ones have limited my stakes to pennies. I don't know how they stay in business. Ladbrokes refused £100 @ 4/1 then sent me an e-mail saying my stake limit is £1.64. They are supposed to be the biggest bookmaker in the world. Absolute joke.
    They're a business trying to make money.  Why wouldn't they take steps to stop people costing them profits?
    I haven't cost them anything. They are about £300 ahead.
  • len90
    len90 Posts: 143
    Oh_Yoni_Boy said:
    len90 said:
    Why are people betting with bookmakers? You will get a better price on an exchange. Bookies are scumbags. They will eventually mess you about. All the well known ones and most of the smaller ones have limited my stakes to pennies. I don't know how they stay in business. Ladbrokes refused £100 @ 4/1 then sent me an e-mail saying my stake limit is £1.64. They are supposed to be the biggest bookmaker in the world. Absolute joke.
    What do you have to do to get your stakes limited? Just do particularly well on their site and then they shut you out?
    It makes no difference if you win or lose. They will make your account unusable.

  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Taking value is what causes you to have your stake limited, regardless of winning and losing. Regularly betting purely on boosts, free bet offers etc is the way to get restricted swiftly! 
  • PolzeathNick
    PolzeathNick Posts: 332
    len90 said:
    Why are people betting with bookmakers? You will get a better price on an exchange. Bookies are scumbags. They will eventually mess you about. All the well known ones and most of the smaller ones have limited my stakes to pennies. I don't know how they stay in business. Ladbrokes refused £100 @ 4/1 then sent me an e-mail saying my stake limit is £1.64. They are supposed to be the biggest bookmaker in the world. Absolute joke.
    Extra places and bad each way

    Obviously that gets your account restricted, but that makes it all the more fun when you do get on!
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,423
    I’ve fancied and backed Kemboy twice.
    once in the Irish national and again at Cheltenham. It didn’t get to the second fence on either occasion.
    those on it today will be pleased to know I’ve left well alone.
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Taking value is what causes you to have your stake limited, regardless of winning and losing. Regularly betting purely on boosts, free bet offers etc is the way to get restricted swiftly! 


    Not sure that's the sole way to get banned, I bet on boosts regularly and do reasonably well with them. My mate does too, I think some people might be different tiered due to what they bet on/ whether they do slots/ poker etc. Just a guess but if you are more likely to go on sky casino you will be more valuable to them?

    I might put the odd £20 a month on slots, poker wont play for a while but will then play for months but usually win at poker. Slots varied results...

    Sometimes it doesn't make sense as I know who I bet with (Sky) limited one of my friends who doesn't bet much and definitely doesn't win from it longterm but they have reduced his stake to £1 something, the only limit I have ever had is on price boosts but that's usually £5-£15 nothing which I would put more on.

    They make the rules unfortunately and if you are bad customer (in their eyes, whatever the specifics are)

  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,598
    @PeanutsMolloy without reading all through this thread, where should I be putting my money?
  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,704
    guinnessaddick said:
    @PeanutsMolloy without reading all through this thread, where should I be putting my money?

    As we've got Foxhunters this pm on the GN course and there's rain about up there, I'll time the race and let you know then, if that's OK. Whether it's likely to be fast or slow side of GS makes a difference to some.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    len90 said:
    Why are people betting with bookmakers? You will get a better price on an exchange. Bookies are scumbags. They will eventually mess you about. All the well known ones and most of the smaller ones have limited my stakes to pennies. I don't know how they stay in business. Ladbrokes refused £100 @ 4/1 then sent me an e-mail saying my stake limit is £1.64. They are supposed to be the biggest bookmaker in the world. Absolute joke.
    (cough) used to be ;-)
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Taking value is what causes you to have your stake limited, regardless of winning and losing. Regularly betting purely on boosts, free bet offers etc is the way to get restricted swiftly! 

    Agreed. It's not winning or losing, it's about your betting pattern/choices.
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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    PolzeathNick said:
    len90 said:
    Why are people betting with bookmakers? You will get a better price on an exchange. Bookies are scumbags. They will eventually mess you about. All the well known ones and most of the smaller ones have limited my stakes to pennies. I don't know how they stay in business. Ladbrokes refused £100 @ 4/1 then sent me an e-mail saying my stake limit is £1.64. They are supposed to be the biggest bookmaker in the world. Absolute joke.
    Extra places and bad each way

    Obviously that gets your account restricted, but that makes it all the more fun when you do get on!
    Filth ;-)
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    go on kalashnikov you good thing, was gutted when it was hampered and ur at cheltenham, no where near as much on today as i did at cheltenham but a nice start
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    What the complete balls was that from Johnson?! Went at a trot and then obviously got done by a quicker horse. Absolute rubbish.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    PaddyP17 said:
    What the complete balls was that from Johnson?! Went at a trot and then obviously got done by a quicker horse. Absolute rubbish.
    one jockey i can never usually beat, if i'm on him he loses if i'm on something else he wins. 

    aintree is usually a bloodbath for faves hoping that is not the case later on with bvd
  • GRAY9
    GRAY9 Posts: 1,082
    PeanutsMolloy said:
    guinnessaddick said:
    @PeanutsMolloy without reading all through this thread, where should I be putting my money?

    As we've got Foxhunters this pm on the GN course and there's rain about up there, I'll time the race and let you know then, if that's OK. Whether it's likely to be fast or slow side of GS makes a difference to some.
    Current going reading 6.5. Suggests good to soft or better.
  • PolzeathNick
    PolzeathNick Posts: 332
    bobmunro said:
    PolzeathNick said:
    len90 said:
    Why are people betting with bookmakers? You will get a better price on an exchange. Bookies are scumbags. They will eventually mess you about. All the well known ones and most of the smaller ones have limited my stakes to pennies. I don't know how they stay in business. Ladbrokes refused £100 @ 4/1 then sent me an e-mail saying my stake limit is £1.64. They are supposed to be the biggest bookmaker in the world. Absolute joke.
    Extra places and bad each way

    Obviously that gets your account restricted, but that makes it all the more fun when you do get on!
    Filth ;-)
    I'm not changing!  No matter what Denise does!
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    edited April 2019
    nico saying ground is hard going. 

    fakir doudaries unlucky there.

    band of outlaws v dissapointing. 
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,240
    Hard going as in hard ground or hard going as in boggy and heavy?
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    Each way filth from Christopher Wood :heart:
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    Carter said:
    Hard going as in hard ground or hard going as in boggy and heavy?
    boggy and heavy, weather looks horrendous up that way - certainly affecting the crowd 
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  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    bobmunro said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Taking value is what causes you to have your stake limited, regardless of winning and losing. Regularly betting purely on boosts, free bet offers etc is the way to get restricted swiftly! 

    Agreed. It's not winning or losing, it's about your betting pattern/choices.
     I agree with this from personal experience
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    Come on kemboy 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,758
    PaddyP17 said:
    Each way filth from Christopher Wood :heart:
    Cheers Pads. Had Pentland and CW.
  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,704
    edited April 2019
    Times of the first 2 suggest genuine Good to Soft on Mildmay and hurdle courses - weather enough to make it hard going. GN course likely to be a touch softer because of watering policy (all 3 courses watered up to last Sat).
    Mind you, going could easily change to Soft during the afternoon from the look of the rain.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    paulbaconsarnie said:
    I’ve fancied and backed Kemboy twice.
    once in the Irish national and again at Cheltenham. It didn’t get to the second fence on either occasion.
    those on it today will be pleased to know I’ve left well alone.
    Unlucky :-(
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    cs1986 said:
    Come on kemboy 
    I love ruby
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    He's absolutely pissed that! Profit in the book on a 2pts win tip. Delicious.
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    my 50/1 shot treble all came 2nd :( thanks kemboy for making up some of the loses
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,423
    paulbaconsarnie said:
    I’ve fancied and backed Kemboy twice.
    once in the Irish national and again at Cheltenham. It didn’t get to the second fence on either occasion.
    those on it today will be pleased to know I’ve left well alone.
    You’re welcome.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    Jheeze, That blonde woman looking young Olly up and down a few times there  on ITV. 

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