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Rate your England Derbies

AFKABartram
AFKABartram Posts: 58,075
in Other Football and Sports
Top for me are

Sheffield
Villa v Blues 

for intercity  derbies. Liverpool and Manchester for me are relatively friendly, North London a bit contrived.

Newcastle v Sunderland for non same city derbies. Pompey v Saints probably the runner up of those. 

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  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,316
    Bristol derby can get a bit tasty at times.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,443
    Charlton v Palace. 

    All others are interesting, but unimportant.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,075
    edited March 2019
    iaitch said:
    Bristol derby can get a bit tasty at times.
    Lots of games can get potentially tasty, but for me Rovers have always been a much smaller club to make it viable. Rejected
  • JohnnyJoeyDeeDee
    JohnnyJoeyDeeDee Posts: 1,047
    Guildford v C Palace 
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,247
    Surprised you think N London is a bit contrived. I live up here and it feels pretty genuine. 
  • ChicagoAddick
    ChicagoAddick Posts: 4,415
    Millwall v West Ham. Think the rest fight for 2nd place. Literally 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,153
    West Ham v Millwall

    Pretty much everyone in London apart form us and Palace against Chelsea
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,548
    HMP Wormwood Scubs screws V HMP Wandsworth inmates.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Imo Liverpool v Man United is the biggest, and best club game in world football. The hatred between the 2 cities goes back hundreds of years and has become embodied in the game between English footballs 2 most successful entities (Ryan Giggs is 3rd BTW).

    It's unique it that respect.  Most of the other big "derbies" are one city affairs split on race, class or religion.  El classico is more of an "International" fixture. 
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,322
    Derby and forest is also worth a mention.

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  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,247
    Cafc43v3r said:


      Most of the other big "derbies" are one city affairs split on race, class or religion.  
    Interesting suggestion. What have you got in mind?
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,075
    ChicagoAddick said:
    Millwall v West Ham. Think the rest fight for 2nd place. Literally 
    I think it’s a little bit fake and posturing to be honest. An element of playing up to it. No doubt these were the main London offs in the 70s and 80s, but I’ve never been convinced there’s real hatred there. In fact I think there’s probably a little bit of respect. Fact they don’t play each other regularly probably makes it feel more an event. 

    Rejected.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,075
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Imo Liverpool v Man United is the biggest, and best club game in world football. The hatred between the 2 cities goes back hundreds of years and has become embodied in the game between English footballs 2 most successful entities (Ryan Giggs is 3rd BTW).

    It's unique it that respect.  Most of the other big "derbies" are one city affairs split on race, class or religion.  El classico is more of an "International" fixture. 
    40 years ago maybe, but as a game I think it’s been diluted as a rivalry by the spread of support through the country (and indeed the world) those two attract. Very few at those games actual,y live in Manchester or Liverpool. Rejected.
  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    Millwall v West Ham
    Birmingham v Villa
    Pompey v Saints
    Sheffield - although was poor the other night
    Bristol
    Tyne and Wear
    Personally think there is more hatred in Liverpool and Leeds vs Man Utd than there is for Man City v Man U.
    Watford v Luton
    Chester v Wrexham 

    I generally think consistent premiership ones have become very watered down.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,834
    Stoke v port vale
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 29,003
    How come, no one has mentioned the M23 derby?
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,075
    palarsehater said:
    Derby and forest is also worth a mention.
    Even size clubs with solid history, and a step up from the East Anglia nonsense, but one of their badge is a sheep and the other is a tree. More Countryfile with John Craven than football. Rejected. 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,316
    Bromley played Ebbsfleet recently as there was bit of a kerfuffle back at Bromley South station. 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,075
    clb74 said:
    Stoke v port vale
    Only ever play when Stoke are going through a very bad patch, providing a minor distraction to pot making. Rejected
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,433
    Burnley v Blackburn should get a mention.

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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 29,003
    AFKABartram said:
    iaitch said:
    Bristol derby can get a bit tasty at times.
    Lots of games can get potentially tasty, but for me Rovers have always been a much smaller club to make it viable. Rejected
    AFKABartram said:
    palarsehater said:
    Derby and forest is also worth a mention.
    Even size clubs with solid history, and a step up from the East Anglia nonsense, but one of their badge is a sheep and the other is a tree. More Countryfile with John Craven than football. Rejected. 
    AFKABartram said:
    clb74 said:
    Stoke v port vale
    Only ever play when Stoke are going through a very bad patch, providing a minor distraction to pot making. Rejected
    Don't think these Sunday morning runs are doing you any good, mood wise.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,247
    Chesterfield v Mansfield. The miners' strike derby.
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,312
    The best derbies are when clubs don’t meet each other regularly and aren’t guaranteed to be in the same division as each other. 

    Newcastle v Sunderland is my favourite though.
  • Hastingsaddick
    Hastingsaddick Posts: 4,079
    AFKABartram said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Imo Liverpool v Man United is the biggest, and best club game in world football. The hatred between the 2 cities goes back hundreds of years and has become embodied in the game between English footballs 2 most successful entities (Ryan Giggs is 3rd BTW).

    It's unique it that respect.  Most of the other big "derbies" are one city affairs split on race, class or religion.  El classico is more of an "International" fixture. 
    40 years ago maybe, but as a game I think it’s been diluted as a rivalry by the spread of support through the country (and indeed the world) those two attract. Very few at those games actual,y live in Manchester or Liverpool. Rejected.
    When we lived in Singapore this was the biggest game out there bar none.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Been to a few -

    Palace v Charlton
    Arsenal v Spurs
    Millwall v West Ham

    Worst in my experience, and not often thought about, has to be Chelsea v Spurs

  • Hastingsaddick
    Hastingsaddick Posts: 4,079
    guinnessaddick said:
    How come, no one has mentioned the M23 derby?
    A23.

  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,969
    AFKABartram said:
    palarsehater said:
    Derby and forest is also worth a mention.
    Even size clubs with solid history, and a step up from the East Anglia nonsense, but one of their badge is a sheep and the other is a tree. More Countryfile with John Craven than football. Rejected. 
    Nonsense?! Wash your mouth out.

    It may not garner the same level of interest around the country as the Lancashire/Yorkshire rivalry but there's plenty of competition between the North Folk and South Folk of the Kingdom of East Anglia.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,075
    Briston_Addick said:
    AFKABartram said:
    palarsehater said:
    Derby and forest is also worth a mention.
    Even size clubs with solid history, and a step up from the East Anglia nonsense, but one of their badge is a sheep and the other is a tree. More Countryfile with John Craven than football. Rejected. 
    Nonsense?! Wash your mouth out.

    It may not garner the same level of interest around the country as the Lancashire/Yorkshire rivalry but there's plenty of competition between the North Folk and South Folk of the Kingdom of East Anglia.
    Most are related Briston. A rowdy wedding in sports wear. Rejected. 
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,834
    Lincoln grimsby
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,075
    paulbaconsarnie said:
    Burnley v Blackburn should get a mention.
    Struggling to reject this one. Similar size towns and clubs with rich histories. History includes an abandoned game and repeated crowd trouble.

    However, they sing ‘no nay never no more’ to each other, which is some weird ye olde English ditty to sing whilst slurping mead down the inn, and fairly sure both teams run out to the Hovis music. Can’t take them seriously, the nearest to a rivalry is which lot will enter the 20th century first. 

    Rejected.

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