Charlton / L1 - January 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed, deadline day starts p98)

Isawsummersplay said:

You would hope that the lure of a promotion push, with a possible Wembley appearance in May, would be better than inevitable relegation (Huddersfield), or, at best, mid-table mediocrity (Brentford and Millwall).

But would you turn down 10k a week at the Terriers in favour of maybe 4 or 5 at Charlton?

Pedro45 said:

Isawsummersplay said:

You would hope that the lure of a promotion push, with a possible Wembley appearance in May, would be better than inevitable relegation (Huddersfield), or, at best, mid-table mediocrity (Brentford and Millwall).

But would you turn down 10k a week at the Terriers in favour of maybe 4 or 5 at Charlton?

Yet in 4 months or so time Grant could get promoted with us to the Championship and earn a 10k a week contract with us where Huddersfield, Brentford and Millwall would also be in next season. If the rest of the season goes well Grant could have a promotion next to his name and maybe even league top scorer.

RD is the cause of all the speculation by not tying players down on proper contracts yet but I can't see the appeal of a relegation dogfight at any of those teams mentioned. Huddersfield in particular are Premier League in name only for a few more weeks.

Henry Irving said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

No idea if Mo Eisa is what we need or whether or not we are interested but Kenny Jackett has ruled out a Pompey move for him.

He comes from the Sudan

Really ?

Pity as I’ve heard they don’t like it up em.

MartinCAFC said:

Pedro45 said:

Isawsummersplay said:

You would hope that the lure of a promotion push, with a possible Wembley appearance in May, would be better than inevitable relegation (Huddersfield), or, at best, mid-table mediocrity (Brentford and Millwall).

But would you turn down 10k a week at the Terriers in favour of maybe 4 or 5 at Charlton?

Yet in 4 months or so time Grant could get promoted with us to the Championship and earn a 10k a week contract with us where Huddersfield, Brentford and Millwall would also be in next season. If the rest of the season goes well Grant could have a promotion next to his name and maybe even league top scorer.

RD is the cause of all the speculation by not tying players down on proper contracts yet but I can't see the appeal of a relegation dogfight at any of those teams mentioned. Huddersfield in particular are Premier League in name only for a few more weeks.

You may be right about promotion and top scorer but who knows? With RD as owner there is no way he will get offered a 10k a week contract, promoted or not!

Players tend to take what's on the table, and we cannot guarantee anything right now. Others may be able to.

MartinCAFC said:

Pedro45 said:

Isawsummersplay said:

You would hope that the lure of a promotion push, with a possible Wembley appearance in May, would be better than inevitable relegation (Huddersfield), or, at best, mid-table mediocrity (Brentford and Millwall).

But would you turn down 10k a week at the Terriers in favour of maybe 4 or 5 at Charlton?

Yet in 4 months or so time Grant could get promoted with us to the Championship and earn a 10k a week contract with us where Huddersfield, Brentford and Millwall would also be in next season. If the rest of the season goes well Grant could have a promotion next to his name and maybe even league top scorer.

RD is the cause of all the speculation by not tying players down on proper contracts yet but I can't see the appeal of a relegation dogfight at any of those teams mentioned. Huddersfield in particular are Premier League in name only for a few more weeks.

Too many if’s there. If they go down, if we go up, if we offer him 10k per week, if, if, if. Even if we offered him a new deal tomorrow I’d be surprised if he signed it as in the summer he’d be in high demand and have his pick of a number of clubs.

Mo Eisa is a decent player, would get us goals.

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

MartinCAFC said:

Pedro45 said:

Isawsummersplay said:

You would hope that the lure of a promotion push, with a possible Wembley appearance in May, would be better than inevitable relegation (Huddersfield), or, at best, mid-table mediocrity (Brentford and Millwall).

But would you turn down 10k a week at the Terriers in favour of maybe 4 or 5 at Charlton?

Yet in 4 months or so time Grant could get promoted with us to the Championship and earn a 10k a week contract with us where Huddersfield, Brentford and Millwall would also be in next season. If the rest of the season goes well Grant could have a promotion next to his name and maybe even league top scorer.

RD is the cause of all the speculation by not tying players down on proper contracts yet but I can't see the appeal of a relegation dogfight at any of those teams mentioned. Huddersfield in particular are Premier League in name only for a few more weeks.

If he's offered 10k a week at Huddersfield he'll be gone. He surely wouldn't turn that down based on what 'might' happen with us. Yes we 'might' go up, but equally he 'might' fracture his leg next week and be out injured for months, and then be without a club when his contract is up.

I see your point but Huddersfield will want impact players to make a difference now so any move is likely to be in the summer by which point they will be a Championship team and there's a good chance we could be then too.

It's going to come down to whether we get promoted or not and probably for most of the out of contract players not just Grant.

Out of curiosity though if we do get promoted in the summer which of the out of contract players would we deem good enough to want to stay and offer a new contract to anyway? For example players like Marshall and Vetokele will probably be allowed to leave anyway regardless of whether we go up, Bauer will probably be off regardless too. Solly has signed several contracts under RD already and would probably stay regardless of division. Would Fosu for example be good enough for The Championship? Probably warrants it's own thread this discussion.

killerandflash said:

Laughable that Huddersfield would consider a 3rd division striker as the answer to their problems up front. A player who has had a good season in L2, and half a good season in L1

They are preparing for life in the Championship.

It is why we should do we all to persuade him to stay this season and hope he will sign if we get promoted.

Grant won't be going anywhere, least alone Huddersfield. When was the last time a struggling Premiership team signed a player from league one.....esp one they want to play immediately. Never going to happen.

Dele Alli...

golfaddick said:

Grant won't be going anywhere, least alone Huddersfield. When was the last time a struggling Premiership team signed a player from league one.....esp one they want to play immediately. Never going to happen.

They would be looking to sign Grant with a view for Championship football next season. Would cost no fee if they can get him to sign a pre contract and his wages compared to what they are paying in the PL will be peanuts. It’s a cheapish punt but with parachute payments easily done. Third
/ fourth choice striker with potential for more ?

superclive said:

how close is Igor to being ready. Cullen back from same injury

Same as in dislocated shoulder yes, but not the same as in how bad it was, if I remember correctly Igors was worse and involved a op

paulie8290 said:

superclive said:

how close is Igor to being ready. Cullen back from same injury

Same as in dislocated shoulder yes, but not the same as in how bad it was, if I remember correctly Igors was worse and involved a op

I believe both may have had an operation. You are correct that Igor’s was worse and the operation unfortunately was more invasive.

RedChaser said:

superclive said:

how close is Igor to being ready. Cullen back from same injury

Cullen was running for a month before rejoining training. Igor has only just stated running so my guess is end of Feb but @sage is the 'expert' 😉

As Bowyer said recently, shoulder injuries for outfield players are a bit of a strange one because in theory, they can still run. But the motion of running involves moving the arms and shoulders so of course they can only begin to run when the glenohumeral joint is strong enough and stable enough to control that movement.

With previous injuries that Vetokele has had, we don’t know how much fitness he will have lost from being out and unable to even run until recently. With the extent of his dislocation, he will still be working on getting those structures as strong as possible.

You then have the stage of contact training which I am sure he is not close to yet. I’d assume that’s maybe two weeks away, at the very least. He’d then need a good week or so of contact training to see how he deals with it, to see how the shoulder is coping and to see how his fitness really is.

Overall, it’s 21st January today. I’d assume he won’t be back to play until around 16th February, which is Blackpool at home. That also goes in line with my post at the top of the Injury List thread.

killerandflash said:

RedChaser said:

superclive said:

how close is Igor to being ready. Cullen back from same injury

Cullen was running for a month before rejoining training. Igor has only just stated running so my guess is end of Feb but @sage is the 'expert' 😉

Bowyer has talked about how naturally fit Cullen is. I'm not sure the same can be said about Igor...

Yes that's why I said end of Feb but I bow to Sage's greater knowledge and he reckons could be back sooner, fingers crossed.