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Josh Maja - Sunderland Striker

Mendonca In Asdas
Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
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Has got 14 goals this season for the black cats, contract up at the end of the season,has been given a deadline of today to sign a new contract, which he has turned down apparently according to Sky Sports, will he play for Sunderland on Saturday?

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  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521
    Born in Lewisham.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    Weegie Addick said:

    Born in Lewisham.

    Fantastic!

    Come home and join the party Josh!
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited January 2019
    A non story really. Just a player out of contract who has probably been tapped up by another club. What is the deadline? If he doesn't sign the contract, he will be shot? I suppose it is only relevant if Sunderland fans want to be stupid enough to make it so. I doubt there are any truly loyal footballers, and I can't blame them, it is a short career. He might be best staying with them, but they ought to support him as any other player who puts on the shirt until he stops doing so.

    I was talking to a Liverpool fan in the pub yesterday about Gomez. I said I thought Liverpool were a bit naughty in the way they got Gomez from us, but I don't hold a grudge. They will be shafted by other clubs and we got a player like Taylor for free. All clubs shit on other clubs when they can so they shouldn't cry about it when it works against them.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Scoham said:

    I'm telling you - that Netflix scouting is the future. Bows and the boys are right at the cutting edge here.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    I think his agent may have advised him against signing but ultimately the player will make the decision. Sometimes a short term financial gain may not be best in the long term. Ask Diego Poyet!
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    I think his agent may have advised him against signing but ultimately the player will make the decision. Sometimes a short term financial gain may not be best in the long term. Ask Diego Poyet!

    Diego Poyet didnt sign cos he didnt want to be shipped off to Standard which was in his contract
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Saw a tweet earlier saying he’d been offered substantial money as well
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    cabbles said:

    Saw a tweet earlier saying he’d been offered substantial money as well

    7 times his current money

    So if currently on £1k a week he’s suddenly thinking he’s worth more than £7k a week after half a season.

    Agent is playing a game or player has had head turned....


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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    I would think he's on more than £1k a week....I know he's only 20 but I'd reckon at least double that.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    I feel like it was just yesterday or two days ago that someone reported Prem clubs were keeping an eye on him. I can't imagine we'd be able to land him. He's young, he's English, and he scored goals. He's got to be worth 10m and 25k/week to a Premier League club
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,311
    SDAddick said:

    I feel like it was just yesterday or two days ago that someone reported Prem clubs were keeping an eye on him. I can't imagine we'd be able to land him. He's young, he's English, and he scored goals. He's got to be worth 10m and 25k/week to a Premier League club

    Half a season in league one, no chance he’s a 10mill player
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    J BLOCK said:

    SDAddick said:

    I feel like it was just yesterday or two days ago that someone reported Prem clubs were keeping an eye on him. I can't imagine we'd be able to land him. He's young, he's English, and he scored goals. He's got to be worth 10m and 25k/week to a Premier League club

    Half a season in league one, no chance he’s a 10mill player
    He would go for 5mil plus add ons IMO
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    SDAddick said:

    I feel like it was just yesterday or two days ago that someone reported Prem clubs were keeping an eye on him. I can't imagine we'd be able to land him. He's young, he's English, and he scored goals. He's got to be worth 10m and 25k/week to a Premier League club

    I didn't read that tweet as we're interested, more that we're tracking the situation as Aribo has the same agent and is also out of contract at the end of the season.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    JessieAddick said:

    I'm in a Chinese Sunderland supporters chat group and some of them are obviously furious. According to them, this Josh Maja has only had a good half season. It kind of reminds me of the Scott Parker deal but big difference is Parker had been playing well for much longer than a whole season correct?

    I don't think the situation in comparable really, Parker had just signed a new contract in the summer, Maja's is about to run out, if Sunderland rated him that highly he would have been offered a contract before the season began, the club certainly have to take some of the responsibility here.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,014
    According to the Sunderland forum he's still on his first pro contract of just £600 a week and has been offered around 10 times that to stay. Decent money at league one level but no surprise his agent thinks he can get more than 6k a week elsewhere.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Football writer and Sunderland fan Jonathan Wilson said Spurs and Man City have shown interest. Fee of around £8million mentioned.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    edited January 2019
    This is one of the things that pisses me off about modern football. It’s so reactionary. Particularly with transfer fees for strikers who have one good season. He looks a real talent and is young, but I’ve seen so many strikers over the last few years smash out sometimes only 13/14 goals, all of a sudden you’re talking £10m plus and they’re on their way to a lower end prem or top end champ team

    I understand the whole fee system and money in the game has changed, but an example would be the Jonathan Kodjia. One season for Bristol City where he got 19 goals, Villa spend £15m on him

    This would’ve been the equivalent of Man City or QPR coming down from the prem in 96 and handing over £3/4m to us for David Whyte (RIP). Mental how all forwards seem to need to do now is get into the low teens for a season and they’re worth millions

  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,449
    If a striker is English and young then the price seems ridiculous - surprised Karlan hasn't got more interest.
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

    If a striker is English and young then the price seems ridiculous - surprised Karlan hasn't got more interest.

    Whats to say he wasnt the one we apparently rejected a £2m bid for the other week? - Would tie in with what Cabbles says about Strikers above
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    oohaahmortimer said:

    Swisdom said:



    7 times his current money

    So if currently on £1k a week he’s suddenly thinking he’s worth more than £7k a week

    Thanks for explaining:-)
    It’s a pleasure

  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223
    Aparently Palace looking at him
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    If he’s been told by his agent not to sign then it’s definitely not because Charlton are interested.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    If he’s been told by his agent not to sign then it’s definitely not because Charlton are interested.

    I don’t think anybody is saying that.

    More like we are in trouble if Aribo shares the same agent.
  • SOTF
    SOTF Posts: 1,149
    paulie8290 said:

    MuttleyCAFC said:

    I think his agent may have advised him against signing but ultimately the player will make the decision. Sometimes a short term financial gain may not be best in the long term. Ask Diego Poyet!

    Diego Poyet didnt sign cos he didnt want to be shipped off to Standard which was in his contract
    Can we please stop peddling that BS.

    It’s a pathetic attempt to manipulate a conversation to ease his conscious about ruining his own career.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,014
    cabbles said:

    This is one of the things that pisses me off about modern football. It’s so reactionary. Particularly with transfer fees for strikers who have one good season. He looks a real talent and is young, but I’ve seen so many strikers over the last few years smash out sometimes only 13/14 goals, all of a sudden you’re talking £10m plus and they’re on their way to a lower end prem or top end champ team

    I understand the whole fee system and money in the game has changed, but an example would be the Jonathan Kodjia. One season for Bristol City where he got 19 goals, Villa spend £15m on him

    This would’ve been the equivalent of Man City or QPR coming down from the prem in 96 and handing over £3/4m to us for David Whyte (RIP). Mental how all forwards seem to need to do now is get into the low teens for a season and they’re worth millions

    In fairness Kodjia did well, scored about 19-20 goals for Villa but then he broke his ankle and then fucked it again not long after returning.

    But when a place in the premier league is worth 100m, it's no surprise that a club will spend 10-15m on a striker who scores goals. And yes it's reactionary but for a reason. If a striker has a good season and is worth 10m then a club might take a gamble because if they don't buy him and he goes and scores a bundle of goals again the next season, the price will be 50-100% higher the following summer and he'll be going to a bigger club.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    SurvivaloftheFittest said:

    paulie8290 said:

    MuttleyCAFC said:

    I think his agent may have advised him against signing but ultimately the player will make the decision. Sometimes a short term financial gain may not be best in the long term. Ask Diego Poyet!

    Diego Poyet didnt sign cos he didnt want to be shipped off to Standard which was in his contract
    Can we please stop peddling that BS.

    It’s a pathetic attempt to manipulate a conversation to ease his conscious about ruining his own career.
    or it might be true...
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    His agent has eyes of clubs higher than Charlton and Sunderland

    Shame because I was impressed with his play and movement today
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    nth london addick said:

    His agent has eyes of clubs higher than Charlton and Sunderland

    Shame because I was impressed with his play and movement today

    Especially in the first half I thought he looked good. In the second half he didn’t get much service so we couldn’t see much more from him.

    Wish we had a reasonable amount of cash so we could sign players like him and Eaves to push us on in the second half of the season.

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