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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    I think that topping a Group containing Croatia and Spain would look good on Southgate's CV, especially when added to a WC semi.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    I think that topping a Group containing Croatia and Spain would look good on Southgate's CV, especially when added to a WC semi.

    Would go some way to vindicating our place in that semi too.

    The semi final line up then was: France, Belgium, England, Croatia.

    People said we didn’t deserve to be there.

    If the last four of the Nations League are France, Belgium, England and Portugal/Italy, I’d say that’s more than a lucky run in a single tournament.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited November 2018
    I'm looking forward to the Croatia game as a proper game. I wouldn't care if I missed it if it was a friendly, so the League has to be a success. I'm sure I'm not alone thinking like that.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,832
    Not even about winning the tournament for me, it is the greater exposure to playing similar ranked teams rather than the odd game against Germany here or there.
    The more we play them the more chance of beating them in proper tournaments.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    I think that topping a Group containing Croatia and Spain would look good on Southgate's CV, especially when added to a WC semi.

    A competitive win away to Spain isn't too bad either.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    Callumcafc said:

    MuttleyCAFC said:

    I think that topping a Group containing Croatia and Spain would look good on Southgate's CV, especially when added to a WC semi.

    Would go some way to vindicating our place in that semi too.

    The semi final line up then was: France, Belgium, England, Croatia.

    People said we didn’t deserve to be there.

    If the last four of the Nations League are France, Belgium, England and Portugal/Italy, I’d say that’s more than a lucky run in a single tournament.
    Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

    We're potentially 90 minutes away from being relegated and every non-English fan (and NLA) saying "told you it was a lucky run to the semi finals"
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    The way the groups are set up with just 3 teams in most of them means that promotion and relegation will be a regular occurrence, rather than an occasional triumph/disaster.

    From a Nations League winning/survival point of view, England were place in a really tough group, but for the development of our young players having to play Spain and Croatia has been a really useful exercise
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    Just read that last night was Sergio Ramos' 161st cap for Spain! That is an incredible tally for a guy who is a) not that old, b) playing for a world class nation and c) is an outfield player.

    I expect he'll retire after Euro 2020 but if he wanted to, he could carry on and get to 200 caps.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Just read that last night was Sergio Ramos' 161st cap for Spain! That is an incredible tally for a guy who is a) not that old, b) playing for a world class nation and c) is an outfield player.

    I expect he'll retire after Euro 2020 but if he wanted to, he could carry on and get to 200 caps.

    and d) amazed no ones done a job on him to put him out for a significant length of time and affect his career
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    E) - Is it me or does he look a bit like Waggy?

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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,832
    That was St Patrick’s Day.
    His green leprechaun hat has fallen off.
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307
    edited November 2018
    Really hope we win on Sunday and reach the nations league semi finals. Even if we do get relegated, I most definitely think we are going in the right direction under Southgate. We were robbed by an awful refereeing decision against Spain and should have put Croatia to the sword.

    If we want to win the Euro 2020 and World Cup 2022, we will need to beat the likes of Belgium and France in tournaments. Can’t see a better way of building momentum than winning the nations league.

    I do agree with other comments that the nations league will have a short shelf life when Yo Yo clubs start to emerge between Div 1 and Div 2.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    edited November 2018
    Netherlands lead France 1-0. Germany relegated to League B as it stands.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    edited November 2018
    Denmark lead Wales 1-0. As it stands, that confirms Denmark’s promotion to League A as well as Ireland’s relegation to League C. Wales would remain in League B.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    Holland seem to have started again after the failure of 2016 and 2018. Lots of decent youngsters coming through.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    edited November 2018
    If the score stays 1-0 between Netherlands and France (or they go on to win by two or more), the Dutch would only need a point against Germany to advance the competition finals next summer at France’s expense.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Gibraltar were beating Armenia in the first half but they’re now losing 1-3 unfortunately.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    Callumcafc said:

    Gibraltar were beating Armenia in the first half but they’re now losing 1-3 unfortunately.

    Now 4-1. Seem to have completely disintegrated after half time.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,832
    5-1
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,943
    MrLargo said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Gibraltar were beating Armenia in the first half but they’re now losing 1-3 unfortunately.

    Now 4-1. Seem to have completely disintegrated after half time.
    Are they playing uphill up the rock this half?
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  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    North Lower Neil said:

    MrLargo said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Gibraltar were beating Armenia in the first half but they’re now losing 1-3 unfortunately.

    Now 4-1. Seem to have completely disintegrated after half time.
    Are they playing uphill up the rock this half?
    F#*king looks like it. Or they found out that I'd backed them with a 2 goal headstart and decided to not bother putting any effort in the second half just to show me. Bastards. Let Spain have it back.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    2-0 Holland
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Netherlands win 2-0. Germany are relegated to League B.

    If Netherlands beat Germany or draw later this week, they will win their group ahead of France. A German win will mean France win the group.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Denmark beat Wales 2-1 and are promoted to League A alongside Ukraine and Bosnia.

    Ireland are relegated to League C.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Callumcafc said:

    Netherlands win 2-0. Germany are relegated to League B.

    If Netherlands beat Germany or draw later this week, they will win their group ahead of France. A German win will mean France win the group.

    Considering where Dutch football has been in recent years, this has been a great performance by them. Pretty humiliating for the Germans too, following their poor World Cup
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    Koeman has done a remarkable job turning their fortunes round so quickly.

    Since they lost to us at home in March they have beaten Portugal 3-0 away, drew away to Belgium and italy and beat Germany and France at home.

    Which also makes our 1-0 win there look even better.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    San Siro sold out for Italy v Portugal tomorrow
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    Portugal are at home to Poland in the last game, so even if italy win tonight i don't think it will matter too much.

    Why is Ronaldo not in the squad again? He hasn't featured at all since the world cup.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Ronaldo has featured a lot more for Juventus than anyone thought he was going to.
    His last few years at Madrid he almost took the first few months of the season easy, people claimed he was losing it scoring fewer goals, then come the new year and the business end of the league and Champions League he’s fresh averaging over a goal a game.
    He is using the international breaks as his recover and is basically picking and choosing when he plays.
    Let’s face it, nobody in Portugal is going to question him.
    Considering his ego and desire to be the best ever you would think he would want to play every match, with the aim of breaking all the international goal records. But this idea of holding something back for the end of the season has worked for him the past couple of years.

    No player is bigger than the team, tell that to Ronaldo.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    So glad that Wales didnt get promoted

    Couldnt have handled them in the top tier if England had gotten relegated - Only Home Nation that irritate me at the moment, especially as they seem more England B than the others

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