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Lee Probert
Macronate
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Booked Leicester’s Demarai Gray for removing his shirt to reveal a ‘For Vichai’ top after scoring.
Rules are rules, I understand that.
But on this occasion, could he not have turned a blind eye after the goal was scored and shown just a hint of empathy.
Rules are rules, I understand that.
But on this occasion, could he not have turned a blind eye after the goal was scored and shown just a hint of empathy.
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Think the refs hands are tied tbh, i'm sure he didn't want to do it2
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You can't change the laws or the rules on a one-off basis. I am sure Gray knew what would happen if it he did it and, on balance thought it was worth it. Right decision in my view.Macronate said:Booked Leicester’s Demarai Gray for removing his shirt to reveal a ‘For Vichai’ top after scoring.
Rules are rules, I understand that.
But on this occasion, could he not have turned a blind eye after the goal was scored and shown just a hint of empathy.3 -
Should he have booked him. No.
Would he have been reprimanded had he not. Yes.
Shouldn’t be a rule at all but can see why the ref has done it.5 -
The ref has to do it.
It's the ruling. And his assessor is sitting in the stands.
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The ref grimaced as soon as he saw the shirt come off - he knew what he was about to have to do and all the abuse he was about to get for it.
Rules need to change.
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absolutely not. Gray has made a concious decision to do something knowing he will be booked for it1
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Let’s imagine he had not booked him. What would have happened to the ref? Lots of praise from everyone. Worst case, he gets a game ban but a) so what and b) he wouldn’t because there would have been uproar.
Should have let it go.5 -
Should definitely have let it go.0
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Obviously can't let it go. Shame4
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You could tell from the footage he didn't want to book him, but he had to.1
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Stupid rule1
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It is, no choice though, shame because he failed to give Leicester one of the most baltant penalities you’ll ever see0
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As others have said its the laws of the game and yes it is a stupid law, but the referee cant pick and choose what laws he follows.
Gray knew he would get a booking, why did he not go over to the bench and get a shirt to hold up like most players do nowadays.
The law is stupid and does need removing but until The FA remove it nothing can be done4 -
For those saying he had to...
I give you Darren Deadman who refused to book Billy Sharp for having words on his shirt in respect of his still born baby
Yes he may have gotten in trouble for not booking Gray yet then questions should have been directed at the head of the Referees (Mike Reilly?)5 -
A piece of yellow plastic doesn’t retract from what Gray done. I reckon if he had a ‘second bookable offence’ from then on the ref might have ‘missed it’ either way I don’t think he should be criticised for it, it’s very clear that he was told, possibly specifically for this game that he has to book it either way.2
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Ref was right to book him. Nobody asks players to take their shirts off.1
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The ref should have taken his shirt off too.9
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Refs don't get the leeway to re-engineer the rules of the game, during the game. End of.2
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Imagine he didn’t book him. Later in the game a Cardiff player, already booked, did the same. He’d be unable to send him off wouldn’t he. Think he did the right thing personally.5
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It’s a shit rule, so what if he did not send off a Cardiff player later. No one would have complained.LargeAddick said:Imagine he didn’t book him. Later in the game a Cardiff player, already booked, did the same. He’d be unable to send him off wouldn’t he. Think he did the right thing personally.
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Right to book him - the refs deciding when not to apply the laws of the game (rather than interpreting the situation and applying the correct law etc) is a slippery slope.
That particular law is stupid though.3 -
Also, how hard is it to just put the shirt up and over your head and resting on the back of your neck? Players are thick.
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Right to book him but the FA should state that they are making a one off exception and will not record it. Everybody wins. Certainly not the ref’s fault.7
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Arent players booked whether the shirt is taken off or whether there is a message underneath?North Lower Neil said:Also, how hard is it to just put the shirt up and over your head and resting on the back of your neck? Players are thick.
I thought the rules meant neither are allowed0 -
Players can celebrate when a goal is scored, but the celebration must not be excessive; choreographed celebrations are not encouraged and must not cause excessive time-wasting.ForeverAddickted said:North Lower Neil said:Also, how hard is it to just put the shirt up and over your head and resting on the back of your neck? Players are thick.
Arent players booked whether the shirt is taken off or whether there is a message underneath?
I thought the rules meant neither are allowed
Leaving the field of play to celebrate a goal is not a cautionable offence but players should return as soon as possible.
A player must be cautioned for:
- Climbing onto a perimeter fence and/or approaching the spectators in a manner which causes safety and/or security issues
- Gesturing or acting in a provocative, derisory or inflammatory way
- Covering the head or face with a mask or other similar item
- Removing the shirt or covering the head with the shirt1 -
Rules are rules - but bollox to them considering the circumstances. No one minded. Everyone expected it. Fans from both sides were together here. FFS rules like this don't matter today.1
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Today no, but then it sets a precedent for referees to ignore certain rules depending on the circumstances and that's only going to cause problems.Arsenetatters said:Rules are rules - but bollox to them considering the circumstances. No one minded. Everyone expected it. Fans from both sides were together here. FFS rules like this don't matter today.
Best thing to do would be to have the booking rescinded after the event but you can't blame the referee personally here.0 -
Lee Probert would have spoken but the players beforehand. The shirt removal thing would have been mentioned.
The card was deserved.0 -
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If I was paid to do something and ignored a blatant misdemeanour I'd, at the least, be questioned by my boss. Possibly sanctioned
So the ref, in my opinion, did what he aught to do.
Leave it then to the bosses to pardon.1
