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  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521

    Posh students should stick to putting there podgers in pigs heads.

    That was Oxford.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,247
    Pricks
  • iainment said:

    Do what you want. Wear a poppy or not. As long as you don't impose your point of view as being the only one possible.
    Me, I won't wear a poppy or support the British Legion.
    But I respect those who gave their lives actively or not for freedom.

    Weird.
  • Leuth has tried to draw attention to the dodgy way this story has come about

    Getting played, people
  • iainment said:

    Do what you want. Wear a poppy or not. As long as you don't impose your point of view as being the only one possible.
    Me, I won't wear a poppy or support the British Legion.
    But I respect those who gave their lives actively or not for freedom.

    Weird.
    Is it not better for individuals to think about their own relationship with the idea of Remembrance, rather than just going through the motions, without consideration?

    You don't have to agree with the view that they come to about the iconography of Remembrance, but they are at least remembering - can the same be said of those appearing on the football field or TV where the Poppy is attached by employers?
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Funny old world we live in
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255

    Leuth has tried to draw attention to the dodgy way this story has come about

    Getting played, people

    Keith is a powerful force
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    edited October 2018
    Such brave and inspirational young people that have seen the morons, Nazis, idiots and racists take their futures away from them and utterly destroyed every aspect of their lives FOREVER.

    Is it any wonder they are taking such stances and trying to change the world for the better?

    Undeniable heroes.
  • CharltonMadrid
    CharltonMadrid Posts: 5,091
    edited October 2018
    Totally disagree with them but this seems like one of those stories doing the rounds just to wind people up, like ones that say a council banned Christmas or something. Surely there are more things to get angry about in the world than a bunch of students being predictably contrary.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    edited October 2018
    they gave their today for our tomorrow - poppy wearing is a personal choice, people have there reasons - my Mrs does not wear one but then will respect minutes silence etc, and thinks its great how we remember the fallen.

    i will continue as i have done for the last 6 years to arrange poppy collections on our trade counters.

    as per @ValleyGary am going to head up town, having never been before does anyone know if there is a parade to watch or is it ticketed etc? any tips would be great.

    thanks in advance.
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  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,922
    My missus went to Cambridge (from state school so she was very much the exception) so I met quite a few of your typical Cambridge students.

    Obviously they are very strong academically but that is all they know. They have been in a private school environment designed solely to get them to Oxbridge but at the expense of literally everything else. They have zero common sense, zero perspective, zero self awareness, zero life skills and absolutely zero knowledge of anything outside their bubble.

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,224

    My missus went to Cambridge (from state school so she was very much the exception) so I met quite a few of your typical Cambridge students.

    Obviously they are very strong academically but that is all they know. They have been in a private school environment designed solely to get them to Oxbridge but at the expense of literally everything else. They have zero common sense, zero perspective, zero self awareness, zero life skills and absolutely zero knowledge of anything outside their bubble.

    You never told us your wife knew Leuth.

  • My missus went to Cambridge (from state school so she was very much the exception) so I met quite a few of your typical Cambridge students.

    Obviously they are very strong academically but that is all they know. They have been in a private school environment designed solely to get them to Oxbridge but at the expense of literally everything else. They have zero common sense, zero perspective, zero self awareness, zero life skills and absolutely zero knowledge of anything outside their bubble.

    That applies to most students to be fair.
  • My missus went to Cambridge (from state school so she was very much the exception) so I met quite a few of your typical Cambridge students.

    Obviously they are very strong academically but that is all they know. They have been in a private school environment designed solely to get them to Oxbridge but at the expense of literally everything else. They have zero common sense, zero perspective, zero self awareness, zero life skills and absolutely zero knowledge of anything outside their bubble.

    That's why it's great that so many go on to become politicians.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,922

    My missus went to Cambridge (from state school so she was very much the exception) so I met quite a few of your typical Cambridge students.

    Obviously they are very strong academically but that is all they know. They have been in a private school environment designed solely to get them to Oxbridge but at the expense of literally everything else. They have zero common sense, zero perspective, zero self awareness, zero life skills and absolutely zero knowledge of anything outside their bubble.

    That applies to most students to be fair.
    On the most part I disagree. At my uni most people had a sense of perspective and had worked pretty hard to get there. Most had experience of the working world in some form or another and most had an element of common sense.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315

    My missus went to Cambridge (from state school so she was very much the exception) so I met quite a few of your typical Cambridge students.

    Obviously they are very strong academically but that is all they know. They have been in a private school environment designed solely to get them to Oxbridge but at the expense of literally everything else. They have zero common sense, zero perspective, zero self awareness, zero life skills and absolutely zero knowledge of anything outside their bubble.

    While this is very much the case, at least they teach you to read between the lines a little ;)
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    edited October 2018
    Spoilt brats .. a good spell in the trenches would do em the world of good .. but seriously .. we need to keep a sense of national pride without being jingoistic . The Cambridge students in theory will be amongst the leaders and trend setters of tomorrow. This kind of attitude does not auger well.
    The impression given to me is that in a pretty comfortable world, there just MUST be something from the past for well off, probably well meaning but misguided middle class, young, egg heads to protest about
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Has anyone actually read the whole article?
  • I thought the whole point of fighting for freedom was to allow people to have different opinions even if you don't agree with them.

    Each individual has a choice about wearing a poppy and how they view Rememberance Sunday. Surely that's the point here?
  • Who gives a fuck? I’ll be remembering and paying my respects and that’s all that matters to me. Making the journey up town on November 11th with it being 100 years since armistice. Couldn’t give a shit what’s happening in Cambridge.

    Spot on there Gary...down here (Hastings) our bonfire society will have 100 members carrying 100 lit torches from the beacon on the East Hill to the pier.
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  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948

    Who gives a fuck? I’ll be remembering and paying my respects and that’s all that matters to me. Making the journey up town on November 11th with it being 100 years since armistice. Couldn’t give a shit what’s happening in Cambridge.

    Spot on there Gary...down here (Hastings) our bonfire society will have 100 members carrying 100 lit torches from the beacon on the East Hill to the pier.
    Never knew you were down that way, @Hastingsaddick . Learn summin new every day
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,918
    McBobbin said:

    Has anyone actually read the whole article?

    Don't be silly, that would stop people being offended by click bait
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    shine166 said:

    McBobbin said:

    Has anyone actually read the whole article?

    Don't be silly, that would stop people being offended by click bait
    The journalistic scoop is 'All students are w@#,ers.'

    The next article explains that water is wet.
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    Love university challenge
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,981

    My missus went to Cambridge (from state school so she was very much the exception) so I met quite a few of your typical Cambridge students.

    Obviously they are very strong academically but that is all they know. They have been in a private school environment designed solely to get them to Oxbridge but at the expense of literally everything else. They have zero common sense, zero perspective, zero self awareness, zero life skills and absolutely zero knowledge of anything outside their bubble.

    That applies to most students to be fair.
    Does not apply to my son..
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    Uboat said:

    'Throughout England people, especially elderly people, were thoroughly shocked. 'What is wrong with the younger generation?' was the general query.'

    When the Oxford Union voted that they wouldn't fight for King and Country in 1933.

    There's nothing new under the sun.

    I wonder what those useless tossers did in 1939 then? Ah, the wonderful ignorance that is youth.

  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    Uboat said:



    The retort that “ they would be able to voice these opinions if it weren’t for war/sacrifice/etc” has always been a weird one for me to grapple with.

    So you want them to have those freedoms but not to put those freedoms into practice?

    Also the Second World War is the only conflict we've ever been involved in where freedom of speech would have been under threat of we'd lost.
    Not just freedom of speech. Our whole way of life would have changed. Just thinking about the possible outcome of a fascist victory gives me the shivers. The whole of Europe plunged into a "new dark age" as a famous Briton once said. (If you don't know who said that look it up!)

  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,037
    What a dog whistle of an article. Ridiculous.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,846
    edited October 2018
    redbuttle said:

    My missus went to Cambridge (from state school so she was very much the exception) so I met quite a few of your typical Cambridge students.

    Obviously they are very strong academically but that is all they know. They have been in a private school environment designed solely to get them to Oxbridge but at the expense of literally everything else. They have zero common sense, zero perspective, zero self awareness, zero life skills and absolutely zero knowledge of anything outside their bubble.

    That applies to most students to be fair.
    Does not apply to my son..
    Neither of my sons either.

    Still you can't beat a good stereotype.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    The independent paper of the University seems to give a better unbiased account of what happened perhaps, although pretty hard to read. However it still gives a pretty damning view of the students.

    "attendees overwhelmingly rejected a motion calling for the commemoration of “all those whose lives have been affected by war across the University of Cambridge”"

    https://www.varsity.co.uk/news/16233

    Pretty damming in my opinion and not just something blown up by the media. These people are potential leaders!