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Jeremy Sarmiento (former U18 rising star) - now with Brighton (p6)

Redhenry
Redhenry Posts: 5,359
edited September 2021 in General Charlton
Heard hes gone to Benfica
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Lovely... Do we get compensation if he's gone abroad?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Lovely... Do we get compensation if he's gone abroad?

    I think not
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited September 2018
    Feared the worst when I saw the thread had been created by RedHenry

    http://www.estadio.ec/articulo/futbol-nacional/jeremy-sarmiento-ficha-por-el-benfica
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,820
    Oh, that will be a shame. Not even one first team appearance...
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Does that mention 6 million?
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    cafcfan1990 said:

    Does that mention 6 million?

    It says his market value is £6 mlion.

    We probably got a few hundred thousand in comp if we were lucky
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Benfica probably offered him as much free breakfast and bottled water as he wants
  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,867
    Fuck all loyalty these days.

    Defoe the 2nd right there.
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,411
    This is a big shame, highly regarded on here, Looks like well probably see him go onto bigger things, shame we haven't even seen him in the CAFC shirt
  • GreenWithEnvy
    GreenWithEnvy Posts: 1,841
    Oh FFS
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  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,274
    Not a surprise given he has not been featuring in the youth games this season that I saw lists for. How long was he with us I wonder? One of the many sad things about modern football is you simply cannot build a squad of talented youngsters and rise through the leagues as they go before you have the chance.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Must be demotivating for the academy coaches when their good players simply bugger off somewhere better.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    Fuck sake
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    A shame but there was only about 1% of me that ever expected to see him play for the first team.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    buckshee said:

    Fuck all loyalty these days.

    Defoe the 2nd right there.

    I don't get this attitude, he is a young kid who was offered the chance to play for a massive club in another country on presumably lots of money.

    Even as a huge Charlton fan I would be tempted. Good luck to him, I just hope we have a sell on clause that comes in after the rat departs.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Wonder what'll happen with his International career now, and whether he turns to Ecuador
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    buckshee said:

    Fuck all loyalty these days.

    Defoe the 2nd right there.

    It's his job, has nothing to do with loyalty.
    Can you explain why you are even talking about loyalty?
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Covered_End_Lad said:

    buckshee said:

    Fuck all loyalty these days.

    Defoe the 2nd right there.

    I don't get this attitude, he is a young kid who was offered the chance to play for a massive club in another country on presumably lots of money.

    Even as a huge Charlton fan I would be tempted. Good luck to him, I just hope we have a sell on clause that comes in after the rat departs.
    Not to mention a Champions League club with a lengthy history of developing and nurturing players. If he'd gone to West Ham I'd be annoyed because it would feel like something of a sideways move. But with Benfica he has the chance both to develop and know that they will play young players.

    It's unfortunate. Obviously I wish he'd stayed with us as I think he probably would have made his senior debut this season, but I also understand why going somewhere with elite facilities seems more enticing than what we currently have.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,791
    Aren't there rules about not nicking youngsters from outside your own development area?
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    AddicksAddict said:

    Aren't there rules about not nicking youngsters from outside your own development area?

    Isnt that an FA rule rather than a UEFA rule?
  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,867
    PopIcon said:

    buckshee said:

    Fuck all loyalty these days.

    Defoe the 2nd right there.

    It's his job, has nothing to do with loyalty.
    Can you explain why you are even talking about loyalty?
    Ah the old “it’s jist a job” clause. Got it.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    buckshee said:

    Fuck all loyalty these days.

    Defoe the 2nd right there.

    He's 16 and we're a club playing in league one who aren't even giving our kids bottled water and food at our training ground. He's been offered a contract by a European side known for developing talent no doubt on a lot more money than he's currently getting.

    Why should he show any loyalty? It's a job to him, he's probably not a fan.

    How much loyalty would you show your current employer if you were offered a job at a much bigger company on more money? My notice would be handed in tomorrow.
  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,867
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    buckshee said:

    Fuck all loyalty these days.

    Defoe the 2nd right there.

    He's 16 and we're a club playing in league one who aren't even giving our kids bottled water and food at our training ground. He's been offered a contract by a European side known for developing talent no doubt on a lot more money than he's currently getting.

    Why should he show any loyalty? It's a job to him, he's probably not a fan.

    How much loyalty would you show your current employer if you were offered a job at a much bigger company on more money? My notice would be handed in tomorrow.
    and again the next get out clause.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    buckshee said:

    Fuck all loyalty these days.

    Defoe the 2nd right there.

    He's 16 and we're a club playing in league one who aren't even giving our kids bottled water and food at our training ground.
    No wonder the kid left.

    Roland in trying to save a few pennies by stopping bottled water, might well have lost himself millions.

    Penny wise, pound foolish. That's you Roland, huh?

  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    Along with losing Alex Willis for nowt this is bad news for the Academy.

    In fact, the only good news about it is that it's bad news for Roland.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    buckshee said:

    Fuck all loyalty these days.

    Defoe the 2nd right there.

    He's 16 and we're a club playing in league one who aren't even giving our kids bottled water and food at our training ground. He's been offered a contract by a European side known for developing talent no doubt on a lot more money than he's currently getting.

    Why should he show any loyalty? It's a job to him, he's probably not a fan.

    How much loyalty would you show your current employer if you were offered a job at a much bigger company on more money? My notice would be handed in tomorrow.
    If he's under 17 he won't have a pro contract, so wouldn't have been on any money at all. I guess the regs are likely different in different countries?

    BTW, why anyone should even consider still being in Valley Gold is beyond comprehension. It just subsidises Roland and pays to train kids who then fuck off elsewhere. Madness.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    cafcfan said:

    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    buckshee said:

    Fuck all loyalty these days.

    Defoe the 2nd right there.

    He's 16 and we're a club playing in league one who aren't even giving our kids bottled water and food at our training ground. He's been offered a contract by a European side known for developing talent no doubt on a lot more money than he's currently getting.

    Why should he show any loyalty? It's a job to him, he's probably not a fan.

    How much loyalty would you show your current employer if you were offered a job at a much bigger company on more money? My notice would be handed in tomorrow.
    If he's under 17 he won't have a pro contract, so wouldn't have been on any money at all. I guess the regs are likely different in different countries?

    BTW, why anyone should even consider still being in Valley Gold is beyond comprehension. It just subsidises Roland and pays to train kids who then fuck off elsewhere. Madness.
    If you include Aribo and Dijksteel, who underwent at least part of their youth development at Charlton, then 7 of the matchday 18 on Saturday came through our youth system at one time of another. Admittedly Solly was several years ago now, but lets not act like the youth system serves no purpose just because not every single player that enters it comes out the other end.

    The club ditches players when they are deemed not good enough, if a player feels they have moved to level above and beyond what Charlton can currently offer, then why do they owe the club a level of loyalty it probably wouldn't show to the player?
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    Exiled_Addick said:

    cafcfan said:

    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    buckshee said:

    Fuck all loyalty these days.

    Defoe the 2nd right there.

    He's 16 and we're a club playing in league one who aren't even giving our kids bottled water and food at our training ground. He's been offered a contract by a European side known for developing talent no doubt on a lot more money than he's currently getting.

    Why should he show any loyalty? It's a job to him, he's probably not a fan.

    How much loyalty would you show your current employer if you were offered a job at a much bigger company on more money? My notice would be handed in tomorrow.
    If he's under 17 he won't have a pro contract, so wouldn't have been on any money at all. I guess the regs are likely different in different countries?

    BTW, why anyone should even consider still being in Valley Gold is beyond comprehension. It just subsidises Roland and pays to train kids who then fuck off elsewhere. Madness.
    If you include Aribo and Dijksteel, who underwent at least part of their youth development at Charlton, then 7 of the matchday 18 on Saturday came through our youth system at one time of another. Admittedly Solly was several years ago now, but lets not act like the youth system serves no purpose just because not every single player that enters it comes out the other end.

    The club ditches players when they are deemed not good enough, if a player feels they have moved to level above and beyond what Charlton can currently offer, then why do they owe the club a level of loyalty it probably wouldn't show to the player?
    So what? Where are we? Mid-table League One. As alternative would be to just scrap the youth set-up - like Brentford - because it's a mug's game made untenable by the FA and the Premier League. Spend the money instead on hoovering up players on the cheap that others have nurtured? Like Konsa. In any event, why should mug punters subsidise a billionaire's running costs? I'm sure they've got better things to be doing with their money.

    And they don't owe the club loyalty, that's not what I said.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,675
    I honestly think the rules on this type of poaching young players need changing.
    If a big club like Benfica can grab young academy players for next to nothing they will continue to do so.
    I would introduce a new rule something along the lines of.

    A. If you take the youngster it will cost you one million.
    Or.
    B.if you eventually sell the player the club he came from receives 50 % of the fee.
    That way smaller clubs would not be raped the way they are now.

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