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Erin Ersson

A truely inspiring young lady. But on a plane full of Swedes it had to be a pompous Brit telling her to 'sitdaaan'!!!
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  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    edited July 2018
    Cool...er..who?
    Ok just found out that she is another no nothing student with no concept of real life, but feels she can hold up an aircraft full of people, for no other reason than she has a big mouth and camera phone.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Good on her but i honestly don't know what i would've said if i was a fellow passenger. I hate flying, and anything that delays me getting off the plane i want to murder in the coldest bloods of a thousand winters.
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    edited July 2018
    A new signing?
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,221
    Remember her from Happy Days
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,912
    Respect for making a stand and whatever. But you have to be incredibly naive to think that he won't be stuck on the next plane out of there
  • We don't know anything about the circumstances of any of the people on the plane home, what if someone was flying to see a loved one for the last time, as Kentaddick has touched on there are lots of people who suffer whilst flying, what if that had caused someone to have a panic attack or worse? So yeah great one Erin.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034

    We don't know anything about the circumstances of any of the people on the plane home, what if someone was flying to see a loved one for the last time, as Kentaddick has touched on there are lots of people who suffer whilst flying, what if that had caused someone to have a panic attack or worse? So yeah great one Erin.

    What if delaying the flight meant that it got sucked into a vortex transporting all on board back to the times of the French Revolution and they were all somehow mistaken for King Louis and were guillotined to death? So yeah great one Erin.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,736
    Eh?
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,598
    Stupid cow should get a flying ban.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210

    A truely inspiring young lady. But on a plane full of Swedes it had to be a pompous Brit telling her to 'sitdaaan'!!!

    Say that again but replace “Brit” with African or Muslim, then compare which gets flagged more.
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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,978
    edited July 2018
    What evidence does she have that 'he will most likely be killed if he stays on this plane'?
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    what the fuck has it got to do with her? she should have been flung off the flight and banned from flying with the airline.

    bitch.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    I have no clue what this is about, can someone explain or post a link?
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Fire up Argument Alert, lads
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131

    I have no clue what this is about, can someone explain or post a link?

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    I have no clue what this is about, can someone explain or post a link?

    An Afghan was being deported from Sweden. Some young Dorris decided to start shooting and screaming ( and filming for Facebook obviously) and stopped the plane from flying.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102

    I have no clue what this is about, can someone explain or post a link?

    http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Erin+Ersson
  • She should be given a lengthy prison sentence for aviation offences. Stupid cow.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,978
    As the country heads towards a general election in September, Sweden’s centre-left coalition government is keen to keep up expulsions of asylum seekers whose applications have been turned down. “If you get rejected, you have to go home – otherwise we will not have a proper migration system,” the prime minister, Stefan Löfven, said last year after an Uzbek asylum seeker whose claim had been rejected drove a truck into shoppers in Stockholm, killing five people.

    After Taliban violence increased in January, the country briefly halted deportations to Afghanistan. But the Swedish migration board stands by its assessment that the country is a safe destination for asylum seekers whose claims have been turned down.


    From the Guardian.

    So his case was heard fairly, he wasn't granted Asylum but some little brat knows more, holds up a flight, ignores the instructions of the planes captain and causes more aggro.

    Lets hope she gets a fine and he's on his way home.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,810

    what the fuck has it got to do with her? she should have been flung off the flight and banned from flying with the airline.

    bitch.

    this - I'm amazed they let her rant and delay the plane by 2 hours.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Think the airline should do the decent thing here... and pass the cost of their delay fine to her

    She'll think twice before doing it again with the Airline now having a hefty bill to pay because someone thinks they know better
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  • As the country heads towards a general election in September, Sweden’s centre-left coalition government is keen to keep up expulsions of asylum seekers whose applications have been turned down. “If you get rejected, you have to go home – otherwise we will not have a proper migration system,” the prime minister, Stefan Löfven, said last year after an Uzbek asylum seeker whose claim had been rejected drove a truck into shoppers in Stockholm, killing five people.

    After Taliban violence increased in January, the country briefly halted deportations to Afghanistan. But the Swedish migration board stands by its assessment that the country is a safe destination for asylum seekers whose claims have been turned down.


    From the Guardian.

    So his case was heard fairly, he wasn't granted Asylum but some little brat knows more, holds up a flight, ignores the instructions of the planes captain and causes more aggro.

    Lets hope she gets a fine and he's on his way home.

    Laws are allowed to be broker by people if you look it look at it a certain way, you should know that by now.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210

    Think the airline should do the decent thing here... and pass the cost of their delay fine to her

    She'll think twice before doing it again with the Airline now having a hefty bill to pay because someone thinks they know better

    You’d see a huge and drastic reduction in virtue signalling and crocodile tears if it cost money.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,351
    Can she not be sent back with him? That'll teach her...
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039

    Respect for making a stand and whatever. But you have to be incredibly naive to think that he won't be stuck on the next plane out of there

    I suppose you do what you can when you can
    It's better to do something rather than nothing.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    iainment said:

    Respect for making a stand and whatever. But you have to be incredibly naive to think that he won't be stuck on the next plane out of there

    I suppose you do what you can when you can
    It's better to do something rather than nothing.
    not in this case it isn't
  • All seems pretty pointless.

    1. He'll just be deported another day.
    2. She'll probably get fined and/or imprisoned.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    Regardless of the right and wrong of it she hasn't actually done anything illegal (and researched beforehand to make sure she hadn't/wouldn't). Whether or not it should now be MADE a crime is open to discussion.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,978
    thenewbie said:

    Regardless of the right and wrong of it she hasn't actually done anything illegal (and researched beforehand to make sure she hadn't/wouldn't). Whether or not it should now be MADE a crime is open to discussion.

    She has insisted, both during the protest itself and in Facebook posts yesterday, that “no laws were broken” by her actions, adding: “This is a right in Sweden.”

    According to DW, though, the Swedish authorities think differently. Police said passengers who refuse to obey a pilot's orders while on board a plane can face fines or up to six months in jail
    .

  • CharltonMadrid
    CharltonMadrid Posts: 5,091
    edited July 2018
    I think it seems pretty idealistic as she probably doesn't know much about the actual case and he will probably be deported another day anyway, but I do think it's a good thing that people are prepared to stand up for what they believe. It's not exactly Tiananmen Square or the White Rose movement but I am sure there were people around those who criticized them for causing an inconvenience. I guess she has highlighted the issue and got people talking about it.
  • thenewbie said:

    Regardless of the right and wrong of it she hasn't actually done anything illegal (and researched beforehand to make sure she hadn't/wouldn't). Whether or not it should now be MADE a crime is open to discussion.

    She has insisted, both during the protest itself and in Facebook posts yesterday, that “no laws were broken” by her actions, adding: “This is a right in Sweden.”

    According to DW, though, the Swedish authorities think differently. Police said passengers who refuse to obey a pilot's orders while on board a plane can face fines or up to six months in jail
    .

    The point is that despite her requests, the pilot didn't come to speak to her let alone give her an order. Her only conversation was with a steward. As she said, the pilot could have ordered the deportee and minders off the plane and negated the 2hr delay but chose not to. Doubt he didn't get advice further up the food chain either.

    Disappointed in the CL response to this issue. Are we in support of HMG decision to send Afgan translators back to their homeland?