CARD calling for Charlton Athletic fans to boycott Valley if takeover deal is not done by August 4
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Absolutely, and not aimed at you personally, for that very reason.PragueAddick said:
They certainly do. That's why I have joined ROT as soon as it became a formal group, contributed financially, and am working on some practical support which if it becomes available could turbocharge the ROT election campaign.boggzy said:A lot of noise and semantics on this thread from groups who have done absolutely nothing during the past 12 months to try and rid Charlton of Duchâtelet. Unlike the likes of ROT/B20.
Actions speak louder than words.
But I thought you already knew that...
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For CARD to call for fans to boycott is totally wrong as it won't happen as to boycott is a personal decision, some of us will and some will not. Also in the final paragraph of the article on page 1 of this thread there is an ambiguity as to whether fans should support the team, surely the message should be "support the team not the regime".
I generally support CARD and have boycotted for the past 2 years but think they could have worded their statement a little better.
Finally I'm please to see that AB and Prague have buried the hatchet, but not in each other, as we need such luminaries of CL to be working together to get rid of the current regime.
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It will happen and has already been happening. Just as with any CARD organised protest at The Valley some people take part, some are supportive and can’t be bothered and others are opposed. To argue otherwise is to believe that CARD should never have called any protests because some people wouldn’t take part. Nobody is under any illusions that CARD’s position will empty the stadium, but it reflects the group’s view that if Duchatelet remains in charge the screw needs to be tightened.lancashire lad said:For CARD to call for fans to boycott is totally wrong as it won't happen as to boycott is a personal decision, some of us will and some will not. Also in the final paragraph of the article on page 1 of this thread there is an ambiguity as to whether fans should support the team, surely the message should be "support the team not the regime".
I generally support CARD and have boycotted for the past 2 years but think they could have worded their statement a little better.
Finally I'm please to see that AB and Prague have buried the hatchet, but not in each other, as we need such luminaries of CL to be working together to get rid of the current regime.9 -
I think it is as simple as that. We all have different ideas and thoughts of actions or non actions which we think would have the best effect. But sometimes unity is required and CARD have been instrumental in some very imaginative and successful protests to date. Support them or don't support them, but just accept they are entitled to provide suggestions to supporters on things like this.3
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AB - you misinterpret my argument , which is probably my fault for being inarticulate. I am not "arguing otherwise" but simply suggesting that the CARD statement could have been better worded, perhaps I am the articulate one and CARD isn't?0
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Maybe it could have, but it has been made. The point is, why have an argument?0
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I must admit that I have always been a little puzzled by the “ support the team not the regime “ tagline. If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?10
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You can do it by going to away games, attending £5 home games, somehow obtaining a free ticket and paying to attend when a major demo is planned - that’s how!Mametz said:I must admit that I have always been a little puzzled by the “ support the team not the regime “ tagline. If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?
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We're football fans, not members of a trade union. Until Roland appoints a new CEO and Finance officer I will assume that the alleged takeover will materialise at some point2
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Yeah I can see that ( although those five pounds mount up ) but what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price.lancashire lad said:
You can do it by going to away games, attending £5 home games, somehow obtaining a free ticket and paying to attend when a major demo is planned - that’s how!Mametz said:I must admit that I have always been a little puzzled by the “ support the team not the regime “ tagline. If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?
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You can understand how the leaders of the French and Russian Revolutions ended up killing each other!0
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Who was it that said something along the lies of 'each revolution ends up devouring it's own children'? (Probably French or Russian)0
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I don't know; what about them?Mametz said:
Yeah I can see that ( although those five pounds mount up ) but what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price.lancashire lad said:
You can do it by going to away games, attending £5 home games, somehow obtaining a free ticket and paying to attend when a major demo is planned - that’s how!Mametz said:I must admit that I have always been a little puzzled by the “ support the team not the regime “ tagline. If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?
You tell me.0 -
I don’t know.Redskin said:
I don't know; what about them?Mametz said:
Yeah I can see that ( although those five pounds mount up ) but what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price.lancashire lad said:
You can do it by going to away games, attending £5 home games, somehow obtaining a free ticket and paying to attend when a major demo is planned - that’s how!Mametz said:I must admit that I have always been a little puzzled by the “ support the team not the regime “ tagline. If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?
You tell me.
That is why I’m asking the question.3 -
Don't be coy, you said, 'If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?'Mametz said:
I don’t know.Redskin said:
I don't know; what about them?Mametz said:
Yeah I can see that ( although those five pounds mount up ) but what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price.lancashire lad said:
You can do it by going to away games, attending £5 home games, somehow obtaining a free ticket and paying to attend when a major demo is planned - that’s how!Mametz said:I must admit that I have always been a little puzzled by the “ support the team not the regime “ tagline. If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?
You tell me.
That is why I’m asking the question.0 -
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Personally I think Lee bowyer and the team should have as much support as possible.
What happens behind the scenes is out of their hands.0 -
I was saying that when we appointed Karel Fraeye.WasCharleyOne said:Personally I think Lee bowyer and the team should have as much support as possible.
What happens behind the scenes is out of their hands.4 - Sponsored links:
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I did say that. It is a question. The question mark at the end is a dead giveaway!Redskin said:
Don't be coy, you said, 'If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?'Mametz said:
I don’t know.Redskin said:
I don't know; what about them?Mametz said:
Yeah I can see that ( although those five pounds mount up ) but what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price.lancashire lad said:
You can do it by going to away games, attending £5 home games, somehow obtaining a free ticket and paying to attend when a major demo is planned - that’s how!Mametz said:I must admit that I have always been a little puzzled by the “ support the team not the regime “ tagline. If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?
You tell me.
That is why I’m asking the question.5 -
You then went on to say in your next post ' ...what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price' -no question mark -Mametz said:
I did say that. It is a question. The question mark at the end is a dead giveaway!Redskin said:
Don't be coy, you said, 'If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?'Mametz said:
I don’t know.Redskin said:
I don't know; what about them?Mametz said:
Yeah I can see that ( although those five pounds mount up ) but what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price.lancashire lad said:
You can do it by going to away games, attending £5 home games, somehow obtaining a free ticket and paying to attend when a major demo is planned - that’s how!Mametz said:I must admit that I have always been a little puzzled by the “ support the team not the regime “ tagline. If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?
You tell me.
That is why I’m asking the question.
which would suggest you think they are in some way complicit in the way that RD continues to run the club.
I am one of those who has paid full admission to support the team, so I imagine you think of me as one of those who 'spurt the mantra', ergo, I am an 'apologist' or whatever pejorative you choose to use.
If you want to wallow in your self- identifying martyrdom as a boycotter, go ahead, I don't care, but spare me and others who attend home games your sneery self-righteousness.
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And that is where your entire argument falls down.Redskin said:
You then went on to say in your next post ' ...what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price' -no question mark -Mametz said:
I did say that. It is a question. The question mark at the end is a dead giveaway!Redskin said:
Don't be coy, you said, 'If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?'Mametz said:
I don’t know.Redskin said:
I don't know; what about them?Mametz said:
Yeah I can see that ( although those five pounds mount up ) but what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price.lancashire lad said:
You can do it by going to away games, attending £5 home games, somehow obtaining a free ticket and paying to attend when a major demo is planned - that’s how!Mametz said:I must admit that I have always been a little puzzled by the “ support the team not the regime “ tagline. If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?
You tell me.
That is why I’m asking the question.
which would suggest you think they are in some way complicit in the way that RD continues to run the club.
I am one of those who has paid full admission to support the team, so I imagine you think of me as one of those who 'spurt the mantra', ergo, I am an 'apologist' or whatever pejorative you choose to use.
If you want to wallow in your self- identifying martyrdom as a boycotter, go ahead, I don't care, but spare me and others who attend home games your sneery self-righteousness.1 -
So going back to the original question about supporting the team, not the regime, do you believe that by paying full admission to attend matches you have not supported the regime?Redskin said:
You then went on to say in your next post ' ...what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price' -no question mark -Mametz said:
I did say that. It is a question. The question mark at the end is a dead giveaway!Redskin said:
Don't be coy, you said, 'If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?'Mametz said:
I don’t know.Redskin said:
I don't know; what about them?Mametz said:
Yeah I can see that ( although those five pounds mount up ) but what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price.lancashire lad said:
You can do it by going to away games, attending £5 home games, somehow obtaining a free ticket and paying to attend when a major demo is planned - that’s how!Mametz said:I must admit that I have always been a little puzzled by the “ support the team not the regime “ tagline. If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?
You tell me.
That is why I’m asking the question.
which would suggest you think they are in some way complicit in the way that RD continues to run the club.
I am one of those who has paid full admission to support the team, so I imagine you think of me as one of those who 'spurt the mantra', ergo, I am an 'apologist' or whatever pejorative you choose to use.
If you want to wallow in your self- identifying martyrdom as a boycotter, go ahead, I don't care, but spare me and others who attend home games your sneery self-righteousness.0 -
No, it doesn't. His meaning is writ large.Stig said:
And that is where your entire argument falls down.Redskin said:
You then went on to say in your next post ' ...what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price' -no question mark -Mametz said:
I did say that. It is a question. The question mark at the end is a dead giveaway!Redskin said:
Don't be coy, you said, 'If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?'Mametz said:
I don’t know.Redskin said:
I don't know; what about them?Mametz said:
Yeah I can see that ( although those five pounds mount up ) but what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price.lancashire lad said:
You can do it by going to away games, attending £5 home games, somehow obtaining a free ticket and paying to attend when a major demo is planned - that’s how!Mametz said:I must admit that I have always been a little puzzled by the “ support the team not the regime “ tagline. If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?
You tell me.
That is why I’m asking the question.
which would suggest you think they are in some way complicit in the way that RD continues to run the club.
I am one of those who has paid full admission to support the team, so I imagine you think of me as one of those who 'spurt the mantra', ergo, I am an 'apologist' or whatever pejorative you choose to use.
If you want to wallow in your self- identifying martyrdom as a boycotter, go ahead, I don't care, but spare me and others who attend home games your sneery self-righteousness.0 -
Ffs Roland is the enemy stop arguing with one another5
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What, exactly, do you consider the 'regime' to be?superclive98 said:
So going back to the original question about supporting the team, not the regime, do you believe that by paying full admission to attend matches you have not supported the regime?Redskin said:
You then went on to say in your next post ' ...what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price' -no question mark -Mametz said:
I did say that. It is a question. The question mark at the end is a dead giveaway!Redskin said:
Don't be coy, you said, 'If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?'Mametz said:
I don’t know.Redskin said:
I don't know; what about them?Mametz said:
Yeah I can see that ( although those five pounds mount up ) but what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price.lancashire lad said:
You can do it by going to away games, attending £5 home games, somehow obtaining a free ticket and paying to attend when a major demo is planned - that’s how!Mametz said:I must admit that I have always been a little puzzled by the “ support the team not the regime “ tagline. If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?
You tell me.
That is why I’m asking the question.
which would suggest you think they are in some way complicit in the way that RD continues to run the club.
I am one of those who has paid full admission to support the team, so I imagine you think of me as one of those who 'spurt the mantra', ergo, I am an 'apologist' or whatever pejorative you choose to use.
If you want to wallow in your self- identifying martyrdom as a boycotter, go ahead, I don't care, but spare me and others who attend home games your sneery self-righteousness.0 -
We'll miss Roland when he goes.blackpool72 said:Ffs Roland is the enemy stop arguing with one another
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The owner and his senior management team (when he had one), not the footballing staff/management.Redskin said:
What, exactly, do you consider the 'regime' to be?superclive98 said:
So going back to the original question about supporting the team, not the regime, do you believe that by paying full admission to attend matches you have not supported the regime?Redskin said:
You then went on to say in your next post ' ...what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price' -no question mark -Mametz said:
I did say that. It is a question. The question mark at the end is a dead giveaway!Redskin said:
Don't be coy, you said, 'If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?'Mametz said:
I don’t know.Redskin said:
I don't know; what about them?Mametz said:
Yeah I can see that ( although those five pounds mount up ) but what about the others, almost certainly the majority who spurt that mantra, who have STs or pay full admission price.lancashire lad said:
You can do it by going to away games, attending £5 home games, somehow obtaining a free ticket and paying to attend when a major demo is planned - that’s how!Mametz said:I must admit that I have always been a little puzzled by the “ support the team not the regime “ tagline. If you are giving your admission money to the club to do what it wants with that money how are you not, in some way, supporting the regime?
You tell me.
That is why I’m asking the question.
which would suggest you think they are in some way complicit in the way that RD continues to run the club.
I am one of those who has paid full admission to support the team, so I imagine you think of me as one of those who 'spurt the mantra', ergo, I am an 'apologist' or whatever pejorative you choose to use.
If you want to wallow in your self- identifying martyrdom as a boycotter, go ahead, I don't care, but spare me and others who attend home games your sneery self-righteousness.0
