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German dress knife help

shine166
shine166 Posts: 13,916
edited July 2018 in Not Sports Related
I know there's some war buffs on here so thought someone may be able to help. I got this from my grandad... whose dad brought it back from ww1. Can anyone here help me with any info on it for further research?

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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,991
    Popcorn at the ready.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,916
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  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,916
    Covered End said:

    Popcorn at the ready.

    What for ??
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    WW1 wasn't a Nazi war.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,916
    edited July 2018
    seth plum said:

    WW1 wasn't a Nazi war.

    Cool cheers, that's a start... I'm after help not snarky comments
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    shine166 said:

    I know there's some war buffs on here so thought someone may be able to help. I got this from my grandad... whose dad brought it back from ww1. Can anyone here help me with any info on it for further research?

    I can tell you one thing. If he picked it up during WWI it's not going to be a Nazi knife.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,916
    edited July 2018
    SantaClaus said:

    shine166 said:

    I know there's some war buffs on here so thought someone may be able to help. I got this from my grandad... whose dad brought it back from ww1. Can anyone here help me with any info on it for further research?

    I can tell you one thing. If he picked it up during WWI it's not going to be a Nazi knife.
    Yeah we've got that far hense the thread title change.. my mistake on the early usage of the 'Nazi' term.
  • Super_Eddie_Youds
    Super_Eddie_Youds Posts: 1,977
    Assume it was a Navy dress knife/dagger? The eagle and swastika would suggest later than WW1 wouldn't it?
  • Super_Eddie_Youds
    Super_Eddie_Youds Posts: 1,977
    might help?

    http://www.2-clicks-swords.com/article/german-daggers.html
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    shine166 said:

    seth plum said:

    WW1 wasn't a Nazi war.

    Cool cheers, that's a start... I'm after help not snarky comments
    Snarky?
    Sheesh.
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  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,916
    Sorry for the confusion, the info comes from my grandad that has just moved into a care home as he has dementia setting in at a shocking rate.

    Appoligise for me getting pissy too... just a tough time atm seeing him falling to pieces
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    Addickted may have some useful suggestions as he is something of a WW1 expert......though this kind of thing might not be in his field of knowledge.
    I’m thinking he may know someone who deals in this kind of artefact.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    edited July 2018
    Would it have been brought back from WW1 seeing that its got the Swaztika at the top of the pommel by the Eagle?
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    The manufacturer is still going.

    https://www.eickhorn-solingen.de
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    Super_Eddie_Youds said:

    might help?

    http://www.2-clicks-swords.com/article/german-daggers.html

    @shine166 your pic definitely looks like it is on the above link. It looks like a Nazi naval dagger to me. But who knows sorry your Grandad is in a bad way.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    @Greenie might know as he's got a bit of a collection around WW1 / WW2
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    yep 2nd vote for @Greenie knows his stuff.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    The swastika used to be a symbol for good luck, before the Nazi's adopted it.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    Looks very similar to this navy dagger. ibuyworldwar2.com/navy-dagger-eickhorn/
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    https://therupturedduck.com/products/exploring-the-dress-daggers-of-the-german-navy
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  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,916
    happyvalley said:

    The swastika used to be a symbol for good luck, before the Nazi's adopted it.

    Yes and changed the direction of the 'motion too. Saw loads in Bali when I was over there
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,916
    cafcfan said:

    Looks very similar to this navy dagger. ibuyworldwar2.com/navy-dagger-eickhorn/

    Think you're right... cheers to hive mind
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,617
    happyvalley said:

    The swastika used to be a symbol for good luck, before the Nazi's adopted it.

    Dry cleaning company in Dublin est 1912.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    It's definitely a WWII Nazi Germany's Kriegsmarine officer dagger.

    Are there no indications as to who the owner was or what branch of the Kriegsmarine it came from.?

    A Nazi Officers naval dagger from the Scharnhorst went for £12k at auction a few years ago - and the owner was only an Hauptmann.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    SantaClaus said:

    The manufacturer is still going.

    https://www.eickhorn-solingen.de

    Yeah, sorry, I'm going off piste here, but strangely as it leans heavily on its German heritage, it seems to be run by a Scot and to be a UK registered company! https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/01285633/officers
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,596
    guinnessaddick said:

    happyvalley said:

    The swastika used to be a symbol for good luck, before the Nazi's adopted it.

    Dry cleaning company in Dublin est 1912.
    Looks like a scene from Trumpton
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    DaveMehmet said:

    guinnessaddick said:

    happyvalley said:

    The swastika used to be a symbol for good luck, before the Nazi's adopted it.

    Dry cleaning company in Dublin est 1912.
    Looks like a scene from Trumpton
    Das Trumpton

  • A-R-T-H-U-R
    A-R-T-H-U-R Posts: 7,678
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    DaveMehmet said:

    guinnessaddick said:

    happyvalley said:

    The swastika used to be a symbol for good luck, before the Nazi's adopted it.

    Dry cleaning company in Dublin est 1912.
    Looks like a scene from Trumpton
    Das Trumpton

    They won't catch us this time! Not this time! They haven't spotted us! No, they're all snoring in their bunks! Or, you know what? They're drinking at the bar, celebrating our sinking! Not yet, my friends. Not yet!
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    As a collector, I avoid German WW2 daggers like the plague. This is a ww2 kriegsmarine (navy) dagger, if it was ww1, I understand that it would have two squirrels back to back as part of the logo.
    The reason I avoid them is that there are so many fakes, I mean seriously good fakes, that even the most knowledgable collectors get burned, when we had our militaria shop we would not touch them, same goes for Hitler Youth knives.
    So if you wanted to know if its genuine, and if it is, its certainly worth a few quid, I will need a complete set of photographs and I will send them to a few specialists collectors that I know and get a value.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    shine166 said:

    I know there's some war buffs on here so thought someone may be able to help. I got this from my grandad... whose dad brought it back from ww1. Can anyone here help me with any info on it for further research?

    Sorry to learn of your grandads I’ll health.

    Might I ask his age ? Seems unlikely that he brought it back from WW1 ?

    Would also seem to be a WW2 item.

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