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England V Panama- 1PM Kick off

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304

    The hysteria over England is plain embarrassing - have to reserve any judgement until we've played Belgium.

    Dont think there's been any hysteria... More shock as you can lose count of the times we've struggled to beat this sort of side, instead yesterday we absolutely demolished them
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017

    Jordan Henderson ran 10.06km against Panama, 1km more than any other player on the pitch, in 32-degree heat.

    He completed 91% of his 72 passes attempted, won all four of his aerial duels and wasn't dispossessed once.

    He's done very well so far. No complaints from me at all. Looking like he's taken his game up a level.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    JohnBoyUK said:

    Jordan Henderson ran 10.06km against Panama, 1km more than any other player on the pitch, in 32-degree heat.

    He completed 91% of his 72 passes attempted, won all four of his aerial duels and wasn't dispossessed once.

    He's done very well so far. No complaints from me at all. Looking like he's taken his game up a level.
    Agreed. Not his biggest fan but he's had a great season and is starting to move the ball forwards now - which was my biggest criticism of him. Good to see him getting a few shots away too.
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,436

    DRAddick said:

    Great victory! Congratulations England! Absolutely love the second goal by Stones. Fantastic teamwork. Well done.

    Seriously Jessie, just move over here and become a full time Charlton and England fan :smile:
    You have no idea how many times I've thought dreamed about that over the years :lol: Apart from football (a big part of my life) I have other hobbies and many of them are Britain related. I have a long list of British bands I wish to see live. I also like musicals. If I got to move to England I wouldn't be worrying about being single, not being able to find a boyfriend at 31 and stuff like that! :joy: I'd have plenty things to enjoy, great activities to take part in and meet lots of people with similar hobbies/interests...
    If you do move over here, you should live up North. You already speak better English than 95% of the people who live up here...
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    We won 6-1. SIX ONE. You can say the opposition weren't great, but the same can be said about our WC opposition going back 60 years, where we've also played weak teams and often struggled. As the cliche goes

    "There are no easy games in football"

    It doesn't mean we're world beaters who are going to smash every other team and come home with the trophy, but it does give some optimism for the future.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    "Lets wait to see how good we are against Belgium"

    Belgium play a weaker side....

    "Well done on beating Belgium reserves"
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017
    I remember in the 80s we beat Turkey 8-0, 5-0, 8-0 and of course the San Marino 1-7 but cant remember a higher scoring England game than that. Any one remember any others?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    JohnBoyUK said:

    I remember in the 80s we beat Turkey 8-0, 5-0, 8-0 and of course the San Marino 1-7 but cant remember a higher scoring England game than that. Any one remember any others?

    9-0 against Luxembourg in 1982
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017

    JohnBoyUK said:

    I remember in the 80s we beat Turkey 8-0, 5-0, 8-0 and of course the San Marino 1-7 but cant remember a higher scoring England game than that. Any one remember any others?

    9-0 against Luxembourg in 1982
    Oh yea, they mentioned it yesterday. We knocked 13 past Northern Ireland in 1882 as well apparently :)
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    JohnBoyUK said:

    I remember in the 80s we beat Turkey 8-0, 5-0, 8-0 and of course the San Marino 1-7 but cant remember a higher scoring England game than that. Any one remember any others?

    San Marino away 8-0 in 2013, Andorra 6-0 in 2009.
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    edited June 2018
    The 8th by Hoddle was a decent finish

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abBGQgAA7bE
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017
    Blimey, was Gary Mabbutt playing centre-mid?! Knew he played there in his early days for Spurs but assumed his England appearances were at CB!
  • JohnBoyUK said:

    Blimey, was Gary Mabbutt playing centre-mid?! Knew he played there in his early days for Spurs but assumed his England appearances were at CB!

    If we beat them 9-0 i'd imagine even our keeper was playing the holding midfield role
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    JohnBoyUK said:

    Jordan Henderson ran 10.06km against Panama, 1km more than any other player on the pitch, in 32-degree heat.

    He completed 91% of his 72 passes attempted, won all four of his aerial duels and wasn't dispossessed once.

    He's done very well so far. No complaints from me at all. Looking like he's taken his game up a level.
    Agreed - never thought I'd be saying we should rest Henderson in the next game to save him for the more important ones, but we should.
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958
    My son was there in Nizny Novgorod - luck so and so - some sort of reward for the last 13 years loyally following Charlton I presume! Not sure what my reward will be?
  • EastStand
    EastStand Posts: 4,109
    sm said:

    My son was there in Nizny Novgorod - luck so and so - some sort of reward for the last 13 years loyally following Charlton I presume! Not sure what my reward will be?

    You were alive when we lifted the People's Cup, what more do you want?!
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    EastStand said:

    sm said:

    My son was there in Nizny Novgorod - luck so and so - some sort of reward for the last 13 years loyally following Charlton I presume! Not sure what my reward will be?

    You were alive when we lifted the People's Cup, what more do you want?!
    Not to mention retaining the Crown Paints trophy against welling.
  • YTS1978
    YTS1978 Posts: 1,701

    Jordan Henderson ran 10.06km against Panama, 1km more than any other player on the pitch, in 32-degree heat.

    He completed 91% of his 72 passes attempted, won all four of his aerial duels and wasn't dispossessed once.

    I thought henderson was excellent. I never thought I’d find myself saying that! Like a previous poster, I liked the way he was so pissed off when his volley dropped just wide!
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    Our set pieces have been fantastic. We look dangerous at every dead ball situation, apart from maybe direct free kicks where Trippier is over them. We have pace in the side throughout. I'd like another ball carrier in the midfield. I'd like Sterling disposed of and Rashford brought in because he's far better in front of goal. I'd like Rose to replace Young as it would give us more balance.

    However, we must genuinely be happier seeing those type of performances than what we have been served up over the last twenty two years!
  • supaclive said:

    Our set pieces have been fantastic. We look dangerous at every dead ball situation, apart from maybe direct free kicks where Trippier is over them. We have pace in the side throughout. I'd like another ball carrier in the midfield. I'd like Sterling disposed of and Rashford brought in because he's far better in front of goal. I'd like Rose to replace Young as it would give us more balance.

    However, we must genuinely be happier seeing those type of performances than what we have been served up over the last twenty two years!

    Hard to say if that's down to us or the oppositions dreadful defending though. I don't see Belgium and (maybe) Colombia giving the likes of Kane and Stones a spare 5 yards to themselves like Tunisia and Panama did.
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  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,206

    Solidgone said:

    I fell of a ladder yesterday and watching from a hospital bed. A new viewing position for me

    That's not good mate.
    Get well soon
    Thanks #blackpool72 discharged from hospital today.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    edited June 2018
    I think it’s great that’s England fans are getting excited. We have always had the players capable of winning major tournaments but they have never come close to fulfilling against potential.

    We now have a team that do seem capable of actually delivering against potential.

    Why is it so hard for people to recognise that there lies the obvious reason why England fans are feeling optimistic?
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,588
    cafctom said:

    I think it’s great that’s England fans are getting excited. We have always had the players capable of winning major tournaments but they have never come close to fulfilling against potential.

    We now have a team that do seem capable of actually delivering against potential.

    Why is it so hard for people to recognise that there lies the obvious reason why England fans are feeling optimistic?

    I agree, nothing wrong with us feeling happy and optimistic. Unfortunately our media go ott all the time, either positive or negative, and that's what others see and remember and think that's what we're actually like.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,242
    I'm happy with the undulated happiness surrounding the national team currently. We've played two weak teams and beaten them deservedly and convincingly. What were the players meant to do against Panama? Not score, they dipped their bread and good on them

    Belgium is going to be a different proposition but nobody attacks or makes use of a set play like we have so far and I think that will give us a few more goals to celebrate and the millenials to not live in the moment and video everyone going apeshit when we do get a 98th minute winner against Japan in the next round
  • YTS1978 said:

    Jordan Henderson ran 10.06km against Panama, 1km more than any other player on the pitch, in 32-degree heat.

    He completed 91% of his 72 passes attempted, won all four of his aerial duels and wasn't dispossessed once.

    I thought henderson was excellent. I never thought I’d find myself saying that! Like a previous poster, I liked the way he was so pissed off when his volley dropped just wide!
    Lot of talk on how Klopp's coaching has turned Henderson into a far better player, than before.

    Has been told that it is not enough for a CM to play it safe and retain possession in their own half, need to move the ball forward quickly, by either hitting space or finding the feet of strikers dropping deep.

    Very obvious to me, that he is much more ambitious passer now than before, which is probably why he is ahead of Dier.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Carter said:

    I'm happy with the undulated happiness surrounding the national team currently. We've played two weak teams and beaten them deservedly and convincingly. What were the players meant to do against Panama? Not score, they dipped their bread and good on them

    Belgium is going to be a different proposition but nobody attacks or makes use of a set play like we have so far and I think that will give us a few more goals to celebrate and the millenials to not live in the moment and video everyone going apeshit when we do get a 98th minute winner against Japan in the next round

    Looking forward to our set pieces against the bigger teams

    From now on our opponents will be no mugs and will have scouted our set pieces in depth and will be training properly over the coming days to counter them accordingly - At the same time I dont expect Southgate to be naive enough to expect them to continue to work they way we've put the ball in the box so fully expecting them to be varied
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    JohnBoyUK said:

    Jordan Henderson ran 10.06km against Panama, 1km more than any other player on the pitch, in 32-degree heat.

    He completed 91% of his 72 passes attempted, won all four of his aerial duels and wasn't dispossessed once.

    He's done very well so far. No complaints from me at all. Looking like he's taken his game up a level.
    I have never rated Henderson. Delighted to see him playing so well. He seems like a real leader on the pitch. Calling the huddle before the well-worked free kick goal against Panama, and I caught him telling Trippier to calm down during the Tunisia game, when Trippier was having a bit of a mad spell. He gives the team a spine and we'd be a lot weaker without him.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    I agree that the only change i'd like to see is rashford on for sterling. Sterling might be a good player to bring in in the knockouts, specifically if we've gone to extra time, his quick footwork could unlock tired defences.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    edited June 2018

    Carter said:

    I'm happy with the undulated happiness surrounding the national team currently. We've played two weak teams and beaten them deservedly and convincingly. What were the players meant to do against Panama? Not score, they dipped their bread and good on them

    Belgium is going to be a different proposition but nobody attacks or makes use of a set play like we have so far and I think that will give us a few more goals to celebrate and the millenials to not live in the moment and video everyone going apeshit when we do get a 98th minute winner against Japan in the next round

    Looking forward to our set pieces against the bigger teams

    From now on our opponents will be no mugs and will have scouted our set pieces in depth and will be training properly over the coming days to counter them accordingly - At the same time I dont expect Southgate to be naive enough to expect them to continue to work they way we've put the ball in the box so fully expecting them to be varied
    True, but Spain just couldn't handle Morocco last night - I think we'd cause them a few problems.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,242

    Carter said:

    I'm happy with the undulated happiness surrounding the national team currently. We've played two weak teams and beaten them deservedly and convincingly. What were the players meant to do against Panama? Not score, they dipped their bread and good on them

    Belgium is going to be a different proposition but nobody attacks or makes use of a set play like we have so far and I think that will give us a few more goals to celebrate and the millenials to not live in the moment and video everyone going apeshit when we do get a 98th minute winner against Japan in the next round

    Looking forward to our set pieces against the bigger teams

    From now on our opponents will be no mugs and will have scouted our set pieces in depth and will be training properly over the coming days to counter them accordingly - At the same time I dont expect Southgate to be naive enough to expect them to continue to work they way we've put the ball in the box so fully expecting them to be varied
    True, but Spain just couldn't handle Morocco last night - I think we'd cause them a few problems.
    When we had Beckham in the side we got tons of goals from set pieces and corners. Nobody is going to say Trippiers delivery is Beckham class, he's getting the ball in the right areas though and that is something we have lacked since on a consistent basis since Becks retired.

    Continental centre halves and defenders in general don't like defending dead ball deliveries, it's probably why they go mad for all the soppy wrestling. English players thrive off them and now we have some players who not only want to attack the ball but are good at it too we have a genuine game breaker