England v Tunisia

Daddy_Pig said:

bobmunro said:

Daddy_Pig said:

Thought England did well. Could have easily been another Iceland but they plugged away and got a deserved win.

My biggest frustration however is switching play. If you have a player on the far aode of the pitch in acres of space why do we still make 4 passes to switch when one will do. Just allows the opposition to saunter across the pitxh holding shape.

Because there's no Beckham or Scholes in the team who can ping 50 yard passes and land them on a sixpence. Henderson did a couple last night before reverting to square or back passes.

Surely England footballers can pass from one side of the pitch to the other when the winger is in acres of space though? Im not talking 60 yard diagonals onto a run a here

RedChaser said:

Chippycafc said:

RedChaser said:

Chippycafc said:

Woeful but we won...years ago the premier league was supposed to be set up to enhance our chances in these competitions. ..try telling those two man utd pratts playing up front....Pathetic..we are going backwards...club before country.

Sterling plays for Citeh though Chippy

And rash and lind doo too hey

Lingard's finishing let him down but Rashford was a game changer when he came on and should start the next game.

The Red Robin said:

Greenie said:

I really enjoyed the game. We play some good football and should have been way ahead, never mind the two pen shouts, it transpires that the VAR team advised the ref to view, but he chose not to???

Positives
Kane (two strikers goals), blinding header from Stones as well.
Trippier was excellent, MOM for me.
Henderson made some great passes.
Harry Mcguire had a very good game, even though he looks like someones dad who has turned up for a game.
Rashford changed the game when he came on.
Southgate tactics and post match analysis was spot on IMHO.

Negs
Stirling should never wear the shirt ever again, absolutely dog shit, he has fooled a lot of people, not strong enough with his back to goal, and looks to hit the ground when challenged, also his lack of football brain means he constantly runs up cul de sacs. Rashford must start the next one.
VAR - or rather an arrogant ref who refused to take a look, FIFA must kick him up the arse.
Ashley Young, not convinced, Danny Rose on for next game.

Overall a very pleasing start, loads of chances created, yep we got a well deserved late winner, but really should have wrapped it up by half-time, but this is England and its never dull is it.

Harsh. He's not a forward. I'd be tempted to experiment with him deeper, maybe rest Dele for the next game and get Rashford in.

Croydon said:

Elthamaddick said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Would make 2 changes for Panama.

Rose in for Young. I don't think Young gets down the line or overlaps enough. Rose will.

Rashford in for Sterling. If the Germans can leave Sane out for not performing well enough at international level then why do we need to keep playing Sterling? 2 goals in 39 caps isn't good enough.

Let's face it we dominated the first 45 minutes and should've been 2 or 3 up at half time so despite the dire second half i don't think we need drastic changes.

agree with this + I would drop McGuire for Cahill

Eh? Maguire's strength in the air led to both of our goals. He caused them issues from every single set piece and went forward with real impetus. Grew into the game and for me was one of the stand out performers along with Trippier.

colthe3rd said:

blackpool72 said:

colthe3rd said:

There's definitely a (possibly unconscious) bias towards Sterling. The Sun have done a great job.

Not sure last night's performance had anything to do with the sun.
It's just that most people think Rashford offers more to the team.

Don't get me wrong I don't think he was great last night but was nowhere near our worst performer. There seems to be a certain level of vitriol directed at him, I wouldn't change for the next game. Possibly change a couple of others but given he has performed very well in the league over the past year I'd be willing to give him a go against Panama.

Chunes said:

Sterling is a key player in 'the best ever premier league team'. He was the 5th top scorer in the league last season AND got the most assists out of the top 15. His ability is beyond doubt. Anyone questioning it I would question whether their problem is with his football or with him.

Last night he looked scared to make a mistake. Stopped running at defenders when he could have taken them on. I suppose when you've had the press on your back and when you know a certain amount of England fans have it out for you, might be quite reasonable to feel that way. I hope Southgate tells him he needs to toughen up mentally and realise he is a top, top player and sod everyone else and he might start replicating his form on the international stage.

Greenie said:

The Red Robin said:

Greenie said:

I really enjoyed the game. We play some good football and should have been way ahead, never mind the two pen shouts, it transpires that the VAR team advised the ref to view, but he chose not to???

Positives
Kane (two strikers goals), blinding header from Stones as well.
Trippier was excellent, MOM for me.
Henderson made some great passes.
Harry Mcguire had a very good game, even though he looks like someones dad who has turned up for a game.
Rashford changed the game when he came on.
Southgate tactics and post match analysis was spot on IMHO.

Negs
Stirling should never wear the shirt ever again, absolutely dog shit, he has fooled a lot of people, not strong enough with his back to goal, and looks to hit the ground when challenged, also his lack of football brain means he constantly runs up cul de sacs. Rashford must start the next one.
VAR - or rather an arrogant ref who refused to take a look, FIFA must kick him up the arse.
Ashley Young, not convinced, Danny Rose on for next game.

Overall a very pleasing start, loads of chances created, yep we got a well deserved late winner, but really should have wrapped it up by half-time, but this is England and its never dull is it.

Harsh. He's not a forward. I'd be tempted to experiment with him deeper, maybe rest Dele for the next game and get Rashford in.

@The Red Robin - fair enough, maybe. However Im a little biased when it comes to Stirling and his lack of ability in front of goal

Garrymanilow said:

Greenie said:

The Red Robin said:

Greenie said:

I really enjoyed the game. We play some good football and should have been way ahead, never mind the two pen shouts, it transpires that the VAR team advised the ref to view, but he chose not to???

Positives
Kane (two strikers goals), blinding header from Stones as well.
Trippier was excellent, MOM for me.
Henderson made some great passes.
Harry Mcguire had a very good game, even though he looks like someones dad who has turned up for a game.
Rashford changed the game when he came on.
Southgate tactics and post match analysis was spot on IMHO.

Negs
Stirling should never wear the shirt ever again, absolutely dog shit, he has fooled a lot of people, not strong enough with his back to goal, and looks to hit the ground when challenged, also his lack of football brain means he constantly runs up cul de sacs. Rashford must start the next one.
VAR - or rather an arrogant ref who refused to take a look, FIFA must kick him up the arse.
Ashley Young, not convinced, Danny Rose on for next game.

Overall a very pleasing start, loads of chances created, yep we got a well deserved late winner, but really should have wrapped it up by half-time, but this is England and its never dull is it.

Harsh. He's not a forward. I'd be tempted to experiment with him deeper, maybe rest Dele for the next game and get Rashford in.

@The Red Robin - fair enough, maybe. However Im a little biased when it comes to Stirling and his lack of ability in front of goal

23 goals last season for City, ahead of Gabriel Jesus, Sane, De Bruyne and everyone except Aguero despite not being a striker. He's certainly capable of putting the ball away, hopefully he'll get started soon.

Greenie said:

colthe3rd said:

Garrymanilow said:

Greenie said:

The Red Robin said:

Greenie said:

I really enjoyed the game. We play some good football and should have been way ahead, never mind the two pen shouts, it transpires that the VAR team advised the ref to view, but he chose not to???

Positives
Kane (two strikers goals), blinding header from Stones as well.
Trippier was excellent, MOM for me.
Henderson made some great passes.
Harry Mcguire had a very good game, even though he looks like someones dad who has turned up for a game.
Rashford changed the game when he came on.
Southgate tactics and post match analysis was spot on IMHO.

Negs
Stirling should never wear the shirt ever again, absolutely dog shit, he has fooled a lot of people, not strong enough with his back to goal, and looks to hit the ground when challenged, also his lack of football brain means he constantly runs up cul de sacs. Rashford must start the next one.
VAR - or rather an arrogant ref who refused to take a look, FIFA must kick him up the arse.
Ashley Young, not convinced, Danny Rose on for next game.

Overall a very pleasing start, loads of chances created, yep we got a well deserved late winner, but really should have wrapped it up by half-time, but this is England and its never dull is it.

Harsh. He's not a forward. I'd be tempted to experiment with him deeper, maybe rest Dele for the next game and get Rashford in.

@The Red Robin - fair enough, maybe. However Im a little biased when it comes to Stirling and his lack of ability in front of goal

23 goals last season for City, ahead of Gabriel Jesus, Sane, De Bruyne and everyone except Aguero despite not being a striker. He's certainly capable of putting the ball away, hopefully he'll get started soon.

Nonsense mate, Greenie from the internet says he's shit.

As ever, good to see you hanging on my every word @colthe3rd, would you like a signed photo?
You could put it in pride of place at the shrine to me that you obviously have.....!

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Greenie said:

colthe3rd said:

Garrymanilow said:

Greenie said:

The Red Robin said:

Greenie said:

I really enjoyed the game. We play some good football and should have been way ahead, never mind the two pen shouts, it transpires that the VAR team advised the ref to view, but he chose not to???

Positives
Kane (two strikers goals), blinding header from Stones as well.
Trippier was excellent, MOM for me.
Henderson made some great passes.
Harry Mcguire had a very good game, even though he looks like someones dad who has turned up for a game.
Rashford changed the game when he came on.
Southgate tactics and post match analysis was spot on IMHO.

Negs
Stirling should never wear the shirt ever again, absolutely dog shit, he has fooled a lot of people, not strong enough with his back to goal, and looks to hit the ground when challenged, also his lack of football brain means he constantly runs up cul de sacs. Rashford must start the next one.
VAR - or rather an arrogant ref who refused to take a look, FIFA must kick him up the arse.
Ashley Young, not convinced, Danny Rose on for next game.

Overall a very pleasing start, loads of chances created, yep we got a well deserved late winner, but really should have wrapped it up by half-time, but this is England and its never dull is it.

Harsh. He's not a forward. I'd be tempted to experiment with him deeper, maybe rest Dele for the next game and get Rashford in.

@The Red Robin - fair enough, maybe. However Im a little biased when it comes to Stirling and his lack of ability in front of goal

23 goals last season for City, ahead of Gabriel Jesus, Sane, De Bruyne and everyone except Aguero despite not being a striker. He's certainly capable of putting the ball away, hopefully he'll get started soon.

Nonsense mate, Greenie from the internet says he's shit.

As ever, good to see you hanging on my every word @colthe3rd, would you like a signed photo?
You could put it in pride of place at the shrine to me that you obviously have.....!

I have a feeling he's gonna want a special kind of photo.

Chunes said:

When the Tunisia player refused to move back from the free kick for about 30 seconds, with Walker and Young both pointing it out to the ref who did nothing. And then when Young did finally take it, the Tunisian player running towards him to put it off... And he STILL didn't get a booking. Really summed up who's side the ref was on last night.