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2018 FIFA World Cup Thread

ValleyGary
ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
in Other Football and Sports
Just 30 days to go until Russia take on Saudi Arabia to kick off the best month of sport anywhere in the world.

Southgate names is provisional 23 man squad tomorrow. Any late suprises?

Brazil have named Neymar in there’s, although how match fit he is will remain unclear.

Neaur has been ruled out for Germany, although their squad depth is frightening.

Can’t wait.
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  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,810
    Hart out and Pope in the Eng squad it seems
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Already got three ex-Charlton Players at the World Cup with Gudmundsson | Gislasson | Reza all picked

    If Pope and Shelvey go, could this be the most we've seen Charlton "represented" at the World Cup?
  • Indigo Joe
    Indigo Joe Posts: 551
    Pope and Shelvey deserve to go on merit. Pope may be 3rd choice but there's no point taking Hart as he'd also be behind Pickford and Butland. Might as well take a young talented keeper as 3rd choice as opposed to a spent force.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    has Southgate really overlooked Kaikai? Outrageous.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,733
    Elthamaddick said:

    Hart out and Pope in the Eng squad it seems

    I’d be surprised if that was the case .
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Indigo Joe said:

    Pope and Shelvey deserve to go on merit. Pope may be 3rd choice but there's no point taking Hart as he'd also be behind Pickford and Butland. Might as well take a young talented keeper as 3rd choice as opposed to a spent force.

    There has been talk that Hart should go to add experience to the Goalkeepers and act purely as third choice, yet surely if he cares enough - Just take him in an advisory role and not on the actual Playing Staff

    Shelvey should definitely go... His temperament isnt an issue (hasnt been booked for months) and has the ability to pass it forwards - All other Midfielders can either drive forwards with the ball or pass sideways, something that could become very easy for opponents to defend against...

    Read something this morning saying he doesnt have the Defensive side to his game and could cost us at this sort of level, yet you have to wonder how Italy have done over the years with the likes of Pirlo, he didnt exactly defend either
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    Gutted that’s Gomez is injured and won’t make it as I think he would’ve started.

    How I see it, with maybe a couple of changes..?

    Pickford, Butland, Pope

    Walker, Trippier, Stones, Maguire, Jones, Keane, Young, Bertrand

    Dier, Henderson, Delph, Shelvey, Wilshere, Loftus-Cheek, Alli, Sterling, Lingard

    Kane, Vardy, Rashford
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
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    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
  • Daddy_Pig
    Daddy_Pig Posts: 496
    ValleyGary said:

    Wouldn't have any of that front line at Charlton
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  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    Really struggling to muster the enthusiasm to the point of apathy but no doubt I'll get right into when it starts and feel really disappointed when it's all over too quickly just as I had begun to enjoy it.

    A lot like married sex in this respect.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,002
    ValleyGary said:

    Argentina's attacking options are ridiculous but as ever their keepers and defence are suspect. And since when was Salvio a defender? Pretty sure he's a wide attacking player.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    Would rather see us take Sessegnon and Sancho than washed up players like Walcott and Cahill.
  • Indigo Joe
    Indigo Joe Posts: 551
    Gabriel Marcotti in The Times the other day wrote that Argentina have so many quality forwards to pick from that Aguero may not make their squad. A guy at Boca Juniors has apparently scored 30 in 33 games and whilst their domestic league may not match the Premiership he'd get the 'popular' vote if it came down to a choice between those two for a final spot.

    Meanwhile we pray that Harry Kane remains fit and in top form.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    ValleyGary said:

    Argentina's attacking options are ridiculous but as ever their keepers and defence are suspect. And since when was Salvio a defender? Pretty sure he's a wide attacking player.
    Can see them coming unstuck against well organised sides like Iceland and Croatia on the counter attack.
  • Indigo Joe
    Indigo Joe Posts: 551
    Indigo Joe said:

    Gabriel Marcotti in The Times the other day wrote that Argentina have so many quality forwards to pick from that Aguero may not make their squad. A guy at Boca Juniors has apparently scored 30 in 33 games and whilst their domestic league may not match the Premiership he'd get the 'popular' vote if it came down to a choice between those two for a final spot.

    Meanwhile we pray that Harry Kane remains fit and in top form.

    Ha! and as soon as I post that Aguero is named in their squad..still an embarrassment of riches to what we have.
  • Ross
    Ross Posts: 4,409
    edited May 2018
    Sage said:

    Gutted that’s Gomez is injured and won’t make it as I think he would’ve started.

    How I see it, with maybe a couple of changes..?

    Pickford, Butland, Pope

    Walker, Trippier, Stones, Maguire, Jones, Keane, Young, Bertrand

    Dier, Henderson, Delph, Shelvey, Wilshere, Loftus-Cheek, Alli, Sterling, Lingard

    Kane, Vardy, Rashford

    Possibly Smalling in for Keane. Would Lallana come in for Shelvey or Loftus-Cheek if Southgate doesn't take one of them? Other than that I'd have to agree.

    The starting XI on the other hand.....
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,002
    Indigo Joe said:

    Indigo Joe said:

    Gabriel Marcotti in The Times the other day wrote that Argentina have so many quality forwards to pick from that Aguero may not make their squad. A guy at Boca Juniors has apparently scored 30 in 33 games and whilst their domestic league may not match the Premiership he'd get the 'popular' vote if it came down to a choice between those two for a final spot.

    Meanwhile we pray that Harry Kane remains fit and in top form.

    Ha! and as soon as I post that Aguero is named in their squad..still an embarrassment of riches to what we have.
    That's their provisional squad, so he could still be left out of the 23.

    I read before that Icardi is likely to get the chop, mainly because he had an affair with the wife of Maxi Lopez, and although she's now married to Icardi, Messi who is good mates with Maxi hasn't forgiven him. So whether Messi let's Icardi into the group probably depends on his selection. Pretty much the reason why icardi only has only 4 caps at the age of 25
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Wasnt there a strong chance of Dybala being dropped too as they seem him as too similar to Messi in style?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44109210

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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,002
    Indigo Joe said:

    Gabriel Marcotti in The Times the other day wrote that Argentina have so many quality forwards to pick from that Aguero may not make their squad. A guy at Boca Juniors has apparently scored 30 in 33 games and whilst their domestic league may not match the Premiership he'd get the 'popular' vote if it came down to a choice between those two for a final spot.

    Meanwhile we pray that Harry Kane remains fit and in top form.

    Benedetto. He's been out injured since November so not been named in the squad.
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Wasnt there a strong chance of Dybala being dropped too as they seem him as too similar to Messi in style?

    Potentially but surely you have to take him, even if it's as plan B or if Messi gets injured.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,002
    Must be very disheartening for Germany to lose Neuer and only be able to call on Ter Stegen as a replacement. How will they cope?!
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Indigo Joe said:

    Pope and Shelvey deserve to go on merit. Pope may be 3rd choice but there's no point taking Hart as he'd also be behind Pickford and Butland. Might as well take a young talented keeper as 3rd choice as opposed to a spent force.

    I think countries should be allowed to take as many keepers as they want as additions to a squad of 20.
  • bazjonster
    bazjonster Posts: 2,875
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Indigo Joe said:

    Pope and Shelvey deserve to go on merit. Pope may be 3rd choice but there's no point taking Hart as he'd also be behind Pickford and Butland. Might as well take a young talented keeper as 3rd choice as opposed to a spent force.

    There has been talk that Hart should go to add experience to the Goalkeepers and act purely as third choice, yet surely if he cares enough - Just take him in an advisory role and not on the actual Playing Staff

    Shelvey should definitely go... His temperament isnt an issue (hasnt been booked for months) and has the ability to pass it forwards - All other Midfielders can either drive forwards with the ball or pass sideways, something that could become very easy for opponents to defend against...

    Read something this morning saying he doesnt have the Defensive side to his game and could cost us at this sort of level, yet you have to wonder how Italy have done over the years with the likes of Pirlo, he didnt exactly defend either
    That's because Pirlo consistently had genuine world class defenders behind him. Shelvey wouldn't! Should still go though.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,002
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    Indigo Joe said:

    Pope and Shelvey deserve to go on merit. Pope may be 3rd choice but there's no point taking Hart as he'd also be behind Pickford and Butland. Might as well take a young talented keeper as 3rd choice as opposed to a spent force.

    I think countries should be allowed to take as many keepers as they want as additions to a squad of 20.
    Why would you need to take more than 3 anyway? Most teams don't even use 3, so i doubt there's much need to be taking more.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited May 2018
    Well it avoids the need to take 2 instead of 3 then find you need 3. I think it would be good to be able to take a young keeper for the experience.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975


    Just wow.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44123460
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    Not being funny but this is genuinely our year. I think player of the tournament will be Hendo.
  • hudson-son-son
    hudson-son-son Posts: 2,645


    Assume it's imminent

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