Toronto
Sad news to wake up to.
Ten dead and more injured as a van mows down pedestrians. Lives destroyed and damaged because of the actions of an idiot. They, and their families, deserve better.
RIP to those murdered.
While nothing is being ruled out, the suggestion at the moment is that the motivation may be the same as that of a Californian man, who killed 6 last year, complaining that (because he had no success with the ladies) he was forced into involuntary celibacy. He was reported as shouting at the police to shoot him in the head before capture (perhaps similar to suicide by police cases).
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If that's the case, that is an incredibly stupid reason for murdering and injuring people, not that there's ever a good reason for murder.0
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The same "not getting laid" emotional issue probably accounts for 1/2 or more of ISIS and fundamentalist Islam, globally. Not to mention the priest-molestation issue the last few hundred years. Also witch-burning, The Inquisition, etc. Sexual entitlement, I believe, is the sub-cause of a lot of crap on this planet.7
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I agree with you on this. It's a serious point, difficult to have discussed publicly.NapaAddick said:The same "not getting laid" emotional issue probably accounts for 1/2 or more of ISIS and fundamentalist Islam, globally. Not to mention the priest-molestation issue the last few hundred years. Also witch-burning, The Inquisition, etc. Sexual entitlement, I believe, is the sub-cause of a lot of crap on this planet.
Could we add the invention of Facebook to your list, though? Half-seriously...
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which is why female empowerment and equality is important for all.NapaAddick said:The same "not getting laid" emotional issue probably accounts for 1/2 or more of ISIS and fundamentalist Islam, globally. Not to mention the priest-molestation issue the last few hundred years. Also witch-burning, The Inquisition, etc. Sexual entitlement, I believe, is the sub-cause of a lot of crap on this planet.
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And sex robots...kentaddick said:
which is why female empowerment and equality is important for all.NapaAddick said:The same "not getting laid" emotional issue probably accounts for 1/2 or more of ISIS and fundamentalist Islam, globally. Not to mention the priest-molestation issue the last few hundred years. Also witch-burning, The Inquisition, etc. Sexual entitlement, I believe, is the sub-cause of a lot of crap on this planet.
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When sex robots free us from the tyranny of women mankind will be at peace and religious differences will be forgotten. They really are our great hope :-)Exiled_Addick said:
And sex robots...kentaddick said:
which is why female empowerment and equality is important for all.NapaAddick said:The same "not getting laid" emotional issue probably accounts for 1/2 or more of ISIS and fundamentalist Islam, globally. Not to mention the priest-molestation issue the last few hundred years. Also witch-burning, The Inquisition, etc. Sexual entitlement, I believe, is the sub-cause of a lot of crap on this planet.
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Mass Murder to sex robots in six comments. That got to be some sort of record.
But on the serious subject, how impressive was it that the police captured him without mowing him down in a hail of bullets.
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like managing to capture the killers of lee rigby alive when they came charging at armed police with knives and what looked like a gun.SomervilleAddick said:Mass Murder to sex robots in six comments. That got to be some sort of record.
But on the serious subject, how impressive was it that the police captured him without mowing him down in a hail of bullets.
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It's weird, it's almost like police in other countries can de-escalate serious, life or death situations. Whereas American police constantly escalate prosaic situation into deadly ones...kentaddick said:
like managing to capture the killers of lee rigby alive when they came charging at armed police with knives and what looked like a gun.SomervilleAddick said:Mass Murder to sex robots in six comments. That got to be some sort of record.
But on the serious subject, how impressive was it that the police captured him without mowing him down in a hail of bullets.
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Its a different culture and law enforcement face different challenges in different parts of the world. The officers in the Rigby murder and this attack done very well and I'm certain there's been similar situations in the States, where the suspect has been disarmed and arrested.SDAddick said:
It's weird, it's almost like police in other countries can de-escalate serious, life or death situations. Whereas American police constantly escalate prosaic situation into deadly ones...kentaddick said:
like managing to capture the killers of lee rigby alive when they came charging at armed police with knives and what looked like a gun.SomervilleAddick said:Mass Murder to sex robots in six comments. That got to be some sort of record.
But on the serious subject, how impressive was it that the police captured him without mowing him down in a hail of bullets.
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A fair point, and obviously we have guns in this country, a huge difference from Canada and the UK. But, de-escalation and disarming suspects just isn't prioritized here.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Its a different culture and law enforcement face different challenges in different parts of the world. The officers in the Rigby murder and this attack done very well and I'm certain there's been similar situations in the States, where the suspect has been disarmed and arrested.SDAddick said:
It's weird, it's almost like police in other countries can de-escalate serious, life or death situations. Whereas American police constantly escalate prosaic situation into deadly ones...kentaddick said:
like managing to capture the killers of lee rigby alive when they came charging at armed police with knives and what looked like a gun.SomervilleAddick said:Mass Murder to sex robots in six comments. That got to be some sort of record.
But on the serious subject, how impressive was it that the police captured him without mowing him down in a hail of bullets.
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Would be interesting to see how many suspects are arrested with little to no injuries, compared to those who are killed and make international news.
Going on the theory of probability, I reckon there's gotta be a couple of hundred throughout the US per year, of offenders being apprehended without a shot being fired or injury being inflicted, let alone deaths0 -
Interesting that this thread isn't 15 pages long by now. I wonder why that is?0
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Likewise the (famous over here) case of Sammy Yatim in Toronto a few years ago, was the polar opposite of Monday's outcomei_b_b_o_r_g said:
Its a different culture and law enforcement face different challenges in different parts of the world. The officers in the Rigby murder and this attack done very well and I'm certain there's been similar situations in the States, where the suspect has been disarmed and arrested.SDAddick said:
It's weird, it's almost like police in other countries can de-escalate serious, life or death situations. Whereas American police constantly escalate prosaic situation into deadly ones...kentaddick said:
like managing to capture the killers of lee rigby alive when they came charging at armed police with knives and what looked like a gun.SomervilleAddick said:Mass Murder to sex robots in six comments. That got to be some sort of record.
But on the serious subject, how impressive was it that the police captured him without mowing him down in a hail of bullets.
Proper policing.
https://torontolife.com/city/the-killing-sammy-yatim/
There was even a fatal police shooting in my sleepy old town a few years ago.
I think this guy was lucky, or unlucky given his intentions to run into that particular cop.0 -
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Interesting that this thread isn't 15 pages long by now. I wonder why that is?
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PJW can't stop owning himself, can he?2
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Well the recent Waffle House shooter was apprehended without use of force.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Would be interesting to see how many suspects are arrested with little to no injuries, compared to those who are killed and make international news.
Going on the theory of probability, I reckon there's gotta be a couple of hundred throughout the US per year, of offenders being apprehended without a shot being fired or injury being inflicted, let alone deaths
As was terrorist Dylan Roof. They even offered to take him him to Burger King on the way to the station.
But then you have Tamir Rice, Eric Garner, Stephon Clark, Philando Castile, Anthony Lamar Smith, Michael Brown.
The former are known killers believed to be armed. The latter were neither. And there's one other difference I can't quite put my finger on...2 -
Were black officers involved in any of those shootings?0
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No.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Were black officers involved in any of those shootings?
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Seems one avenue of investigation is that the van driver is whats known as an "incel"
Involuntarily Celibate
Look it up. I genuinely fear for this world! A dweeb who can't get a date thinks it is better to go kill people than to, you know, fit in with society. It's a lot more detailed than that but my god what is this world coming to.0 -
It's normal for inadequates to do terrible things. What's weird with the incels is that they're so open about it. As you say though, the more you find out the stranger it gets.Swisdom said:Seems one avenue of investigation is that the van driver is whats known as an "incel"
Involuntarily Celibate
Look it up. I genuinely fear for this world! A dweeb who can't get a date thinks it is better to go kill people than to, you know, fit in with society. It's a lot more detailed than that but my god what is this world coming to.0
