Players Marks: Charlton v Fleetwood
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Amos: 6
Konsa: 5
Pearce: 6
Bauer: 6
Sarr: 6
Aribo: 5
Forster-Caskey: 4
Marshall: 5
Reeves: 5
Fosu-Henry: 6
Magennis: 5
Ajose: 6
Zyro: 60 -
Amos: 6 - very little to do but saved well with his feet in the second half
Konsa: 5 - didn't venture forward at all (presumably on instructions)
Pearce: 5 - nearly cost us the game with a horrendous error
Bauer: 6 - competent
Sarr: 5 - did ok, given that he is playing out of position
Aribo: 6 - would like to see him playing further forward
Forster-Caskey: 4.5 - too slow and ponderous
Marshall: 5 - tries hard but can't remember him putting in a single decent cross. His stellar performance at Bradford last season looks like a one-off (rather like Ajose's at Swindon two years ago)
Reeves: 4 - a few nice touches but he is too easily brushed off the ball and simply does not offer enough. Another dud signing
Fosu-Henry: 7 - excellent in the first half. His performance dipped in the second, notably when failing to get past the first defender with his corners. The best of a bad bunch
Magennis: 5 - looked an isolated and unhappy figure
Ajose: 6.5 - a few good combinations with Zyro and showed some good movement
Zyro: 6 - more effective than Magennis
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Amos: 6.5
Konsa: 5.5
Pearce: 4.5
Bauer: 5.5
Sarr: 6
Aribo: 6
Forster-Caskey: 5.5
Marshall: 4
Reeves: 4
Fosu-Henry: 4
Magennis: 4
Ajose: 6
Zyro: 60 -
Amos: 6 clean sheet
Konsa: 5
Pearce: 4.5
Bauer: 6
Sarr: 5.5
Aribo:5
Forster-Caskey:5.5 not a lot came off but at least he was trying to break through
Marshall: 5
Reeves:5
Fosu-Henry: 6 looked bothered
Magennis: 5
Ajose: 6 looked lively
Zyro: 6
Kaikai: n/a
I don't think any individual played particularly badly, unfortunately it's a team game and the team as a whole was toothless1 -
Amos: 6
Konsa: 6
Pearce:6
Bauer: 6
Sarr: 6
Aribo: 6
Forster-Caskey: 5
Marshall: 5
Reeves: 5
Fosu-Henry: 5
Magennis: 3
Ajose: 5.5
Zyro: 5
Average shite from a team that has run out of idea's and that has given up.1 -
lancashire lad said:
At the Valley or a live stream your marks please:
Amos: 6
Konsa: 6
Pearce: 6
Bauer: 7
Sarr: 6
Aribo: 6.5
Forster-Caskey: 5
Marshall: 5.5
Reeves: 5
Fosu-Henry: 6
Magennis: 5.5
Ajose: 6.5
Zyro: 6.5
Kaikai: n/a1 -
So my scores have to be consistent with what my other scored have been, good or bad. My 7 is different to your 7, but to make this work you have to remain consistent to your scores. So for me, 6.5 is an average game, nothing special, nothing awful, or perhaps a couple of moments of quality, a couple of moments that were poor. That's presumably not a 6.5 to you. And because this is all relativistic, we're both right. Does that make sense?BR3red said:
Different game watched to me.SDAddick said:Amos: 6 - Didn't have much to do.
Konsa: 7 - Solid if unspectacular going forward but attacks didn't come down his side.
Pearce: 5.5 - That mistake on the halfway line. I thought he was a bit better today until that. That is completely unacceptable from our most experienced defender and captain for the day. He also likes to drop onto the goal line when the ball is in the 18 yard box which is weird.
Bauer: 8.5 MOTM - He is very good at defending and bailed Pearce out on more than one occasion.
Sarr: 7.5 - Marauding left back. Thought he was very good today.
Aribo: 5.5 - Was there but often made the wrong decision in the final third. Looked slow and ponderous on the ball.
Forster-Caskey: 6.5 - A more reserved and tidier role. Nearly had the defense splitting pass that broke them down only for Ajose to be ruled offside.
Marshall: 6.5 - Drifted in and out but got to the byline and got crosses in on a few occasions. They weren't very accurate, but that's an improvement.
Reeves: 7 - Would have liked to have seen him with Zyro and/or Ajose in front of him. Any little breakthrough we had either came from him or Fosu. He looks after the ball well and takes up clever positions. It's just he gets doubled and tripled up because there is no one running beyond him.
Fosu-Henry: 7 - A lot of hard work, a lot of feigning to shoot or cross, not a lot of end product. To be fair when there is no overlapping fullback and not much movement ahead of you or beside you, it makes things very hard and he often got doubled up as soon as he had the ball.
Magennis: 6 - He is not helped by how static the attacking three and midfield two are. No one runs past him. No one makes out to in runs. That said he would have done well to drop deep and leave a space there to potentially create space for others. He is not best suited to games aggainst tigght, compact defenses where he needs to make little touches and interchange with the attackers.
Ajose: 6.5 - Looked lively and looked to drop deep and run at them. Unfortunately that's not his forte and it wasn't always effective. Why he was offside on that ball from JFC I don't know.
Zyro: 6.5 - He looks good with the ball at his feet. Unfortunately, by the time he comes on we're just looking to lump it forward.
Kaikai: n/a Worked hard and tracked back well. Didn't seem to offer much going forward.
Surely those scores reflect a comfortable home win against a very poor team, not a toothless
0-0?
I don't think anybody was what I'll call "Blackpool awful" yesterday. I think a lot of players were decent without being spectacular, which is why there are a lot of 6s. I thought it represented a return to previous of playing pretty well, passing it well, and not being able to break down a packed defense. I think it feels worse because of recent results in which individual performances, along with the team performance, have been awful. I thought yesterday was a good summation of our season, perhaps minus the going ahead then conceding late.
The problem of course is that a 0-0 home draw to a team just outside the relegation zone is what I'd call "the average" for our season.1 -
Surely, on a scale of 1-10, 5 is average?SDAddick said:
So my scores have to be consistent with what my other scored have been, good or bad. My 7 is different to your 7, but to make this work you have to remain consistent to your scores. So for me, 6.5 is an average game, nothing special, nothing awful, or perhaps a couple of moments of quality, a couple of moments that were poor. That's presumably not a 6.5 to you. And because this is all relativistic, we're both right. Does that make sense?BR3red said:
Different game watched to me.SDAddick said:Amos: 6 - Didn't have much to do.
Konsa: 7 - Solid if unspectacular going forward but attacks didn't come down his side.
Pearce: 5.5 - That mistake on the halfway line. I thought he was a bit better today until that. That is completely unacceptable from our most experienced defender and captain for the day. He also likes to drop onto the goal line when the ball is in the 18 yard box which is weird.
Bauer: 8.5 MOTM - He is very good at defending and bailed Pearce out on more than one occasion.
Sarr: 7.5 - Marauding left back. Thought he was very good today.
Aribo: 5.5 - Was there but often made the wrong decision in the final third. Looked slow and ponderous on the ball.
Forster-Caskey: 6.5 - A more reserved and tidier role. Nearly had the defense splitting pass that broke them down only for Ajose to be ruled offside.
Marshall: 6.5 - Drifted in and out but got to the byline and got crosses in on a few occasions. They weren't very accurate, but that's an improvement.
Reeves: 7 - Would have liked to have seen him with Zyro and/or Ajose in front of him. Any little breakthrough we had either came from him or Fosu. He looks after the ball well and takes up clever positions. It's just he gets doubled and tripled up because there is no one running beyond him.
Fosu-Henry: 7 - A lot of hard work, a lot of feigning to shoot or cross, not a lot of end product. To be fair when there is no overlapping fullback and not much movement ahead of you or beside you, it makes things very hard and he often got doubled up as soon as he had the ball.
Magennis: 6 - He is not helped by how static the attacking three and midfield two are. No one runs past him. No one makes out to in runs. That said he would have done well to drop deep and leave a space there to potentially create space for others. He is not best suited to games aggainst tigght, compact defenses where he needs to make little touches and interchange with the attackers.
Ajose: 6.5 - Looked lively and looked to drop deep and run at them. Unfortunately that's not his forte and it wasn't always effective. Why he was offside on that ball from JFC I don't know.
Zyro: 6.5 - He looks good with the ball at his feet. Unfortunately, by the time he comes on we're just looking to lump it forward.
Kaikai: n/a Worked hard and tracked back well. Didn't seem to offer much going forward.
Surely those scores reflect a comfortable home win against a very poor team, not a toothless
0-0?
I don't think anybody was what I'll call "Blackpool awful" yesterday. I think a lot of players were decent without being spectacular, which is why there are a lot of 6s. I thought it represented a return to previous of playing pretty well, passing it well, and not being able to break down a packed defense. I think it feels worse because of recent results in which individual performances, along with the team performance, have been awful. I thought yesterday was a good summation of our season, perhaps minus the going ahead then conceding late.
The problem of course is that a 0-0 home draw to a team just outside the relegation zone is what I'd call "the average" for our season.0 -
Yes, but think of something like "a 7/10 player." What do you expect from them, hard work, consistency, not many moments of magic? Dirk Kuyt, if you will. And these are professional footballers, so to me they should start at something above the median, that should be expected.se9addick said:
Surely, on a scale of 1-10, 5 is average?SDAddick said:
So my scores have to be consistent with what my other scored have been, good or bad. My 7 is different to your 7, but to make this work you have to remain consistent to your scores. So for me, 6.5 is an average game, nothing special, nothing awful, or perhaps a couple of moments of quality, a couple of moments that were poor. That's presumably not a 6.5 to you. And because this is all relativistic, we're both right. Does that make sense?BR3red said:
Different game watched to me.SDAddick said:Amos: 6 - Didn't have much to do.
Konsa: 7 - Solid if unspectacular going forward but attacks didn't come down his side.
Pearce: 5.5 - That mistake on the halfway line. I thought he was a bit better today until that. That is completely unacceptable from our most experienced defender and captain for the day. He also likes to drop onto the goal line when the ball is in the 18 yard box which is weird.
Bauer: 8.5 MOTM - He is very good at defending and bailed Pearce out on more than one occasion.
Sarr: 7.5 - Marauding left back. Thought he was very good today.
Aribo: 5.5 - Was there but often made the wrong decision in the final third. Looked slow and ponderous on the ball.
Forster-Caskey: 6.5 - A more reserved and tidier role. Nearly had the defense splitting pass that broke them down only for Ajose to be ruled offside.
Marshall: 6.5 - Drifted in and out but got to the byline and got crosses in on a few occasions. They weren't very accurate, but that's an improvement.
Reeves: 7 - Would have liked to have seen him with Zyro and/or Ajose in front of him. Any little breakthrough we had either came from him or Fosu. He looks after the ball well and takes up clever positions. It's just he gets doubled and tripled up because there is no one running beyond him.
Fosu-Henry: 7 - A lot of hard work, a lot of feigning to shoot or cross, not a lot of end product. To be fair when there is no overlapping fullback and not much movement ahead of you or beside you, it makes things very hard and he often got doubled up as soon as he had the ball.
Magennis: 6 - He is not helped by how static the attacking three and midfield two are. No one runs past him. No one makes out to in runs. That said he would have done well to drop deep and leave a space there to potentially create space for others. He is not best suited to games aggainst tigght, compact defenses where he needs to make little touches and interchange with the attackers.
Ajose: 6.5 - Looked lively and looked to drop deep and run at them. Unfortunately that's not his forte and it wasn't always effective. Why he was offside on that ball from JFC I don't know.
Zyro: 6.5 - He looks good with the ball at his feet. Unfortunately, by the time he comes on we're just looking to lump it forward.
Kaikai: n/a Worked hard and tracked back well. Didn't seem to offer much going forward.
Surely those scores reflect a comfortable home win against a very poor team, not a toothless
0-0?
I don't think anybody was what I'll call "Blackpool awful" yesterday. I think a lot of players were decent without being spectacular, which is why there are a lot of 6s. I thought it represented a return to previous of playing pretty well, passing it well, and not being able to break down a packed defense. I think it feels worse because of recent results in which individual performances, along with the team performance, have been awful. I thought yesterday was a good summation of our season, perhaps minus the going ahead then conceding late.
The problem of course is that a 0-0 home draw to a team just outside the relegation zone is what I'd call "the average" for our season.
If we want to talk about unifying our numbers and ctiterium for next year I'd be happy to do that. There's actually something in my day job that is very similar to this, so I think about it a lot more than is normal/healthy.0 -
Amos: 6
Konsa: 6
Pearce: 6
Bauer: 6
Sarr: 6
Aribo: 6
Forster-Caskey: 6
Marshall: 6
Reeves: 6
Fosu-Henry: 6.5
Magennis: 6
Ajose: 6
Zyro: 61 - Sponsored links:
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One man's five is another man's six, it doesn't matter so long as each maintains consistency through the season. That 's your relativism thing I guess.SDAddick said:
Yes, but think of something like "a 7/10 player." What do you expect from them, hard work, consistency, not many moments of magic? Dirk Kuyt, if you will. And these are professional footballers, so to me they should start at something above the median, that should be expected.se9addick said:
Surely, on a scale of 1-10, 5 is average?SDAddick said:
So my scores have to be consistent with what my other scored have been, good or bad. My 7 is different to your 7, but to make this work you have to remain consistent to your scores. So for me, 6.5 is an average game, nothing special, nothing awful, or perhaps a couple of moments of quality, a couple of moments that were poor. That's presumably not a 6.5 to you. And because this is all relativistic, we're both right. Does that make sense?BR3red said:
Different game watched to me.SDAddick said:Amos: 6 - Didn't have much to do.
Konsa: 7 - Solid if unspectacular going forward but attacks didn't come down his side.
Pearce: 5.5 - That mistake on the halfway line. I thought he was a bit better today until that. That is completely unacceptable from our most experienced defender and captain for the day. He also likes to drop onto the goal line when the ball is in the 18 yard box which is weird.
Bauer: 8.5 MOTM - He is very good at defending and bailed Pearce out on more than one occasion.
Sarr: 7.5 - Marauding left back. Thought he was very good today.
Aribo: 5.5 - Was there but often made the wrong decision in the final third. Looked slow and ponderous on the ball.
Forster-Caskey: 6.5 - A more reserved and tidier role. Nearly had the defense splitting pass that broke them down only for Ajose to be ruled offside.
Marshall: 6.5 - Drifted in and out but got to the byline and got crosses in on a few occasions. They weren't very accurate, but that's an improvement.
Reeves: 7 - Would have liked to have seen him with Zyro and/or Ajose in front of him. Any little breakthrough we had either came from him or Fosu. He looks after the ball well and takes up clever positions. It's just he gets doubled and tripled up because there is no one running beyond him.
Fosu-Henry: 7 - A lot of hard work, a lot of feigning to shoot or cross, not a lot of end product. To be fair when there is no overlapping fullback and not much movement ahead of you or beside you, it makes things very hard and he often got doubled up as soon as he had the ball.
Magennis: 6 - He is not helped by how static the attacking three and midfield two are. No one runs past him. No one makes out to in runs. That said he would have done well to drop deep and leave a space there to potentially create space for others. He is not best suited to games aggainst tigght, compact defenses where he needs to make little touches and interchange with the attackers.
Ajose: 6.5 - Looked lively and looked to drop deep and run at them. Unfortunately that's not his forte and it wasn't always effective. Why he was offside on that ball from JFC I don't know.
Zyro: 6.5 - He looks good with the ball at his feet. Unfortunately, by the time he comes on we're just looking to lump it forward.
Kaikai: n/a Worked hard and tracked back well. Didn't seem to offer much going forward.
Surely those scores reflect a comfortable home win against a very poor team, not a toothless
0-0?
I don't think anybody was what I'll call "Blackpool awful" yesterday. I think a lot of players were decent without being spectacular, which is why there are a lot of 6s. I thought it represented a return to previous of playing pretty well, passing it well, and not being able to break down a packed defense. I think it feels worse because of recent results in which individual performances, along with the team performance, have been awful. I thought yesterday was a good summation of our season, perhaps minus the going ahead then conceding late.
The problem of course is that a 0-0 home draw to a team just outside the relegation zone is what I'd call "the average" for our season.
If we want to talk about unifying our numbers and ctiterium for next year I'd be happy to do that. There's actually something in my day job that is very similar to this, so I think about it a lot more than is normal/healthy.1 -
@lancashire lad
Having watched the match again (I know, I know) can I give an extra mark to Amos and Ajose?0 -
Didn't think we had enough people in the stadium to give as many marks.0
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Amos: 7 Clean sheet made some good saves .One mistake but an extra point for playing after needing pain killers at half time
Konsa: 5 A couple of times he got caught out
Pearce: 6 Looking better with him although he also nearly cost us in possession
Bauer: 6 Looked sound
Sarr: 6 Extra point for trying to overlap . Better than Da Silva defensively .
Aribo: 6 Needs to get forward more .Looked better in the 4 4 2 .
Forster-Caskey: 6 Kept trying to be creative
Marshall: 6 Wish he had more pace
Reeves: 7 Surprised he was subbed . I thought he played well
Fosu-Henry: 6 Loses a point for the awful corners
Magennis: 5 Things didn't come off for him today
Ajose: 7 Looked lively
Zyro: 7 Thought he was more effective than Magennis .0 -
You didn't seriously watch the full 90 minutes again, did you?JamesSeed said:@lancashire lad
Having watched the match again (I know, I know) can I give an extra mark to Amos and Ajose?1 -
Amos: 4 - Dont see the fuss about this bloke, he looks pony to me.
Konsa: 5- Average
Pearce: 6- SOLID
Bauer: 6-SOLID
Sarr: 6 -People are too harsh on him, had a good game.
Aribo: 6- Looked good, but couldn't find the killer pass.
Forster-Caskey: 5- Too long on the ball.
Marshall: 5- Weak
Reeves: 6- Best Ive seen him play, Worked his socks off, strange sub.
Fosu-Henry: 4- So much talent. Unfortunately he has the footballing brain of a 3 year old.
Magennis: 5 - Wont mark him down, Leaving 1 up front is ruining his career.
Ajose: 2 - GO AWAY YOU LAZY TOSSER
Zyro: 4- Didn't change it, sat too deep.0 -
Well, it was on while I was cooking.se9addick said:
You didn't seriously watch the full 90 minutes again, did you?JamesSeed said:@lancashire lad
Having watched the match again (I know, I know) can I give an extra mark to Amos and Ajose?
It beats thrashing myself with a whip.0 -
Amos: 5
Konsa: 5
Pearce: 5
Bauer: 5
Sarr: 5
Aribo: 5
Forster-Caskey: 4
Marshall: 5
Reeves: 7
Fosu-Henry: 5
Magennis: 5
Ajose: 5
Zyro: 6
This was a pretty average performance against aprettu average league 1 team, the game was boring as well.0 -
yes just this onceJamesSeed said:@lancashire lad
Having watched the match again (I know, I know) can I give an extra mark to Amos and Ajose?2 -
You old softie Lancslancashire lad said:
yes just this onceJamesSeed said:@lancashire lad
Having watched the match again (I know, I know) can I give an extra mark to Amos and Ajose?.
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It won't happen again ;-)1
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Amos: 7
Konsa: 4
Pearce: 5
Bauer: 6
Sarr: 4
Aribo: 6
Forster-Caskey: 6
Marshall: 4
Reeves: 3
Fosu-Henry: 5
Magennis: 7
Ajose: 5
Zyro: 4
Kaikai: n/a - beyond irony0 -
High number mean good, low number mean bad?0