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Billy Graham R.I.P.

Like him or his message or not, an incredible personality, could fill a stadium anywhere.
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  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Just a few months off 100.

    RIP
  • A-R-T-H-U-R
    A-R-T-H-U-R Posts: 7,678
    Saw him 'perform' at a packed out Villa Park.
    Wow - brain washing of the very highest order.
    Slightly sinister air about the whole experience.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,733
    It's ironic that now he's dead he won't actually be able realise there is no Afterlife.
  • It's ironic that now he's dead he won't actually be able realise there is no Afterlife.

    Who, from the other side, has told you that?
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    I've never been a fan of multi-millionaire evangelists, but Billy Graham has brought comfort to millions, and has left a legacy that will continue to do so.
  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,867
    Took Ricky Hatton to the world title and was poorly treated after.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    False comfort from a charlatan. No thanks.
  • Nearly made 100, horrible be stuck on 99 and being given out.
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    Stig said:

    False comfort from a charlatan. No thanks.

    Doesn't work for me either, but I won't knock what works for others.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    limeygent said:

    Stig said:

    False comfort from a charlatan. No thanks.

    Doesn't work for me either, but I won't knock what works for others.
    Scientology works for others - would you not knock them?

    Billy Graham along with all the other evangelical preachers who monetise their 'acts' are crooks in my mind, feeding off the false hopes and sorrows of others.
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  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    As I said, I'm not a fan of multi-millionaire evangelists, and Scientology is a proven scam, I don't believe Christianity, in it's many forms, has been proven as such.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    I wouldn't put Billy Graham in the same group of charlatan evangelists that popularise sections of the USA.

    RIP - although he believes that he wont be resting.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    limeygent said:

    could fill a stadium anywhere.

    So we could have just got him to sort Target 20k all along?
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350
    RIP
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842

    I wouldn't put Billy Graham in the same group of charlatan evangelists that popularise sections of the USA.

    RIP - although he believes that he wont be resting.

    I would agree Billy Graham is certainly not in the Kenneth Copeland category of charlatans.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    He insisted that crusade accounts be audited and published in the local papers when the crusade was finished. Having founded the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association in 1950, he took a straight salary, comparable to that of a senior minister of a major urban pulpit, no matter how much in money his meetings brought in. He was turning down million-dollar television and Hollywood offers half a century ago. He never built the Church of Billy Graham, and while he lived comfortably, his house is a modest place. If he had wanted to get rich, he could have been many, many times over.

    Not perfect, but no-one is. Well- meaning and sincere I think.
    RIP
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    His brother is George, another crook. Maybe.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,733
    edited February 2018
    Uboat said:

    He insisted that crusade accounts be audited and published in the local papers when the crusade was finished. Having founded the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association in 1950, he took a straight salary, comparable to that of a senior minister of a major urban pulpit, no matter how much in money his meetings brought in. He was turning down million-dollar television and Hollywood offers half a century ago. He never built the Church of Billy Graham, and while he lived comfortably, his house is a modest place. If he had wanted to get rich, he could have been many, many times over.

    Not perfect, but no-one is. Well- meaning and sincere I think.
    RIP

    He was worth $25mil as of last year. That's rich in my book.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    The Queen was a fan.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    Riviera said:

    The Queen was a fan.

    But did he ever get any of her money?
    Can imagine Philip and her having many a row about him, that being the case.
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  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    edited February 2018
    I'm confused. I've been slaughtered on other RIP threads for not showing what is deemed to be the right respect. Told to open separate threads if there are issues about the person who died or why it's on here but this one seems to be a free for all.
    So does this mean future RIP threads can be more than meaningless posts of RIP plus some observation about how wonderful the dead one was?
    Probably not, but we'll see.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    edited February 2018
    iainment said:

    I'm confused. I've been slaughtered on other RIP threads for not showing what is deemed to be the right respect. Told to open separate threads if there are issues about the person who died or why it's on here but this one seems to be a free for all.
    So does this mean future RIP threads can be more than meaningless posts of RIP plus some observation about how wonderful the dead one was?
    Probably not, but we'll see.

    You're right.

    However the PC guardians of what we may or may not say don't apply the same standards of protestation to criticism of Christians, Jews, stale, pale males or fat people.

    Billy Graham, as a Christian, is therefore fair game for their vitriol and undeserving of respect.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,737
    Won the death poll I entered with this one!
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    Uboat said:

    He insisted that crusade accounts be audited and published in the local papers when the crusade was finished. Having founded the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association in 1950, he took a straight salary, comparable to that of a senior minister of a major urban pulpit, no matter how much in money his meetings brought in. He was turning down million-dollar television and Hollywood offers half a century ago. He never built the Church of Billy Graham, and while he lived comfortably, his house is a modest place. If he had wanted to get rich, he could have been many, many times over.

    Not perfect, but no-one is. Well- meaning and sincere I think.
    RIP

    He was worth $25mil as of last year. That's rich in my book.
    He preached the Christian gospel to as many as 215 million people in live audiences alone in over 185 countries. That works out about 9 pence per person. It wasn't just about encouraging people "to believe" though. He was a major figure in the movement for racial integration.

    Now I'm not a practising Christian but if he gave that many people the belief and courage to lead a good life then he did an awful lot more than City folk who are worth 10 or even 100 times more, in wealth terms, than him.
  • Went to Earls Court to see him back in the 60,s.

    RIP...
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,899

    Nearly made 100, horrible be stuck on 99 and being given out.

    Nearly made 100, horrible be stuck on 99 and being given out.

    No third umpire either
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    Riviera said:

    The Queen was a fan.

    She's sent a message of condolence to his family.
  • Saw him 'perform' at a packed out Villa Park.
    Wow - brain washing of the very highest order.
    Slightly sinister air about the whole experience.

    Religion in a nutshell.
  • It's ironic that now he's dead he won't actually be able realise there is no Afterlife.

    Who, from the other side, has told you that?
    Was on the takeover thread. Airman, Red Henry or Doucher.
  • RIP. He led countless souls to meet Jesus and now he is spending the rest of eternity with him. As he said "My home is in heaven. I'm just travelling through this world".
    So thankful for his life and the relentless pursuit to see the gospel preached on this earth. RIP.