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Agreed - at least there would be a belt to fight for. A non-title fight for the final would undermine the entire competition.StewieGriffinSE7 said:Gutted to hear that Jnr ‘could’ still win the WBSS competition as Kalle has asked him to be one of a handful on standby if GG can’t be fit for final on 2nd June. I’d much rather see Traux wildcarded in for the final with the IBF strap he took off DeGale
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Eubank Jr said: “At the beginning of my career my dad was constantly advising and guiding, telling me what I should and shouldn’t do — as he had to.nth london addick said:Listening to the interviews I don’t know if Sr Is the issue I reckon JR is just as deluded
“Now I’m at the stage where I’ve been there and done it and I know what I’m doing. I don’t need that constant instruction. I am now the best super-middleweight in the world. There is still so much I want to achieve and I’m still fresh. I want to create a legacy."
The guy is deluded.
Fair enough he's confident in his own ability, (although maybe less so after Saturday night), but how does he hope to address problems he's not aware of. You surely need a coach to spot issues, explain where you're going wrong and how to correct them. His training isn't just about what he's doing right, it's just as much about what he's doing wrong. And if he's an arrogant prick that thinks he's the worlds best already then he'll never improve.
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Juergen Braehmer out of the Callum Smith fight this weekend due to illness.
Nikey Holzken (who was the registered reserve) step in.
Holzken was training for a fight with Chudinov.0 -
Well worth a watch, behind the scenes before, during and after the Eubank/Groves fight.
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His dad tells him in the behind the scenes footage it was the right result and JR disagrees and seeks assurances from others in the teamChris_from_Sidcup said:
Eubank Jr said: “At the beginning of my career my dad was constantly advising and guiding, telling me what I should and shouldn’t do — as he had to.nth london addick said:Listening to the interviews I don’t know if Sr Is the issue I reckon JR is just as deluded
“Now I’m at the stage where I’ve been there and done it and I know what I’m doing. I don’t need that constant instruction. I am now the best super-middleweight in the world. There is still so much I want to achieve and I’m still fresh. I want to create a legacy."
The guy is deluded.
Fair enough he's confident in his own ability, (although maybe less so after Saturday night), but how does he hope to address problems he's not aware of. You surely need a coach to spot issues, explain where you're going wrong and how to correct them. His training isn't just about what he's doing right, it's just as much about what he's doing wrong. And if he's an arrogant prick that thinks he's the worlds best already then he'll never improve.
The problem is when you constantly tell people they are great when their not they will end up believing it1 -
I felt the silence was deafening when he asked his team if they thought he won.0
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To be fair in the immediacy after a bout it must be easy to assume you've done better than you did especially if you were coming forward.nth london addick said:
His dad tells him in the behind the scenes footage it was the right result and JR disagrees and seeks assurances from others in the teamChris_from_Sidcup said:
Eubank Jr said: “At the beginning of my career my dad was constantly advising and guiding, telling me what I should and shouldn’t do — as he had to.nth london addick said:Listening to the interviews I don’t know if Sr Is the issue I reckon JR is just as deluded
“Now I’m at the stage where I’ve been there and done it and I know what I’m doing. I don’t need that constant instruction. I am now the best super-middleweight in the world. There is still so much I want to achieve and I’m still fresh. I want to create a legacy."
The guy is deluded.
Fair enough he's confident in his own ability, (although maybe less so after Saturday night), but how does he hope to address problems he's not aware of. You surely need a coach to spot issues, explain where you're going wrong and how to correct them. His training isn't just about what he's doing right, it's just as much about what he's doing wrong. And if he's an arrogant prick that thinks he's the worlds best already then he'll never improve.
The problem is when you constantly tell people they are great when their not they will end up believing it
If however after watching it back he thinks he did anything other than convincingly lose pretty much every round whilst launching wild uncoordinated attacks in the manner of a white collar contest then he's beyond deluded!1 -
I hope that my suspicious mind on Braemer and his illness is in part allowing braemer vs Smith to be the final should George not make it3
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Braehmer had pulled out of his fight with Smith on Saturday with a fever, a Dutch guy I've never heard of will now take his place - Holzken I think his name is, any one know anything about him?0
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Mate who knows his boxing reckons he's a kickboxer and essentially an appalling replacement.Chef_addick said:Braehmer had pulled out of his fight with Smith on Saturday with a fever, a Dutch guy I've never heard of will now take his place - Holzken I think his name is, any one know anything about him?
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Brahmer has previous for pulling out of fights if he doesn't fancy it though0 -
Don’t reckon George will make it mate very coincidental the day groves has been back in for scan0
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It doesn't leave long does it, personally I think they will delay the final as Groves is the draw, Smith only sells tickets in Liverpoolnth london addick said:Don’t reckon George will make it mate very coincidental the day groves has been back in for scan
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Who was the gimp with dreadlocks announcing, wot a wanker0
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He does all WBSS ring announcing0
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Still have absolutely no idea how that wasn't given as a knockdown in the 10thstackitsteve said:Well worth a watch, behind the scenes before, during and after the Eubank/Groves fight.
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Agree - clearly a punch that put him down.Pelling1993 said:
Still have absolutely no idea how that wasn't given as a knockdown in the 10thstackitsteve said:Well worth a watch, behind the scenes before, during and after the Eubank/Groves fight.
https://youtu.be/ZptrpfbkHBM
Eubank “I still think I’m better than Groves” - truly delusional.
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Hope so.Carter said:
It doesn't leave long does it, personally I think they will delay the final as Groves is the draw, Smith only sells tickets in Liverpoolnth london addick said:Don’t reckon George will make it mate very coincidental the day groves has been back in for scan
Gonna be a bit of a farce if they've got Smith in the final who beat an unknown, versus a guy who was either a loser (Eubank) or Brahmer (didn't win a semi to get there).0 -
I sure hope so. What's the point of having a competition like this if you're not gonna allow the WC and top seed enough time to make the final?Carter said:
It doesn't leave long does it, personally I think they will delay the final as Groves is the draw, Smith only sells tickets in Liverpoolnth london addick said:Don’t reckon George will make it mate very coincidental the day groves has been back in for scan
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Although I have heard from a friend who knows Groves' family that he's confident they will delay the final and he will make it. So we'll see.0
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Bookies go 10/11 Groves and 5/6 Smith; can't split 'em. I personally think there's some value in Groves again if he does get back to full fitness.0
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I like Callum Smith I don't think he's got the minerals to beat Groves though, what I love about Groves is he is unusual for a British Boxer in his style, you can tell he used to be a kickboxer in his early fights but now he's really improved, I know a lot of people were shocked at what he did to Froch in the first fight and he has adjusted and has visibly improved his conditioning and fitness since the losses to Froch and Jack which ironically makes him a bit more like Froch and I don't think he's looking to take everyone's head off in the first few rounds which makes him a far better all round technical fighter and a more challenging prospect for his peers at 168lbsI_Saw_Semedo_Score said:Bookies go 10/11 Groves and 5/6 Smith; can't split 'em. I personally think there's some value in Groves again if he does get back to full fitness.
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Not sure how recent it is, saw it today on Facebook, but the video of Groves promoter on the nosebag in the press conference is amazing.1
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He reckons all that behaviour is a nervous twitch he has had for years.....ValleyGary said:Not sure how recent it is, saw it today on Facebook, but the video of Groves promoter on the nosebag in the press conference is amazing.
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I too would favour a fit Groves over Smith.Carter said:
I like Callum Smith I don't think he's got the minerals to beat Groves though, what I love about Groves is he is unusual for a British Boxer in his style, you can tell he used to be a kickboxer in his early fights but now he's really improved, I know a lot of people were shocked at what he did to Froch in the first fight and he has adjusted and has visibly improved his conditioning and fitness since the losses to Froch and Jack which ironically makes him a bit more like Froch and I don't think he's looking to take everyone's head off in the first few rounds which makes him a far better all round technical fighter and a more challenging prospect for his peers at 168lbsI_Saw_Semedo_Score said:Bookies go 10/11 Groves and 5/6 Smith; can't split 'em. I personally think there's some value in Groves again if he does get back to full fitness.
Everything else you say is spot on, Dan. The first fight I took my boys to was Groves/Degale because my Danny was a huge Groves fan. That was a great fight but George is a far more astute boxer now and a lot of that must be down to Shane.
Sometimes it’s easy to forget what a stellar amateur career George had too - and for me he is pretty much now the complete super middleweight.
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Agreed. Groves has always, until recently, been very underrated considering he's always been game to fight the best and although he has come up short a couple of times, has never been outclassed.Carter said:
I like Callum Smith I don't think he's got the minerals to beat Groves though, what I love about Groves is he is unusual for a British Boxer in his style, you can tell he used to be a kickboxer in his early fights but now he's really improved, I know a lot of people were shocked at what he did to Froch in the first fight and he has adjusted and has visibly improved his conditioning and fitness since the losses to Froch and Jack which ironically makes him a bit more like Froch and I don't think he's looking to take everyone's head off in the first few rounds which makes him a far better all round technical fighter and a more challenging prospect for his peers at 168lbsI_Saw_Semedo_Score said:Bookies go 10/11 Groves and 5/6 Smith; can't split 'em. I personally think there's some value in Groves again if he does get back to full fitness.
People say he's not the fighter he was when he fought Froch the first time. I'd agree. He's better.2 -
Exactly, he only missed out on Beiging by a bees dick and was properly knocking people out as an amateur. I think he realised after the Jack Fight he had to make a couple of adjustments and Shane McGuigan who was also a very decent amateur has made them with him. He's an intelligent bloke Groves and unlike a huge amount of British fighters he has the nous to box to a predetermined game plan.bobmunro said:
I too would favour a fit Groves over Smith.Carter said:
I like Callum Smith I don't think he's got the minerals to beat Groves though, what I love about Groves is he is unusual for a British Boxer in his style, you can tell he used to be a kickboxer in his early fights but now he's really improved, I know a lot of people were shocked at what he did to Froch in the first fight and he has adjusted and has visibly improved his conditioning and fitness since the losses to Froch and Jack which ironically makes him a bit more like Froch and I don't think he's looking to take everyone's head off in the first few rounds which makes him a far better all round technical fighter and a more challenging prospect for his peers at 168lbsI_Saw_Semedo_Score said:Bookies go 10/11 Groves and 5/6 Smith; can't split 'em. I personally think there's some value in Groves again if he does get back to full fitness.
Everything else you say is spot on, Dan. The first fight I took my boys to was Groves/Degale because my Danny was a huge Groves fan. That was a great fight but George is a far more astute boxer now and a lot of that must be down to Shane.
Sometimes it’s easy to forget what a stellar amateur career George had too - and for me he is pretty much now the complete super middleweight.
Benavidez will be a tough fight but could well cement a legacy for George and I'd love to see him get him over here for a unification bout0 -
It’s a bit of bothCarter said:
He reckons all that behaviour is a nervous twitch he has had for years.....ValleyGary said:Not sure how recent it is, saw it today on Facebook, but the video of Groves promoter on the nosebag in the press conference is amazing.
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I will disagree with both of you on groves vs Smith ,
Cal by far the best smith and imo stops George by 90 -
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