Eating raw chicken

Arsenetatters said:

AddickUpNorth said:

See, that’s why I don’t eat chicken, raw or cooked. It’s fowl.

Totally agree.

Spend some time watching hens that have been rescued from their cages, pale faces and few feathers. They're still curious, beautiful creatures. After a few months their feathers grow back. Each hen is an individual and has their own personality. They can be friendly, trusting of humans and learn to be called by name. Please don't eat them.

I can't see what wrong with doing the above, and then eating them

10x more exciting than the takeover thread. It has it all; suspense, adversity, poo - can't wait to see how it turns out.

EastStand said:

10x more exciting than the takeover thread. It has it all; suspense, adversity, poo - can't wait to see how it turns out.

You want to see a poo turned out?

This forum really is going to the dogs bogs

No update for a while.

Did the briefing get interrupted by simultaneous dual eruptions?

Is Princess Fiona stuck in the train khazi with no signal or, worse, no loo paper?

The suspense is unbearable.

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Arsenetatters said:

AddickUpNorth said:

See, that’s why I don’t eat chicken, raw or cooked. It’s fowl.

Totally agree.

Spend some time watching hens that have been rescued from their cages, pale faces and few feathers. They're still curious, beautiful creatures. After a few months their feathers grow back. Each hen is an individual and has their own personality. They can be friendly, trusting of humans and learn to be called by name. Please don't eat them.

I can't see what wrong with doing the above, and then eating them

If you have got to eat chicken then they should at least be allowed to live a good life before they're slaughtered. But they're not. Even chickens that are so-called 'free-range' live in cramped conditons and few get outside. All you need to call them free-range is to have a hatch where they can get outside, it's just that with 5000 in one shed it's pretty difficult for the ones further to the back to ever get there. I've rescued so-called free-range chickens and we had to wear masks to stop the ammonia stench from affecting our lungs. And for chickens their respiratory system is affected at levels before humans can smell it. God this makes me angry and sad in equal measures.

Arsenetatters said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Arsenetatters said:

AddickUpNorth said:

See, that’s why I don’t eat chicken, raw or cooked. It’s fowl.

Totally agree.

Spend some time watching hens that have been rescued from their cages, pale faces and few feathers. They're still curious, beautiful creatures. After a few months their feathers grow back. Each hen is an individual and has their own personality. They can be friendly, trusting of humans and learn to be called by name. Please don't eat them.

I can't see what wrong with doing the above, and then eating them

If you have got to eat chicken then they should at least be allowed to live a good life before they're slaughtered. But they're not. Even chickens that are so-called 'free-range' live in cramped conditons and few get outside. All you need to call them free-range is to have a hatch where they can get outside, it's just that with 5000 in one shed it's pretty difficult for the ones further to the back to ever get there. I've rescued so-called free-range chickens and we had to wear masks to stop the ammonia stench from affecting our lungs. And for chickens their respiratory system is affected at levels before humans can smell it. God this makes me angry and sad in equal measures.

I fear we may be going over well trod ground here

A good bout of food poisining every now and then is useful as a quick approach to weight loss.

ShootersHillGuru said:

Fiiish said:

I imagine most meat-eaters would rather the animals they ate had good lives and were raised in clean ethical facilities.

But people also want cheap food and can't be bothered to research where their food comes from.

And we have a terrible labelling system that is both onerous and lacking at the same time.

There's a reason why in any supermarket fresh chicken aisle 90% of it will be whole chickens for £4 each and a red tractor slapped on it and hardly any of it dedicated to the £10 birds that, at least according to the label, might have gone outside at some point in their lives.

Excellent butchers near me that sells outside reared chickens from its own farm in Sussex. They cost depending on size about £11 - £14. I would dearly love to be able to buy these regularly but when compared to a similar size bird in a supermarket for £5.00 it makes me think I can’t justify it. Some people of course just wouldn’t be able to afford it.

I do find it a dilemma.

My parents used to get the most wonderful chickens to roast on Sundays. I imagine in today's money they would be between 10 and 15 but it would feed the family on Sunday with plenty left over for the next few days for dinners and sandwiches.

A supermarket chicken is 90% water and shrinks loads in the oven. You're not getting any more meat for your money. The cost savings for the consumer are minimal I think compared to the quality of meat.

And meat should be a treat not an everyday regular staple. If people only ate decent, ethically sourced meat twice a week rather than bargain meat every evening, it would cost the same except you'd have much better meat and be healthier for it, and maybe standards would rise.

Could you possibly sue them?

Curb_It said:

I couldn't really see the pic properly on my phone this morning but wow. Yuck. The thought of it, I couldn't open this thread at lunch when I was eating my hummus and falafel wrap.

Bit concerned now, how long was the debriefing? Any update Fiona?

That's very middle class, B.

Although KFC was shut I suppose, so that must have put you in a bit of a pickle...

Arsenetatters said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Arsenetatters said:

AddickUpNorth said:

See, that’s why I don’t eat chicken, raw or cooked. It’s fowl.

Totally agree.

Spend some time watching hens that have been rescued from their cages, pale faces and few feathers. They're still curious, beautiful creatures. After a few months their feathers grow back. Each hen is an individual and has their own personality. They can be friendly, trusting of humans and learn to be called by name. Please don't eat them.

I can't see what wrong with doing the above, and then eating them

If you have got to eat chicken then they should at least be allowed to live a good life before they're slaughtered. But they're not. Even chickens that are so-called 'free-range' live in cramped conditons and few get outside. All you need to call them free-range is to have a hatch where they can get outside, it's just that with 5000 in one shed it's pretty difficult for the ones further to the back to ever get there. I've rescued so-called free-range chickens and we had to wear masks to stop the ammonia stench from affecting our lungs. And for chickens their respiratory system is affected at levels before humans can smell it. God this makes me angry and sad in equal measures.

When buying eggs I do try to buy free range & try to do the same when buying a whole chicken. However, I can't say that either taste any different to caged or battery ones. I'm a meat eater & proud of it. Couldn't go veggie or vegan & eat meat virtually every day.

I was told that red wine with a meal can kill off some bugs. Not sure if true.