Nick Clegg 'to receive knighthood' in New Year's honours list
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My son has nearly 50 grand of uni debt and has worked since graduating but it continues to increase due to interest. He would need to earn 41k per year for it to start to decrease. He was in the first group of 9k fees and it was too late at the time to change plans.
Clegg and his ilk are utter cnuts with no redeeming features.2 -
Can not stand the prick, sniffed a bit of glory and back tracked hastily, useles piece of Liberal Political pooh.4
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The whole honour's system is wank and needs to be abolished.15
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The Lib Dems salivated for a bit of fringe power. The Thick Of It nailed it regarding them. However they have done real damage to real people along with their vile Tory mates.14
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I'm a Farage fan but even he doesn't deserve it.Chaz Hill said:
And poor old Nigel getting snubbed again by all accountsDiscoCAFC said:If this is true this will be an absolute joke! What has he done to deserve this? 5 years as deputy prime minister? So what! His lies has let down himself and his own party and in particular the youngsters on his tuition fees pledge! I can think of thousands of more people who deserve this and they do not get any recognition whatsoever!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/25/nick-clegg-receive-knighthood-new-years-honours-list/
Clegg doesn't even get a quarter of the recognition of the icons who received the knighthood like Winston Churhchill and Alf Ramsey.3 -
Well we certainly agree on the fact that the honours system is deeply flawed. Dodgy Peerages are the main issue because of the part they play in ourDiscoCAFC said:
I'm a Farage fan but even he doesn't deserve it.Chaz Hill said:
And poor old Nigel getting snubbed again by all accountsDiscoCAFC said:If this is true this will be an absolute joke! What has he done to deserve this? 5 years as deputy prime minister? So what! His lies has let down himself and his own party and in particular the youngsters on his tuition fees pledge! I can think of thousands of more people who deserve this and they do not get any recognition whatsoever!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/25/nick-clegg-receive-knighthood-new-years-honours-list/
Clegg doesn't even get a quarter of the recognition of the icons who received the knighthood like Winston Churhchill and Alf Ramsey.
Democracy. Knighthoods have been pretty well devalued for years.
Really not sure how anyone can be a fan of Farage though ☺2 -
Prescott is way better than his press.Thommo said:Swings and roundabouts.
Clegg presided over Lib Dem’s decimation, but also led them into government for the first time in the history.
Failed to deliver on his tuition fees pledge but delivered a fairer system in terms of what is basically a low level graduate tax.
In terms of pupil premium Clegg and Lib Dem’s has done more for Social Mobility than the majority of those who preceded him and judging but the recent actions of Milburn and the commission all those who followed him.
Clegg rejected a peerage as he didn’t want a state funded job for life, compare that with John Prescott a deputy PM who did bugger all.
I have no problems with politicians continuing their careers in the second house if an honour is the only way to get there. It should be an elected house though.1 -
To all the Farage fans out there he keeps using the phrase 'the brexit we all voted for", do you know what that is by any chance?5
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Say it often enough Seth and people start to believe it.seth plum said:To all the Farage fans out there he keeps using the phrase 'the brexit we all voted for", do you know what that is by any chance?
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You should really read more...cafcnick1992 said:Possibly my least favourite human on this planet.
Allow me to introduce you to:
Ariel Castro
Martin Shkreli (I know he's the hipster's choice of terrible people but he still deserves a shout out)
Harvey Weinstein
Bobby Mugabe
And the last one I can be bothered to think of: Sepp Blatter
And that wasn't even people in politics (I'm not calling what Mugabe was in "politics" because it's not really politics when it's a dictatorship). That was just...people.3 -
I suppose it is because you mentioned you were a Farage fan, and I thought you might be able to solve one of the modern days greatest mysteries, what brexit did people vote for.DiscoCAFC said:
Not sure why this question is relevant to this thread?seth plum said:To all the Farage fans out there he keeps using the phrase 'the brexit we all voted for", do you know what that is by any chance?
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Either that or he saw a chance of power that his party would never have had without reneging on his election promises and propping up a minority government that his voters didn't want. I know where my money is.nth london addick said:I don’t like the things he says currently but the man went up in my estimations by trying to influence change when he assisted in the coalition government
Deserved of a knighthood no not imo
But a very brave stance that fortunately assited in removing a terrible labour government who ruined the country and we are still paying for it now
Sadly for Nick, he never imagined that voters would have a memory for things like being stabbed in the back and so didn't realise that in propping up Cameron he would making himself eternally unelectable.5 -
He had the fortitude to try and influence a government that was needed after the labour imbeciles had bled us dry and taken us to a road of no return
What else could he have done joined labour and made a collation with them ?
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I'd rather have him at the back than Naby Sarr2
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What road is that then?
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It’s that magical mystery road that the Tories fall back to whenever they need someone to blame after eight years of Mismanagement and failed austerity.Stig said:What road is that then?
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The Liberals were in power long before Clegg was born .Thommo said:Swings and roundabouts.
Clegg presided over Lib Dem’s decimation, but also led them into government for the first time in the history.
Failed to deliver on his tuition fees pledge but delivered a fairer system in terms of what is basically a low level graduate tax.
In terms of pupil premium Clegg and Lib Dem’s has done more for Social Mobility than the majority of those who preceded him and judging but the recent actions of Milburn and the commission all those who followed him.
Clegg rejected a peerage as he didn’t want a state funded job for life, compare that with John Prescott a deputy PM who did bugger all.0 -
The Liberals were in power long before Clegg was born .
Different party
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The one that left a note in the treasury saying money all gone for a start the one that sold our gold reserves and the one that gave loads of people in local councils jobs that didn’t need to be done by the amount of people they had doing themStig said:What road is that then?
But let’s forget about that government and the damage it done8 - Sponsored links:
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don't have to do much to get one do you. Absolute joke.0
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Did you, or your son, ever believe that the Libs were going to stop University fees?seth plum said:My son has nearly 50 grand of uni debt and has worked since graduating but it continues to increase due to interest. He would need to earn 41k per year for it to start to decrease. He was in the first group of 9k fees and it was too late at the time to change plans.
Clegg and his ilk are utter cnuts with no redeeming features.
It is the oldest trick in the book to promise the earth in the event that something outstandingly unlikely happens.
Ever heard anyone say ‘If this happens, I’ll eat my hat!’
He was never going to be able to make the Tories stump up the money to allow 40% of the population to have a three year funded party at University. Back when 5% went it was affordable - now it isn’t.
Your anger reminds me of the chap that comes on here bemoaning a couple of quid that he believes he lost when we cancelled our subscription to the FLi website and CAFC Player. Have another glass of Port and ‘relax’!1 -
They tripled fees at a stroke and now charge over 6% interest.kings hill addick said:
Did you, or your son, ever believe that the Libs were going to stop University fees?seth plum said:My son has nearly 50 grand of uni debt and has worked since graduating but it continues to increase due to interest. He would need to earn 41k per year for it to start to decrease. He was in the first group of 9k fees and it was too late at the time to change plans.
Clegg and his ilk are utter cnuts with no redeeming features.
It is the oldest trick in the book to promise the earth in the event that something outstandingly unlikely happens.
Ever heard anyone say ‘If this happens, I’ll eat my hat!’
He was never going to be able to make the Tories stump up the money to allow 40% of the population to have a three year funded party at University. Back when 5% went it was affordable - now it isn’t.
Your anger reminds me of the chap that comes on here bemoaning a couple of quid that he believes he lost when we cancelled our subscription to the FLi website and CAFC Player. Have another glass of Port and ‘relax’!
If you think that's great then fine, but instead you come on Charlton Life to patronise for some reason. With the additional dressing that University Education is only a three year party anyway.
All in the context of quoting my post. Snide behaviour in my opinion, perhaps it is a side effect of Port.
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Reality of government, particularly when you never expected to govern. I felt sorry for Clegg how it turned out. Truth is the state can't fund university places now just about everyone seems to go.
By the way, student debt is a misnomer. It's essentially a graduate tax, not a debt like a personal loan.3 -
Yes, but not before I get my gong....Cordoban Addick said:The whole honour's system is wank and needs to be abolished.
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Congrats to Nick Clegg arise Sir Two Bob of Twat.1
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For the sake of balance, I thought I’d post this from the Facebook feed of a Libdem I have contact with.
Please note- not my own thoughts or opinions. Am posting purely due to my perceived need for a bit of balance in this thread.
So the bloke who led the party that gave us more free childcare for under 2s than ever before to help give respite to single parents, that gave us the Pupil Premium so that primary school kids who need extra help can get it, who gave us free school meals for primary kids and more apprenticeship.places than ever before in history for 16-18 year olds that don't go on to further education, who gave us the Youth Contract that guaranteed a place to earn or learn for every unemployed 18-21 year old, who took over 3 million low earners and part time workers out of income tax completely and put over £800 back into over 26 million workers pockets, who gave our elderly the highest ever increase in the basic state pension TWICE, who started the clampdown on tax avoidance by the most wealthy individuals in the Country at HMRC and brought us the Banking Reform Act to stop casino banking...... all while coming THIRD in a General Election and having just 8.7% of seats in the House of Commons and being outnumbered by 5 Tory MPs to each LibDem MP in coalition.
I think this is the first Knighthood that's been deserved for ages.
Congratulations Nick Clegg! And while you are at it you also managed to annoy Daily Mail and Sun readers too.
My hero!
Personally... I like the idea of politicians being multilingual.
Can see how Clegg is both a sell out and someone who made progress towards what he wanted to achieve through compromise.0 -
'Try'.... it was nothing more than an ego trip that killed the libdems and mugs like me fell for it with the tuition fees tripe.nth london addick said:
He had the fortitude to try and influence a government that was needed after the labour imbeciles had bled us dry and taken us to a road of no return
What else could he have done joined labour and made a collation with them ?1 -
I suspect the peerage may have been promised way bck, as part of the deal to get Clegg to go into coalition with the tories.1
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Dame Arlene?JamesSeed said:I suspect the peerage may have been promised way bck, as part of the deal to get Clegg to go into coalition with the tories.
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