Recent downturn - General thoughts
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Still think this is a weak League One this season. Think back to 09/10 when Leeds, Norwich, Millwall, Southampton, Swindon (with Charlie Austin), Huddersfield and us were all in there.
That was a tough league.
I can only echo what others have said about our tactics being found out and not having a back up. Plus our players keep making the wrong key decisions.
Until the takeover goes through, we are here to stay.5 -
Let's face it when the people running the club have no ambition, mediocrity is the best we can hope for.
Just sell de cloob.11 -
Happened with other managers during this regime, very difficult to have a plan B with no squad depth. We can't play any formation that involves two strikers for example, because we've got only one half-decent striker.JoshAddick said:teams have started to work us out and robinson has no plan b. simple as that
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Nope, I don't think he has enough interest or input.Macronate said:Duchatelet.
He's cast a general malaise over the entire club. It won't go until he's gone.
Meire. Her giggling ineptitude has spread down the ranks. I fear a bottom half finish and the usual platitudes at the end of the season.0 -
Yet when KAG started scoring he was dropped and played wide.JoshrewCAFC said:
Happened with other managers during this regime, very difficult to have a plan B with no squad depth. We can't play any formation that involves two strikers for example, because we've got only one half-decent striker.JoshAddick said:teams have started to work us out and robinson has no plan b. simple as that
Can't even stick Reeco Hackett-fairchild on the bench because they have to play Dodoo despite him never getting on.3 -
Haha ...... I don't know about being denied orgasm, they looked long past their sell-by date for that.Raith_C_Chattonell said:This video reminds me of supporting Charlton. You turn up full of hope and expectation ... and then ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBBK2hjcPuA
But proper Charlton,
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He appointed Meire.Baldybonce said:
Nope, I don't think he has enough interest or input.Macronate said:Duchatelet.
He's cast a general malaise over the entire club. It won't go until he's gone.
Meire. Her giggling ineptitude has spread down the ranks. I fear a bottom half finish and the usual platitudes at the end of the season.0 -
Maybe our tactics are too obvious and therefore easy to negate, sit on Holmes, or watch Magennis and that about does it. Unless the other 'striker' or winger has something abou then it's game over. Then confidence drops, it shows in Holmes as he starts over hitting crosses or snatching at shots. We don't have a true leader in midfield either it seems, that can consistently boss a game. Finally we also have missed Pearce's leadership in defence, and have started conceding loads of goals. Overall confidence has gradually slipped and we are tending to play overly deep defensive keep ball. This is Robinsons team and his formation, he bought into Duche's small squad thing and although he's likeable he doesn't seem to be more than an average manager at this level.2
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I don't think he appointed her as so much as gave the club to her.Macronate said:
He appointed Meire.Baldybonce said:
Nope, I don't think he has enough interest or input.Macronate said:Duchatelet.
He's cast a general malaise over the entire club. It won't go until he's gone.
Meire. Her giggling ineptitude has spread down the ranks. I fear a bottom half finish and the usual platitudes at the end of the season.0 -
PWR
Too many issues to mention - but the main ones are:
No strikers
No strikers
No strikers
too much tippy-tappy football
No plan B
Not really a plan A
We weren't that special at the start of the season - won most of the games by the odd goal & not dominated a single team. The only time we've scored more than 3 (Northampton) 2 goals came in injury time. I'm not expecting to play & score like Man City, but any team looking to be in at least the top 6 should be putting a few teams to bed by the 75 min mark.
As I said, I could go on, and on, and on, and on...........but I'll leave that to KR who believes that we were the better team today. Someone tell the f**ker that we lost !!!!
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Not buying this small squad stuff. Robinson is being found out. He’s make and continues to make poor decisions. KAG scores 3 in 3 and then gets dropped out the starting eleven. Magennis plays every minute is largely ineffective but still plays. Dodoo may be poor but to be fair to him he’s never had a chance. He is now a wasted space on the bench. Robinson sticks with his formation and despite it not working refuses to change. As someone said this is a carbon copy of his time at MK. He recruited the injury prone Reeves and Page. He sanctioned the departure of Novak without suitable replacement. I could go on. Do the likes of Shrewsbury, Scunthorpe etc have so much better squads than us? I don’t think so. The manager has a lot to answer for but escapes any serious scrutiny. I know it’s difficult to get a word in edge ways but someone ought to ask a few tough questions.17
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Trying to think of a name that sums up the shitness of P***** and Millwall winning, England getting destroyed in the cricket and us losing, again, on the same day.2
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A Fraeye Day1StevieG said:Trying to think of a name that sums up the shitness of P***** and Millwall winning, England getting destroyed in the cricket and us losing, again, on the same day.
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This is the worst leauge one in 5 years. In the window no team will spend more than £200,000. Wigan and Blackburn don't need to, and Shrewsbury etc have no money. We will continue to slide and finish 8th -10th. Starting to get to the point, that I actually just don't care. Thanks Roland, thanks
Karl ( an yes I do think he is to blame) you have destroyed 55 years of supporting charlton for me.
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I’m normally an optimist and yet, tonight, I can’t disagree with this.RaplhMilne said:This is the worst leauge one in 5 years. In the window no team will spend more than £200,000. Wigan and Blackburn don't need to, and Shrewsbury etc have no money. We will continue to slide and finish 8th -10th. Starting to get to the point, that I actually just don't care. Thanks Roland, thanks
Karl ( an yes I do think he is to blame) you have destroyed 55 years of supporting charlton for me.0 -
I've never rated him, he managed a team that finished below us the season we went down from the championship and we were shite that season.The Red Robin said:Robinson is a good coach but he cannot adapt within a game. Poor tactically. He could do with a bit of experience as an assistant rather than Bowyer and Jackson.
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Why'd Novak go though.AFKABartram said:Think the 'Sussed out' stuff is a bit too basic to be honest
One thing that has hit home. Letting Lee Novak go with no replacement lined up / through the door looks utterly ridiculous, amateurish at best
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Wanted to get back up North didn't he? Sometimes players are let go on compassionate grounds especially if his head would have been all over the place had he stayed and no use to man or beast.clb74 said:
Why'd Novak go though.AFKABartram said:Think the 'Sussed out' stuff is a bit too basic to be honest
One thing that has hit home. Letting Lee Novak go with no replacement lined up / through the door looks utterly ridiculous, amateurish at best
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That's a bit harsh on Karl, Ralph.RaplhMilne said:
Karl ( an yes I do think he is to blame) you have destroyed 55 years of supporting charlton for me.
In your 55 years of supporting Charlton (53 for me) - we've had better managers than Karl, but we've had worse too.
He's got his limitations .... but then he's a Third Division manager at a Third Division club with Third Division players.
Otherwise he'd be managing at a higher level.
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So it was nothing to do with him playing 2nd fiddle to Josh.RedChaser said:
Wanted to get back up North didn't he? Sometimes players are let go on compassionate grounds especially if his head would have been all over the place had he stayed and no use to man or beast.clb74 said:
Why'd Novak go though.AFKABartram said:Think the 'Sussed out' stuff is a bit too basic to be honest
One thing that has hit home. Letting Lee Novak go with no replacement lined up / through the door looks utterly ridiculous, amateurish at best
Robinson's only ever going to play one up front
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The players could do with letting their hair down, a trip to Newcastle might be in order!4
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Possibly but that has never been given as the main reason as far as I can remember and his chances of getting a move were better based on personal reasons. I seem to recall that he may have cut short his contact for a not so lucrative 'free transfer' unless I dreamt itclb74 said:
So it was nothing to do with him playing 2nd fiddle to Josh.RedChaser said:
Wanted to get back up North didn't he? Sometimes players are let go on compassionate grounds especially if his head would have been all over the place had he stayed and no use to man or beast.clb74 said:
Why'd Novak go though.AFKABartram said:Think the 'Sussed out' stuff is a bit too basic to be honest
One thing that has hit home. Letting Lee Novak go with no replacement lined up / through the door looks utterly ridiculous, amateurish at best
Robinson's only ever going to play one up front
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We were punching above our weight when we were 3rd. Winning by an odd goal, been very few convincing victories.0
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Don't forget Novak couldn't score either.3
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Charltonised, he's bagged 4 with 1 assist for Scunny;EveshamAddick said:Don't forget Novak couldn't score either.
Lee Novak
252 mins per goal
1009 mins played
4 Goals scored
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I've heard the "we have no plan b" tag line so many times over the years. It's such lazy analysis and unoriginal. It also means nothing.
We've just lost some very creative members of the first team, and lost the defensive solidity of Bauer and Pearce (the latter who played well today).4 -
I think fans at the start of the season were a little guilty of thinking our players were better than they are. We are an ok team for League One who struggle to compete against the better teams we have generally been playing recently.
We also have no striker of any real ability.2 -
Same could be said about "paper thin squad". Reeves, Marshall and Best should be capable at this level. Reeves looked a good player today (watching the stream) but should have done better with his chances.cafcnick1992 said:I've heard the "we have no plan b" tag line so many times over the years. It's such lazy analysis and unoriginal. It also means nothing.
We've just lost some very creative members of the first team, and lost the defensive solidity of Bauer and Pearce (the latter who played well today).0 -
Can anyone see us getting anything out of the next 4 games? Blackpool could be one of those games we expect to win but won't. We never seem to do anything at Southend. Wigan away - forget it. Gillingham seem to have replaced Millwall as a bogey team we can't beat. Hard to see the end of the slump.0
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Four massive games for Robinson-the two homes should generate 6 points and I'd hope for at least a point at Southend. Looking at the posts here and on the match thread, there's some stick coming his way sooner rather than later (has he not got us playing the way we should anymore?) and things have to turn around asap.
Although he has limitations I hope KR stays for as long as Roland does as I dread to think who he would replace him with particularly whilst he's looking to sell up.0
