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  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    them sweet jars, wilko, bhs all do them usually in the xmas gifting section, at a fraction of the cost - stupid idea wont make much out of it.

    michaelas idea aswell working in the target market - we wouldn't use it and its too pricey.

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    It would be typical with Palace fluking their way to underserved wins, if someone from Croydon flukes her way to an undeserved win in The Apprentice
  • sralan
    sralan Posts: 2,031
    With those two in the final I think Sugar has finally lost the plot. The only one worth hiring was Michaela, certainly not James the spiv, who uses a false accreditation and was sacked from his last job. Seriously think the show has run its course.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,853
    Yes Sralan
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,243
    I agree with whoever said the show has become a strong out version of dragons den

    It needs to go back to being like an interview for a job, this bullshit about business plans just screws it up
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    I think Michaela's string of businesses is a concern, and I suspect that there is a lot more dirty laundry than was revealed on the show
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    sralan said:

    With those two in the final I think Sugar has finally lost the plot. The only one worth hiring was Michaela, certainly not James the spiv, who uses a false accreditation and was sacked from his last job. Seriously think the show has run its course.

    Isn’t this fraud? Albeit relatively minor. The show has many flaws but I forgive most of them because it often adds to the entertainment and if Sugar wants to waste his money then that’s his prerogative, but one area it needs to be stronger on is business ethics. Many weeks a team will be allowed to lie or missell to people and get a minor slap on the wrist in the boardroom but sometimes still win the task. I’d like to see contestants disqualified or st least automatically lose the task, especially for something as serious as this.
  • Brendan_O_Connell
    Brendan_O_Connell Posts: 8,938
    edited December 2017
    Exiled_Addick said:

    sralan said:

    With those two in the final I think Sugar has finally lost the plot. The only one worth hiring was Michaela, certainly not James the spiv, who uses a false accreditation and was sacked from his last job. Seriously think the show has run its course.

    Isn’t this fraud? Albeit relatively minor. The show has many flaws but I forgive most of them because it often adds to the entertainment and if Sugar wants to waste his money then that’s his prerogative, but one area it needs to be stronger on is business ethics. Many weeks a team will be allowed to lie or missell to people and get a minor slap on the wrist in the boardroom but sometimes still win the task. I’d like to see contestants disqualified or st least automatically lose the task, especially for something as serious as this.
    It can be construed as fraud, albeit it a very light version. I used to work with a really arrogant guy, who although was very clever had never passed an exam in his life. He used to claim on his Linkedin profile, CV and business card he was ACCA qualified and often used to boast how he’d never studied but would put the letters after his name for show (despite only being employed because they thought he was qualified). As someone who took a very long (and stressful) time to pass all of my ACCA exams, I used to hate him for it, but would never grass. One morning our company got a copy of a letter sent him from the ACCA telling him in no uncertain terms if he didn’t remove all reference of the ACCA from his profile etc. he’d be taken to court. A week later he left and was never heard from again.

    I expect the recruitment body here would do the same, warn him then take action if their request was not adhered to.

  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    killerandflash said:

    5 lousy business propositions, you could have fired all five of them tonight!

    He did say it was incredibly tough to choose.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    palarsehater said:

    them sweet jars, wilko, bhs all do them usually in the xmas gifting section, at a fraction of the cost - stupid idea wont make much out of it.

    michaelas idea aswell working in the target market - we wouldn't use it and its too pricey.

    Michaela was pitching the cost effective alternative I thought. £4k to do whatever it is they do? Is that cheap?
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  • rina
    rina Posts: 2,334
    seeing as Sugar's main concern with Michaela was that she had all those other businesses I can't figure out why she didn't point out that she's had other people running them without her for the duration of the process
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    edited December 2017
    Brendan_O_Connell said:

    Exiled_Addick said:

    sralan said:

    With those two in the final I think Sugar has finally lost the plot. The only one worth hiring was Michaela, certainly not James the spiv, who uses a false accreditation and was sacked from his last job. Seriously think the show has run its course.

    Isn’t this fraud? Albeit relatively minor. The show has many flaws but I forgive most of them because it often adds to the entertainment and if Sugar wants to waste his money then that’s his prerogative, but one area it needs to be stronger on is business ethics. Many weeks a team will be allowed to lie or missell to people and get a minor slap on the wrist in the boardroom but sometimes still win the task. I’d like to see contestants disqualified or st least automatically lose the task, especially for something as serious as this.
    It can be construed as fraud, albeit it a very light version. I used to work with a really arrogant guy, who although was very clever had never passed an exam in his life. He used to claim on his Linkedin profile, CV and business card he was ACCA qualified and often used to boast how he’d never studied but would put the letters after his name for show (despite only being employed because they thought he was qualified). As someone who took a very long (and stressful) time to pass all of my ACCA exams, I used to hate him for it, but would never grass. One morning our company got a copy of a letter sent him from the ACCA telling him in no uncertain terms if he didn’t remove all reference of the ACCA from his profile etc. he’d be taken to court. A week later he left and was never heard from again.

    I expect the recruitment body here would do the same, warn him then take action if their request was not adhered to.

    I did ACCA too so feel your pain. Horrendous episode of my life! :-)
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:


    Brendan_O_Connell said:

    Exiled_Addick said:

    sralan said:

    With those two in the final I think Sugar has finally lost the plot. The only one worth hiring was Michaela, certainly not James the spiv, who uses a false accreditation and was sacked from his last job. Seriously think the show has run its course.

    Isn’t this fraud? Albeit relatively minor. The show has many flaws but I forgive most of them because it often adds to the entertainment and if Sugar wants to waste his money then that’s his prerogative, but one area it needs to be stronger on is business ethics. Many weeks a team will be allowed to lie or missell to people and get a minor slap on the wrist in the boardroom but sometimes still win the task. I’d like to see contestants disqualified or st least automatically lose the task, especially for something as serious as this.
    It can be construed as fraud, albeit it a very light version. I used to work with a really arrogant guy, who although was very clever had never passed an exam in his life. He used to claim on his Linkedin profile, CV and business card he was ACCA qualified and often used to boast how he’d never studied but would put the letters after his name for show (despite only being employed because they thought he was qualified). As someone who took a very long (and stressful) time to pass all of my ACCA exams, I used to hate him for it, but would never grass. One morning our company got a copy of a letter sent him from the ACCA telling him in no uncertain terms if he didn’t remove all reference of the ACCA from his profile etc. he’d be taken to court. A week later he left and was never heard from again.

    I expect the recruitment body here would do the same, warn him then take action if their request was not adhered to.

    I did ACCA too so feel your pain. Horrendous episode of my life! :-)
    So you've both been certified then :wink:
  • Charlton and on
    Charlton and on Posts: 964
    Exiled_Addick said:

    sralan said:

    With those two in the final I think Sugar has finally lost the plot. The only one worth hiring was Michaela, certainly not James the spiv, who uses a false accreditation and was sacked from his last job. Seriously think the show has run its course.

    Isn’t this fraud? Albeit relatively minor. The show has many flaws but I forgive most of them because it often adds to the entertainment and if Sugar wants to waste his money then that’s his prerogative, but one area it needs to be stronger on is business ethics. Many weeks a team will be allowed to lie or missell to people and get a minor slap on the wrist in the boardroom but sometimes still win the task. I’d like to see contestants disqualified or st least automatically lose the task, especially for something as serious as this.
    I wonder if he takes a salary to be on the show?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:


    Brendan_O_Connell said:

    Exiled_Addick said:

    sralan said:

    With those two in the final I think Sugar has finally lost the plot. The only one worth hiring was Michaela, certainly not James the spiv, who uses a false accreditation and was sacked from his last job. Seriously think the show has run its course.

    Isn’t this fraud? Albeit relatively minor. The show has many flaws but I forgive most of them because it often adds to the entertainment and if Sugar wants to waste his money then that’s his prerogative, but one area it needs to be stronger on is business ethics. Many weeks a team will be allowed to lie or missell to people and get a minor slap on the wrist in the boardroom but sometimes still win the task. I’d like to see contestants disqualified or st least automatically lose the task, especially for something as serious as this.
    It can be construed as fraud, albeit it a very light version. I used to work with a really arrogant guy, who although was very clever had never passed an exam in his life. He used to claim on his Linkedin profile, CV and business card he was ACCA qualified and often used to boast how he’d never studied but would put the letters after his name for show (despite only being employed because they thought he was qualified). As someone who took a very long (and stressful) time to pass all of my ACCA exams, I used to hate him for it, but would never grass. One morning our company got a copy of a letter sent him from the ACCA telling him in no uncertain terms if he didn’t remove all reference of the ACCA from his profile etc. he’d be taken to court. A week later he left and was never heard from again.

    I expect the recruitment body here would do the same, warn him then take action if their request was not adhered to.

    I did ACCA too so feel your pain. Horrendous episode of my life! :-)
    If you both did ACCA, then you're clearly sad losers

    Sorry, the competitive CIMA accountant in me coming out :smiley:
  • Brendan_O_Connell
    Brendan_O_Connell Posts: 8,938
    killerandflash said:

    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:


    Brendan_O_Connell said:

    Exiled_Addick said:

    sralan said:

    With those two in the final I think Sugar has finally lost the plot. The only one worth hiring was Michaela, certainly not James the spiv, who uses a false accreditation and was sacked from his last job. Seriously think the show has run its course.

    Isn’t this fraud? Albeit relatively minor. The show has many flaws but I forgive most of them because it often adds to the entertainment and if Sugar wants to waste his money then that’s his prerogative, but one area it needs to be stronger on is business ethics. Many weeks a team will be allowed to lie or missell to people and get a minor slap on the wrist in the boardroom but sometimes still win the task. I’d like to see contestants disqualified or st least automatically lose the task, especially for something as serious as this.
    It can be construed as fraud, albeit it a very light version. I used to work with a really arrogant guy, who although was very clever had never passed an exam in his life. He used to claim on his Linkedin profile, CV and business card he was ACCA qualified and often used to boast how he’d never studied but would put the letters after his name for show (despite only being employed because they thought he was qualified). As someone who took a very long (and stressful) time to pass all of my ACCA exams, I used to hate him for it, but would never grass. One morning our company got a copy of a letter sent him from the ACCA telling him in no uncertain terms if he didn’t remove all reference of the ACCA from his profile etc. he’d be taken to court. A week later he left and was never heard from again.

    I expect the recruitment body here would do the same, warn him then take action if their request was not adhered to.

    I did ACCA too so feel your pain. Horrendous episode of my life! :-)
    If you both did ACCA, then you're clearly sad losers

    Sorry, the competitive CIMA accountant in me coming out :smiley:
    CIMA

    Chartered Institute of Mediocre Accountants..... :wink:
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Brendan_O_Connell said:

    killerandflash said:

    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:


    Brendan_O_Connell said:

    Exiled_Addick said:

    sralan said:

    With those two in the final I think Sugar has finally lost the plot. The only one worth hiring was Michaela, certainly not James the spiv, who uses a false accreditation and was sacked from his last job. Seriously think the show has run its course.

    Isn’t this fraud? Albeit relatively minor. The show has many flaws but I forgive most of them because it often adds to the entertainment and if Sugar wants to waste his money then that’s his prerogative, but one area it needs to be stronger on is business ethics. Many weeks a team will be allowed to lie or missell to people and get a minor slap on the wrist in the boardroom but sometimes still win the task. I’d like to see contestants disqualified or st least automatically lose the task, especially for something as serious as this.
    It can be construed as fraud, albeit it a very light version. I used to work with a really arrogant guy, who although was very clever had never passed an exam in his life. He used to claim on his Linkedin profile, CV and business card he was ACCA qualified and often used to boast how he’d never studied but would put the letters after his name for show (despite only being employed because they thought he was qualified). As someone who took a very long (and stressful) time to pass all of my ACCA exams, I used to hate him for it, but would never grass. One morning our company got a copy of a letter sent him from the ACCA telling him in no uncertain terms if he didn’t remove all reference of the ACCA from his profile etc. he’d be taken to court. A week later he left and was never heard from again.

    I expect the recruitment body here would do the same, warn him then take action if their request was not adhered to.

    I did ACCA too so feel your pain. Horrendous episode of my life! :-)
    If you both did ACCA, then you're clearly sad losers

    Sorry, the competitive CIMA accountant in me coming out :smiley:
    CIMA

    Chartered Institute of Mediocre Accountants..... :wink:
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  • Powell Is Pleasant
    Powell Is Pleasant Posts: 1,443
    McBobbin said:

    Macronate said:

    £18 for some cheapo sweets in an old silver skin pickled onion jar.

    Yeah, good choice Al.

    To be fair, her sweets are easily distinguished from the opposition on account of a bow
    I loved that bit! It was adorable watching her trying to give reasons why her business is unique and better than the competition.
    "The cups are packed by hand..."
    "There's a little bow on top..."
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,334
    i wonder who would win The Apprentice if the Strictly contestants took part.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    I don't know about Strictly contestants but...

    "You made some terrible decisions, and your strategy was hopeless. A complete shambles, Trevor Bayliss, you're fired"
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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,853
    thai malaysia addick said:

    i wonder who would win The Apprentice if the Strictly contestants took part.

    I would go Alexandra Burke as she seems quite focussed and driven.
  • alan dugdale
    alan dugdale Posts: 3,076
    MrOneLung said:

    thai malaysia addick said:

    i wonder who would win The Apprentice if the Strictly contestants took part.

    I would go Alexandra Burke as she seems quite focussed and driven.
    Agreed. She’d fit right in, given the number of other burkes in this year’s show.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    MrOneLung said:

    thai malaysia addick said:

    i wonder who would win The Apprentice if the Strictly contestants took part.

    I would go Alexandra Burke as she seems quite focussed and driven.
    A lot of tears in the boardroom though!
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    Parts of The Apprentice tonight filmed at our company in Islington. www.rapidity.com
    As ever, will probably be disappointed with the amount of exposure.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    I'd like to see Alan Sugar and the interview panel on the dance program. As contestants
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    Thoughts?
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    Didn't see that coming at all. Thought Sarah came across really well and would have backed her if I was lord sugar.

    Imagine just having half a million quid to, on a whim, invest in two people ffs
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,207
    Each way bet.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    I thought Sarah was the best candidate from the start, but I think it was a good decision as James seemed equally credible in the final.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    I was impressed with that box design that Sarah came up with, it showed creativity and drive that I didn't think she had

    Thankfully, the decision is based on the individuals, not on the bits of the task done by their other team members, which were dreadful...

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