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England v Germany (Joe Gomez comes on) (friendly Nov 2017)

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Yellow card for Gomez just before half time.
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548
    Decent half, Loftus Cheek looks good
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,892
    Maguire looks a decent player.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Laddick01 said:

    If we don’t play 3 at the back in Russia we are mugs

    If we play Henderson then we're mugs... Id probably swap Abraham / Gomez / Livermore for Kane / Jones (If fit) / Winks and thats it

    Alli and Sterling can then work for their appearances in Russia
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    edited November 2017
    Macronate said:

    Maguire looks a decent player.

    Maguire is slow, doesn't move the ball quick enough and got caught ball watching once.

    Apart from that....
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Looks like a typical bad England team.

    German team are walking around and England still don't look better than them.
  • Plumstead_Micky
    Plumstead_Micky Posts: 932
    Much better to watch than the usual first choice 11.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    This is so much better than the shite served up against Slovenia and Lithuania recently. Should play the kids more often, Henderson et al are never going to achieve anything for England, the kids just might
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    I understand wanting defenders who are comfortable on the ball, but we still need to defend and are Maguire and Gomez good enough defensively at the moment, especially against the best teams?
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    I have enjoyed the game but the Germans look dangerous.
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    killerandflash said:

    I understand wanting defenders who are comfortable on the ball, but we still need to defend and are Maguire and Gomez good enough defensively at the moment, especially against the best teams?

    Gomez and Maguire are currently doing fine against Germany.... GERMANY.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    I’d have Livermore and Loftus-Cheek ahead of Henderson. Loftus-Cheek has done more in 45 mins than Henderson has in his last 10 caps.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Was watching on ITV hub but the stream has died :disappointed:
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Dazzler21 said:

    killerandflash said:

    I understand wanting defenders who are comfortable on the ball, but we still need to defend and are Maguire and Gomez good enough defensively at the moment, especially against the best teams?

    Gomez and Maguire are currently doing fine against Germany.... GERMANY.
    An under strength Germany, not playing at full tilt...
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    Who is Pickford ???
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Dazzler21 said:

    Was watching on ITV hub but the stream has died :disappointed:

    Not had any problems here.
  • addickfanatic
    addickfanatic Posts: 1,113
    Great to see Pickford having a good game.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    AFKABartram said:

    Who is Pickford ???

    Everton goalie. Bought him for 30 odd million in the summer off Sunderland.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    AFKABartram said:

    Who is Pickford ???

    Van hire bloke.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Dazzler21 said:

    killerandflash said:

    I understand wanting defenders who are comfortable on the ball, but we still need to defend and are Maguire and Gomez good enough defensively at the moment, especially against the best teams?

    Gomez and Maguire are currently doing fine against Germany.... GERMANY.
    If you think this is the same Germany that play in competitive games you're dreaming.

    They look like they're having a stroll today.
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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited November 2017
    killerandflash said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    killerandflash said:

    I understand wanting defenders who are comfortable on the ball, but we still need to defend and are Maguire and Gomez good enough defensively at the moment, especially against the best teams?

    Gomez and Maguire are currently doing fine against Germany.... GERMANY.
    An under strength Germany, not playing at full tilt...
    I should imagine more of the German starting 11 will start for them in Russia than the England 11 that will start for us.
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    It’s a shame he’s on loan at Palace. Loftus-Cheek has been like a Rolls Royce tonight
  • bellz2002
    bellz2002 Posts: 1,361
    I'm optimistic about our kids coming through. I think we'll be fine for years now. May take a couple of years for it to have an impact but I'm more optimistic now about our future than I have been for years.
  • addickfanatic
    addickfanatic Posts: 1,113
    Dizzle said:

    It’s a shame he’s on loan at Palace. Loftus-Cheek has been like a Rolls Royce tonight

    Unlike Henderson who’s been playing like a Robin reliant in the last few games
  • delroofer
    delroofer Posts: 857
    Giving Joe a team talk when I sponsored him
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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    moutuakilla said:

    This is so much better than the shite served up against Slovenia and Lithuania recently. Should play the kids more often, Henderson et al are never going to achieve anything for England, the kids just might

    But the big difference is Germany have come out and attacked and left space in behind. It's why I don't really understand these friendlies against big teams (jk, it's money). England's problem is breaking down teams who sit deep and don't allow space in behind. Slovakia, Slovenia, Scotland, Wales, Russia, Iceland. That's not to say that they'll beat better teams, but they're far better suited to sitting deep and hitting teams with pace and power on the counter. Remember Vardy's appearances in the Euros? Yeah, me neither because he came on against packed defenses and he's not good against those. Harry Kane? Yup, same there (though he has the tools to do better).

    It remains to be seen if 3-5-2/3-4-3 is the answer to that. I don't think it's a terrible shout to at least give it a try. But would it have helped break down Russia, Wales, Slovakia, and Iceland? I'm not convinced.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Surely that was a backpass from Gomez then?
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,454
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Surely that was a backpass from Gomez then?

    Can only assume Sane got a faint touch as nobody appealed for a back pass
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    bellz2002 said:

    I'm optimistic about our kids coming through. I think we'll be fine for years now. May take a couple of years for it to have an impact but I'm more optimistic now about our future than I have been for years.

    And it should be noted that the core of the England first team is still quite young. I think they were the youngest or second youngest team at the Euros.

    You have:
    Butland (24)
    Pickford (23)
    Stones (23)
    Keane (24)
    Dier (23)
    Lingard (24)
    Sterling (22 FFS!)
    Alli (21 FFS)
    Ox (24)
    Kane (24)
    Rashford (20)

    And that's not including players who are coming through the successful youth teams, or even the likes of Loftus-Cheek, who is a real prospect, Gomez, Abraham, etc.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,810
    Pickford looks an excellent keeper

    And RLC is a proper player!!!

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