Ludlow Hospital refuses funding

iainment said:

Isn't the issue that the NHS shouldn't need funding like this.

I'm pretty sure the NHS has always used and appreciated fundraising, Lewisham hospital certainly did after I was born in 1985.

Stu_of_Kunming said:

iainment said:

Isn't the issue that the NHS shouldn't need funding like this.

I'm pretty sure the NHS has always used and appreciated fundraising, Lewisham hospital certainly did after I was born in 1985.

was the money raised for the exorcism ?

I've written put about 4 drafts but none can really put across how stupid this is. Besides anything else plenty of you have done it already.

I woukd say, I simply cannot believe this woman is that moronic, but I can. I see decisions like this made daily by professional morons like her

Carter said:

I've written put about 4 drafts but none can really put across how stupid this is. Besides anything else plenty of you have done it already.

I woukd say, I simply cannot believe this woman is that moronic, but I can. I see decisions like this made daily by professional morons like her

for what it's worth, over the past four/five years I have spent too long in hospital, about 5 weeks in total .. the nurses I have had the 'pleasure' of dealing with have been without exception professional and if not all very friendly, at the worst, VERY helpful ..
now and then the prettier ones had to put up with sexist banter from a patient under the misguided notion that he is a comedian .. the nurse(s) in question took it well, brushed it off and smiled through it .. BUT I have seen that more often than not it annoyed them but they didn't rise to the bait or make an issue of it

In the Ludlow case, yes the chaps in question were in it for a good cause, but why not dress as doctors rather than go for the 'Ooooohhhhhh matron' sexy little nurses approach .. A good laugh, little harm done perhaps, but I know that a lot of nurses will be thinking along the lines 'here we go again, more caricature of a negative nature' ..

Even up north that can't be called sexy, surely.

Is anyone else waiting for Henners to come back on this thread after saying he's out so they can simply say "I thought you said you were out"

JiMMy 85 said:

I thought it was mad that they turned the money down. I figured, surely the best thing to do is to take the money, and quietly explain to the men involved why their approach is not ideal, and maybe next year come up with a new plan.

But then someone told me that's what happened last year. These guys HAVE been told to stop doing it, but they went ahead and did it anyway.

Whether some middle-aged men on here agree or not, nurses do appear to find this demeaning. I know this, cos I just asked a load of them, and while they're not waving pitch forks, nor are they outraged, they do seem to think "sigh, I wish my work uniform wasn't sexualised" among other things.

And nurses, more than anyone else I can think of, deserve respect. And definitely deserve to be listened to. There is no sensible comparison to be made to drag queens or TV presenters, and it's not "PC gone made!". I detest the phrase 'political correctness' cos it's a lazy, and often a meaningless catch-all term for anyone that doesn't understand the finer points of what's being objected to.

The Trust have made a pig's ear of this, no doubt, but they have a sound and valid point.

no more to be written/typed/said .. my sentiments exactly

It is 2017 after all. Everybody has to be offended by something.

What do male nurses think of all this?

I wonder why some nurses find this demeaning though? Is it blokes dressed up as female nurses, or anyone who isn't a nurse dressed up as nurses?


As for lack of respect, I'd bet my life that those who do get dressed up as nurses or doctors etc. to raise money for these types of charitable causes have noth but respect for the professionals involved.

fucking hell best not go up to scotland plenty of men wearing skirts.

Oliver Cromwell?

Fiiish said:

cafcfan said:

iainment said:

Isn't the issue that the NHS shouldn't need funding like this.

That's one of the issues. The other is that this silly trust will be spending more dealing with the fall-out from this than the donation was worth. A pathetic waste of resources which should come straight out of the CEO's annual bonus.

The fact that there is anything beyond a single finance clerk whose job it is to process donations into the hospital's account is what is wrong with the situation. Instead you have the self-aggrandising pompous exec on a six figure salary who made this decision, no doubt flanked by a suite of pen-pushing sycophants, the dozen other board members who are suitably renumerated for their 45 minutes a week they spend on hospital business when they are not on the golf course (5 figure part-time director's salary plus lavish expense account of course), and some 'inclusion guru' who is paid a good sum of money to ensure no one is offended and spends most of her time laminating posters dictating 27 ways of avoiding discriminatory language.

Meanwhile a 77 year old woman down the corridor from where this million pound farce is taking place is being told she will need to wait another 9 months for a hip operation due to lack of funding.

Have you been spying on the senior management at my workplace?

I think that we should just ban everything.

Just to be on the safe side.

JiMMy 85 said:

palarsehater said:

without turning this into an argument, the word easter was removed from majority of easter eggs, so that they would not offend other faiths and other faiths could enjoy them, kingsmill have recently been halal approved. don't blame the companies as they want to sell as many of there products as possible.

So what part of the crucifixion do easter eggs relate to?

Jesus laid a couple when he was being nailed to the cross!

palarsehater said:

JiMMy 85 said:

palarsehater said:

without turning this into an argument, the word easter was removed from majority of easter eggs, so that they would not offend other faiths and other faiths could enjoy them, kingsmill have recently been halal approved. don't blame the companies as they want to sell as many of there products as possible.

So what part of the crucifixion do easter eggs relate to?

was another example of pc gone mad, which is connected to christmas as its a christian holiday to which this country was last time i checked.

UK Residents who identify as Christian: 43.8%
UK Residents who say they are not religious: 48.5%
Amount of chocolate eggs that have meaning in Christianity: 0

Easter eggs in the tradition of Christianity were chicken eggs painted red (to represent the blood of Christ, obvs) in Sunday School. What you're talking about is the commercialism of holidays. It's not about 'offending' other religions at all - there's no evidence of any other religions being offended. It's a commercial thing. As you concede, why would a corporation limit itself to one religion? It's not PC gone mad, by your own admission.

80m eggs are sold in the UK each year. But fewer than 28m people identify as Christian. So what's the problem in removing the religious connection? Especially if it opens up the tradition to more people?

The idea that this is a 'Christian country' is also, clearly, a misnomer given the aforementioned figures, and the church's (relatively) minimal influence on the state. For me, the idea that the heads of the church have any say in the governing of this country is utterly fucking insane. It's literally acceptable insanity. Muslim beliefs are as insane as Christian, Jewish or Scientology beliefs to me, and apparently to the majority in this country.