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Obstacle Racing - Is it designed to kill women?
Dazzler21
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What do the Ladies and Gentlemen of Charlton Life think of this?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4730102/Women-injured-Tough-Mudder-share-painful-tales.html
I have been absolutely stunned by this article and its content.
Have a read and let me know your thoughts...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4730102/Women-injured-Tough-Mudder-share-painful-tales.html
I have been absolutely stunned by this article and its content.
Have a read and let me know your thoughts...
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It's a lot safer in the kitchen5
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Dear Daily Mail
Fuck off.
Yours
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Thing is, the sole purpose of stuff like Tough Mudder is to punish you physically and mentally. It's not a stroll in the park. So if you don't know what you're doing, or haven't prepared yourself properly for the event, you will hurt yourself. My company is asking us if we want to do it this year "for a laugh" and I was appalled. I work in a cocktail bar and some of the people signing up for it are talking about taking water bottles full of rum around the course and people having to do shots everytime they fall off an obstacle.
People need to take responsibility for themselves and realise that an obstacle course is going to be fucking dangerous, unless it's designed for kids or is an Its a Knockout style inflatable one2 -
Would someone explain as I'm not clicking on a link for that lot.9
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I have a few friends and family members that compete in "tough mudders" and you basically get what it says on the tin.
Everyone knows what they are signing up too and if you take a look on YouTube it is there for all to see.
It is a physical participation sport, people get injured.
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I can't believe the article has been written by a woman!
Seriously WTF?
It's like it was written in the 18th Century.
Just to confirm I race these kind of races 3 or 4 times a year and am NOT on £63,000 a year or middle class
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Only skim read the article but didnt see why it is designed to kill women but not men ?0
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It's bizarre that people do this stuff without getting the appropriate insurance. I have no sympathy. It's a shame that that it costs the NHS money, time and resources.
Actually, no scrub that, it's just bizarre that people do this stuff at all.2 -
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The devil is in the detail:MrOneLung said:Only skim read the article but didnt see why it is designed to kill women but not men ?
"When Olivia Jones signed up for a Tough Mudder — one of the increasing number of obstacle course races held throughout the country — she knew it would be challenge. She even resigned herself to some minor cuts, bruises and bumps along the way.
But she had no inkling of the devastation her decision to take part would cause her."
"Thanks to gender equality in the workplace and constant messages of empowerment, many young women believe that whatever a man can do, they can do, too — including gruelling physical endurance feats."
'‘Women definitely need to be more careful. Generally, their knee ligaments are less protected and hence more vulnerable. Also, many women tend to have a slightly knock-kneed posture and internally rotated hips, which also puts strain on the knees.
‘On top of this, the strength of a woman’s ligaments is affected by their hormones and so this is affected by the menstrual cycle. Ligaments become more lax during the menstrual cycle, which means the knee is most probably more vulnerable to injury.’'
"Thanks to jumping into filthy water, I ended up with a horrible kidney infection that had to be treated with antibiotics. I took three weeks to recover. I’ve found out since that lots of other female contestants get the same thing. It’s almost an unspoken thing."
Note how all of these are women specific...
The article basically reads to me and others in the OCR world as saying women are not conditioned for these sorts of races which is BS.
Train properly and the likelihood of injury is heavily reduced.
Plus don't swallow muddy water - That's just stupid.0 - Sponsored links:
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I agree the insurances should be taken out, have I ever done so? No. of course not. Despite being middle class according to the article, I don't see a need for the insurance... Maybe I will change my mind if I pick up a knock.cafcfan said:It's bizarre that people do this stuff without getting the appropriate insurance. I have no sympathy. It's a shame that that it costs the NHS money, time and resources.
Actually, no scrub that, it's just bizarre that people do this stuff at all.
It's bizarre that people let themselves get obese and diseased costing the NHS money, time and resources. (Usually for a far more drawn out and permanent time and cost than a broken limb etc).
If you train right, you're a lot less likely to get injured. If you don't train at all you deserve what you get.
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'It’s an overwhelmingly middle-class activity: nearly half the participants of a Tough Mudder have an annual income of over £63,000, and entrance fees cost up to £150'
So the majority who take part don't earn that amount, but still, overwhelming.7 -
Don't go taking my new 'class' promotion away from me now.The Red Robin said:'It’s an overwhelmingly middle-class activity: nearly half the participants of a Tough Mudder have an annual income of over £63,000, and entrance fees cost up to £150'
So the majority who take part don't earn that amount, but still, overwhelming.6 -
Surely a man is just as likely to get a kidney infection from jumping into polluted water as a woman.1
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I have done a few marathons but no obstacle courses mainly because I am not sure I would have been able to do them tbh, and equally wasn't sure I really wanted to, anyway.
But when I was doing my marathon training, and got injured, and when I actually did the marathons, I recognised any injury incurred by me was down to me, unless there was a clear breach of reasonable safeguards from the event organisers, like them releasing venomous snakes or a herd of wildebeest onto the course as we staggered on our way.
It seems to me at times that some people feel they must be able to do difficult things other people do, without having any sense they have a responsibility to themselves to think about whether they can and should do it. Then they want to tell the whole world or blame someone else if it goes a bit wrong.
Luckily for me, I had the sort of formative education that enabled me to leave school knowing that if I jumped up to my mullet into muddy water, it might not be good for me if I swallowed the stuff. That's why I stopped swimming in the local sewage treatment plant and went on to avoid obstacle courses.
Clearly this woman's teachers failed her. She should sue them.5 -
women find it much harder to keep their mouths closed for any period of time.MuttleyCAFC said:Surely a man is just as likely to get a kidney infection from jumping into polluted water as a woman.
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The nearest I get to extreme sports is watching Charlton - in recent years, extremely bad sport, in fact.1
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The pic towards the end of the article is horrific. The hairy toe/sand/poor nail varnish combo has put me off my lunch!
Originally thought the article was full of sexist tripe, but actually, it's just a headline that sucks you in but actually makes a lot of sense. they're based on army style training boot camps and it's not meant to be a 'fun' run but a challenge. Train for it.3 -
Footage here from the last Tough Mudder:
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Yes, but considerably less than half the population earn under 63k so that section of society is over represented. Not that it is really relevant how much the people doing it earn.The Red Robin said:'It’s an overwhelmingly middle-class activity: nearly half the participants of a Tough Mudder have an annual income of over £63,000, and entrance fees cost up to £150'
So the majority who take part don't earn that amount, but still, overwhelming.
The article is a classic piece of spurious extrapolation - find half a dozen out of the thousands of women who enter these events, all of whom may or may not be genetically, or physically predisposed to various injuries for a whole host of reason unrelated to gender, and extrapolate out to say that it's unsuitable for all women, while also ignoring how many men get injured doing one of these things.
Daily Mail 'science' reporting at its best.3 - Sponsored links:
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I don't think it was swallowing the muddy water that caused the kidney infection.Dazzler21 said:Plus don't swallow muddy water - That's just stupid.
Women have much shorter urethras than men do, so it's a lot easier for bacteria to get into the bladder, and from there up to the kidneys.MuttleyCAFC said:Surely a man is just as likely to get a kidney infection from jumping into polluted water as a woman.
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Trust us not to get that connection.0
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To be fair the first girl was just very unlucky to face plant Everest... I've never seen anyone face plant it in the 5 I have attended.Exiled_Addick said:
Yes, but considerably less than half the population earn under 63k so that section of society is over represented. Not that it is really relevant how much the people doing it earn.The Red Robin said:'It’s an overwhelmingly middle-class activity: nearly half the participants of a Tough Mudder have an annual income of over £63,000, and entrance fees cost up to £150'
So the majority who take part don't earn that amount, but still, overwhelming.
The article is a classic piece of spurious extrapolation - find half a dozen out of the thousands of women who enter these events, all of whom may or may not be genetically, or physically predisposed to various injuries for a whole host of reason unrelated to gender, and extrapolate out to say that it's unsuitable for all women, while also ignoring how many men get injured doing one of these things.
Daily Mail 'science' reporting at its best.
Here's me struggling to get up it as part of a group...
(I was 4th up out of 8 of us and got up first time, some of the others took 3/4 runs)
and here's the ramp...
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Beforehand, these people imagine themselves sitting round the table with their friends and telling them, 'So, like, it was really, really tough, and I literally thought I was dying, but like, I found something inside me that I didn't know I had, and now I'm like soooo much more me as a person...'
But instead you got your front teeth knocked out.
That'll teach you, except it won't, you big crybaby.3 -
It's one of the reasons women who are prone to UTIs are recommended to go for a wee straight after sex; it has a better chances of flushing out any bacteria that have been introduced to the area before they have a chance to grab a foothold.Dazzler21 said:Trust us not to get that connection.
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I believe it's 2017. Women are, or at least wish to be, equal to men. No one forced them to go into it, they went of their own volition.
Yes it's quite possibly dangerous. So if you can't face the possible consequences, don't do it.0
