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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    The_President said:

    I agree Canters ( i know it doesnt happen that often :) ) but thought Dernbach was good.

    For example, i think hes a better bowler at the death than Ball.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,912
    The_President said:

    The_President said:

    I agree Canters ( i know it doesnt happen that often :) ) but thought Dernbach was good.

    For example, i think hes a better bowler at the death than Ball.
    I also think he's got better with experience.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,991
    bolloxbolder said:

    killerandflash said:

    Stokes as VC

    Also tells us Ball cannot be relied upon.
    I was surprised Morgan brought Ball back on. I thought he'd lose us a close match and he nearly did.

    Perhaps Morgan wanted to see how he'd do, so he'd have a good idea for the ICC starting Thursday ?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Covered End said:

    bolloxbolder said:

    killerandflash said:

    Stokes as VC

    Also tells us Ball cannot be relied upon.
    I was surprised Morgan brought Ball back on. I thought he'd lose us a close match and he nearly did.

    Perhaps Morgan wanted to see how he'd do, so he'd have a good idea for the ICC starting Thursday ?
    With Woakes and Stokes not available to bowl at the death on Saturday, there weren't many options left anyway, and if he's in the squad, then it's good to see if he's up to bowling then
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Ball should not be starting, I am actually a big fan of Willey and he adds depth, surprised he hasn't been used much in the batting, and provides a left-handed option too. Certainly better than Ball.
  • CharltonKerry
    CharltonKerry Posts: 2,958
    edited May 2017
    If anybody interested My boy has two spare tickets for England v New Zealand at Cardiff on June 6th just looking for his money back at £50 each, unfortunately we can't make it. Castle stand, block 19, row D seats 24 and 25. Both gold adult. Let me know if your interested.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849
    cafcfan1990 said:

    Ball should not be starting, I am actually a big fan of Willey and he adds depth, surprised he hasn't been used much in the batting, and provides a left-handed option too. Certainly better than Ball.

    Agree, Willet just adds something different in my opinion. Wish he could remain fit.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    It'll be interesting who plays today, with Finn and Roland-Jones both pace options called up by England, and whether Ball gets another chance

    When do England have to choose their squad for the Champion's Trophy?
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    CharltonKerry said:

    If anybody interested My boy has two spare tickets for England v New Zealand on June 6th just looking for his money back at £50 each, unfortunately we can't make it. Castle stand, block 19, row D seats 24 and 25. Both gold adult. Let me know if your interested.

    Where?
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited May 2017
    MrOneLung said:

    cafcfan1990 said:

    Ball should not be starting, I am actually a big fan of Willey and he adds depth, surprised he hasn't been used much in the batting, and provides a left-handed option too. Certainly better than Ball.

    Agree, Willet just adds something different in my opinion. Wish he could remain fit.
    Yeah, pretty good with the 9 iron too.
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  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,912
    cafcfan1990 said:

    Ball should not be starting, I am actually a big fan of Willey and he adds depth, surprised he hasn't been used much in the batting, and provides a left-handed option too. Certainly better than Ball.

    I agree. Willey is underrated in this format...
  • CharltonKerry
    CharltonKerry Posts: 2,958
    edited May 2017
    Sorry President, it might have been helpful if I mentioned the venue. Original post now amended to show venue.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Apart from Tahir (who has a minor injury), South Africa have their best side on show with Morkel, Duminy and Parnell returning.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Addick Addict said:

    Apart from Tahir (who has a minor injury), South Africa have their best side on show with Morkel, Duminy and Parnell returning.</blockquote

    Tahir got smacked around by Ali in first game, if the balls not turning he could become a liability at this level.

  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    There is a reason Roy doesn't open in First Class cricket - T20 and batting for 5-10 overs is his strength.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Addick Addict said:

    Apart from Tahir (who has a minor injury), South Africa have their best side on show with Morkel, Duminy and Parnell returning.

    I was wondering where Morkel was

    Overcast today, with rain expected. Tougher batting conditions
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    The_President said:

    Addick Addict said:

    Apart from Tahir (who has a minor injury), South Africa have their best side on show with Morkel, Duminy and Parnell returning.

    Mainly due to the fact that England had left handers in the shape of Morgan, Stokes and Ali.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    15-4

    Good start England!
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,670
    15 for 4 not a good start to say the least
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    20-5
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Anyone know which county Parnell and Rabada played for in the last two seasons - where they might have been taught in the conditions by a certain 41 year old.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    20-6
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Nightmare.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,670
    Ffs this is awful
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    Blimey they are quite keen to get this game over and done with and enjoy the bank holiday Monday.....
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    We are losing wickets faster than you can say "favourites"
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    20-6
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    killerandflash said:

    Addick Addict said:

    Apart from Tahir (who has a minor injury), South Africa have their best side on show with Morkel, Duminy and Parnell returning.

    I was wondering where Morkel was

    Overcast today, with rain expected. Tougher batting conditions
    Evidently!
  • Tutt-Tutt
    Tutt-Tutt Posts: 3,272
    Fantastic bowling by South Africa. My first visit to Lords in 1972 was very similar, when Bob Massie of Australia swung the ball round corners and took 8 wickets. I think England were about 40-6 in that game. Lords can produce the ultimate bowling conditions every now and again, like this morning, it's a freakish ground
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,991
    I said this on the ICC Champions Trophy thread last night.

    "I think we can win this with home advantage & the fact that the final is at The Oval and not Lords where our record is comparatively poor."

    I'm not massively surprised by our early Lords collapse today.

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