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What's happening behind the scenes? Karl uncertainty. ED p6/7 all about Swisdom's golf handicap
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I have noticed that KM's message has changed from 'our priority is to be a Championship club with PL ambitions', to 'our priority is to return to the Championship this season and we have a top 6 budget' to 'our priority is to return to the Championship as soon as possible'. The last a subtle, lawyeresq change in wording.
I have also noticed we made a loss of £13.5M last year and that in the next 12months our turnover will be hugely down on the year we made that loss yet we can not change our fixed costs significantly and still have higher earners on our budget we can't shift. Further, KM has said in a number of occasions that we will not repeat the level of losses again. I suspect this leaves our total wage and transfer fee budget in the negative category meaning a lower wage budget for next season and more money in transfer fees coming in than going out.
I have further noticed that every single transfer window since they arrived we have been ever so close to getting 2 or 3 game changing signings over the line only for them to suspiciously not happen each time.
I have noticed that both RD and KM have regularly said things that did not then happen.
If anyone thought our budget for next season would excite then they are probably a little deluded. If KR had 'bought into' KM and RD's rhetoric without substance then he is a moron and I have no sympathy.20 -
I'm guessing that he has been asked to make cuts across the team and coaching staff. Apparently Simon Clark was offered a role by KR but not one that he felt suits his skill set. Simon is a coach but it was a different role as KR decided that he wanted Lee Bowyer as the main first team coach and not Simon. Simon has more of a coaching history with the players and staff all through the academy and club than Bowyer but it was his decision.0
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Who's been feeding you this info, Addickted ?Addickted said:He's been told his Company Car for the year is a Dacia Duster
He may have been TOLD that's his next car....
...but someone ITK has leaked it's a Robin Reliant.
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Don't think there is anything imminent with Robinson.1
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Who's been feeding you this info, Addickted ?Addickted said:He's been told his Company Car for the year is a Dacia Duster
He may have been TOLD that's his next car....
...but someone ITK has leaked it's a Robin Reliant.2 -
These quotes from KR reminded me a lot of when Slade said "we're miles away" from the squad we wanted/needed after the friendly at Orient two weeks before the season.
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It almost seems like hes not wanting to quit, but he has a meeting set up with KM (possibly RD) where he is going to say exactly what he wants in terms of transfers and KMs reaction to this will determine whether he wants to stay at the club or not.LouisMend said:These quotes from KR reminded me a lot of when Slade said "we're miles away" from the squad we wanted/needed after the friendly at Orient two weeks before the season.
Based on previous transfer windows, that probably means he wont be staying.2 -
Robinson appears to divide opinion, certainly on here.
But I am sick and tired of us chopping and changing our managers.
Given a modicum of backing, there is no reason he can't have us challenging for the top 6 next season.
He has his style of play and it takes time to implement that, with the right type of players.
I'm not going to get excited by our unbeaten mini-run but we have a little momentum moving into next season (clutching I know, but we've had nothing to latch onto for the past few seasons).
I've heard that KR has a good rapport with the players, especially the younger ones and that he 'involves' them all rather than just dictating. That is a big positive for me.
If it is the case that he's been promised one thing and the goalposts have been moved, then the fuckwit incumbents have struck yet again. I get that people would have no sympathy with him but there is a common denominator here and it's the same cycle time and again.
Back him Roland or do one.
Alternatively, just do one anyway.29 -
By the sound of things KR us going through the same painful budget negotiations in Belgium as the UK government is with the EU...1
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We certainly haven't spent bugger all on player acquisitions during their time. It's just the money has been truly horribly spent. If they had given a fraction of what has been thrown down the drain to a competent management and scouting team with control over purchases when they bought us, we'd be a comfortable championship club at the very worst. But they thought they knew better and ultimately trusted the wrong people, who had very little idea of what competing in English football required. They say they've learnt from their mistakes, and yet some of those people are still listened to, which is a total joke considering their abject failure.WestCountryAddick said:
Indeed. Which is bugger all, like every other manager before him.razil said:I expect he talked up what he wanted without a concrete yes from him in Belgium, and has now been told what he can actually have
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Cor, that seems like a while ago. Am anticipating some similar frustration from KR in the coming months - albeit channeled completely differently (cryptic, long, horseshit interviews - rather than just saying "we're miles away")LouisMend said:These quotes from KR reminded me a lot of when Slade said "we're miles away" from the squad we wanted/needed after the friendly at Orient two weeks before the season.
That point about 'not having similar losses' means that optimists might say that we could have something to play with as all of the player sales fell into the subsequent year to the £13.5m loss. But yes, for FY 17/18 which this transfer window falls into... to not take a loss like that again, with much less money coming in, you'd have to assume we've got to ship a decent amount of cost out in wages and/or fees.
I think he's been told very recently to shift an absolute tonne of wages before even thinking about getting anyone in and we witnessed the earliest stage of his tantrum.0 -
"because you can't hang around mid table"
That is the part that says, loudly, There is a big doubt to the budget he was expecting or previously lead to believe would be available.
"that's not what I'm here for"
Either back me or I'm going to consider my options.6 -
I still think he's full of shite and tactically poor, but i can't be arsed with another two bob manager coming in and replacing him for 6 months, then the same cycle happens again.
If we get taken over then id want someone of good quality here with a plan, if the old Belgian nonce is staying, then so should KR as well.6 -
Presumably we are now at the point in our manager’s life cycle, where they realise that they are not going to get any backing in the forthcoming transfer window (it’s usually their second) and are just left with a selection of targets Mowgli has cobbled together. The club normally leak some old tosh at this point saying the manager said something unforgivable about a player, and had to go.
Manager gets paid off, told to stay schtum.
Rinse and repeat.
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I agree. He's put weight on since he came back, and our upturn in form did coincide with him being out the team after all. What happened to to the player that joined?cafc_harry said:It's the fairly sudden change of tone that I'm interested in.
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exactly, I'm sure we'd all walk away from a well paid job in similar circumstances with no guaranteed income to feed the family etc!!!CAFCBourne said:He has no principals........ So flipping that Powell should have walked then when Roland interfered with the team.
So many modern day folk character assassinate despite having few or no dealings with person. Maybe KR principal was to look after his family by being in employment.
However it is very interesting the latest comments and another hit to my oh here we go again counter.2 -
He was full of pro regime rhetoric when he came.
After a few months he now knows the reality and that the fans are broadly right in their anti regime sentiments.
Hence the toned down ambiguous sentiments. He wants a pay off so he will never condemn them directly.5 -
I'm lost as to why this tone of uncertainty and hesitancy has suddenly come to light. We've just signed Crofts on a one year extension ffs. He should be ebullient16
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Does paying off contracts come under FFP wage to turnover ratio restrictions?0
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have we? has that been on the O/S? the number of games played may have triggered an extra year but maybe it's in his favour so if he doesn't want to trigger it he can walk away.cabbles said:I'm lost as to why this tone of uncertainty and hesitancy has suddenly come to light. We've just signed Crofts on a one year extension ffs. He should be ebullient
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But like any of us, he needs a job and can't imagine for a moment the phone has been ringing off the hook with offers.CAFCTrev said:
It almost seems like hes not wanting to quit, but he has a meeting set up with KM (possibly RD) where he is going to say exactly what he wants in terms of transfers and KMs reaction to this will determine whether he wants to stay at the club or not.LouisMend said:These quotes from KR reminded me a lot of when Slade said "we're miles away" from the squad we wanted/needed after the friendly at Orient two weeks before the season.
Based on previous transfer windows, that probably means he wont be staying.0 -
Crofts is 33, he'll no doubt need a job and the club are contracted to offer him an extension.LargeAddick said:
have we? has that been on the O/S? the number of games played may have triggered an extra year but maybe it's in his favour so if he doesn't want to trigger it he can walk away.cabbles said:I'm lost as to why this tone of uncertainty and hesitancy has suddenly come to light. We've just signed Crofts on a one year extension ffs. He should be ebullient
It's not like Millwall or even Gillingham are about to double his money with an offer he can't refuse.
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Roland and Katie have failed to support whatever manager we have had in the last seven transfer window 's.
Robinson has just found out that despite what he may have been offered nothing changes.
Groundhog day once again.1 -
It is being reported elsewhere that there is a rumour going around the training ground that Karl is leaving. No more details than that.
Wonder if anyone here has heard similar?0 -
Interesting.Rufus_Ambition said:It is being reported elsewhere that there is a rumour going around the training ground that Karl is leaving. No more details than that.
Wonder if anyone here has heard similar?0 -
I get the idea that if another club was deluded enough to make Robinson an offer, he'd be gone .. Wigan .. where are you ?????5
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Yes, 100% it's been going around behind the scenes. That doesn't automatically mean it is true though.Rufus_Ambition said:It is being reported elsewhere that there is a rumour going around the training ground that Karl is leaving. No more details than that.
Wonder if anyone here has heard similar?
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AFKABartram said:
No, it's probably just wishful thinking by the players.Rufus_Ambition said:
Yes, 100% it's been going around behind the scenes. That doesn't automatically mean it is true though.2 -
Dawn, I'm fed up.7
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LmfaoThe Red Robin said:Dawn, I'm fed up.
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