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Lookman cash to be spent on training ground - Robinson

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  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,201

    Note also that Cawley says £8m upfront.

    Anyone still think we have or will spend £4m of that on players this window or was the £400k to spend a little bit more realistic?

    Noted, and seems to be more or less what the Everton fans believe to be the figure too. Which ought to be a reason to say, "fair enough" to the club, but everything depends on the answer to your question, and that's where it all falls down. I got a message from the Standard guys along the lines of "it's started, then" although they were under the misapprehension that Kevin Foley was also a loss :-) Turns out they were mixing him up with Foxy

  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,138
    This 'Best Training Ground in South London'. How do we know it's not going to end up looking like this?

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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,092
    Stig said:

    This 'Best Training Ground in South London'. How do we know it's not going to end up looking like this?

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    The club wouldn't spend millions improving the training ground to knock it down. Even RD isn't that mad.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    Aye but at least it's not going straight into Roley's pocket to blow on cigs and tinnies
  • They'll probably waste most of it on consultancy fees.

    Karl's 'enthusiasm' is really starting to grate. He needs to moderate his wittering, if he does that it will seem more meaningful
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,793
    edited January 2017
    I don't think the squad is far off - defence is pretty strong with Solly back, Tex and Bauer - Midfield looks much more energetic and Magennis, Holmes and Watt is as good as you are going to get at this level! Add Aribo and Konsa and we ought to be strong, Watt is going to be important as we do have ground to make up! He is high Championship low Premiership when on his game - he ought to kill this league!
  • daveydanger
    daveydanger Posts: 1,340
    A trip to Belgium, and a national scouting 'convoy', to look for players.

    We get two loan wingers, an academy left-back from West Ham, and Forster-Caskey - that Robinson has managed before.

    These signings may turn out to be decent, but not exactly sure what all the fanfare was about.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,088
    @Swisdom must be happy. ;-)
  • It all very well having an excellent training ground and we should but if the aim is to develop young talented footballers and sell them on I think the club might be misjudging the market somewhat. If we were one division up the price of the stock would probably increase and obviously if we are languishing in the lower reaches we are easy pickings and the price will drop.
    Also with so many clubs in this part of the world the best youngsters will have their heads easily turned and move to clubs with more ambitious dreams in place. I think the club has already experienced this a number of times in recent years, maybe that's one of those "mistakes" Daisy has said that has been made?
    I except the club have no ambitions on the field to be anything like my reasonable expectations so if they do build their farm and its facilities at least when they do bugger off we will have have something a new owner, with foresight and a little ambition, might want to buy.

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  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,960
    I thought that the regime had already committed to improving the training ground before Lookman was sold? More dishonesty from the regime?
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,890
    sm said:

    I thought that the regime had already committed to improving the training ground before Lookman was sold? More dishonesty from the regime?

    It's all Jackanory, just make it up as you go along.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,297

    So he has gone from saying we will splash some cash and sign at least one maybe two more to basically saying no on else is coming in?

    The liar reined that particular horse in
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,415
    Not often we get guarantees............

    “They’ll be seeing us – trust me,” he said. “They’ll be seeing Charlton Athletic. I can guarantee you."

    The last guarantee we had was "Lookman will not be sold in January" from KM.

    A decent display against the spanners today (unlike the Posh game) and I might be persuaded that the playoffs are a realistic target.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,168

    So, they're basically admitting that money HAD run on on the Training Ground redevelopment and cessation of work was NOT due to problems with the drainage or whatever pathetic excuse was stuttered by TK at the Bromley Addicks' Q & A .

    What a crock of sh*t !

    Spot on Fanny. Katrien and Co. would have us believe that was already accounted for. More lies.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,486
    edited January 2017
    Valley11 said:

    Still like Karl's enthusiasm. At least by being like that he keeps the madness away from the players and focuses them on being a confident attacking side.

    But yes, need to win today or it all looks a bit hollow.

    I agree with this, I'm really warming to him. I think in another era, under different owners, he'd be seen as a breath of fresh air. I like that he seems to really like and respect the club. I like that he seemingly goes to all the youth games, and that he went to the women's game the other day. I like that he's un-Britishly enthusiastic and wears his heart on his sleeve.

    Let's be honest, he does not control what his budget is. Also, selling players to improve infrastructure and make long term investments...it's kind of what a lot of teams do, particularly well run ones. Long term investments are what makes a club sustainable in the long term. Getting into the Premier League seems to be the only way for teams to break even these days, and as a result that is getting harder and harder. So long term investments must be made to keep us going while we try to get to the Premier League.

    Now, we were obviously promised a new training ground by Roland and that promise has, shock, surprise, turned out to be bollocks. That should not be forgiven or forgotten. But Karl can't help that, and may not even have known about that original promise for the training ground.

    He's playing the hand he's been dealt, and there is absolutely a case to be made that "he should have known what he was getting himself in to with this lot," and fair enough, but now that he's here he does genuinely seem to be making the best of it. How many times have people called for "an experienced British manager who 'gets' the club" with the insinuation that foreigners wouldn't? Well, here he is. He's not perfect, but he gives a shit. It's more than could be said for Slade, who seemed to sleepwalk through everything and looks like the dinosaur that he is by comparison.

    Lastly, we've taken 7 points from 9 with a massively depleted squad and in the midst of selling two stalwarts. Surely that must earn him a little credit.
  • So, they're basically admitting that money HAD run on on the Training Ground redevelopment and cessation of work was NOT due to problems with the drainage or whatever pathetic excuse was stuttered by TK at the Bromley Addicks' Q & A .

    What a crock of sh*t !

    Spot on Fanny. Katrien and Co. would have us believe that was already accounted for. More lies.
    Ouch
  • wrighty
    wrighty Posts: 77
    Valley11 said:

    Still like Karl's enthusiasm. At least by being like that he keeps the madness away from the players and focuses them on being a confident attacking side.

    But yes, need to win today or it all looks a bit hollow.

    This
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,202
    edited January 2017
    A question that crosses my mind is this. If a player has the option to sign for 3rd division Charlton with a space age all-singing, all-dancing state of the art training ground in swanky SE London, or Premier league West Bromwich Albion who train behind the bike sheds at the local comp' - which does he tend to choose?
  • wrighty
    wrighty Posts: 77


    I think his heart is in the right place. He's just rather exciteable, talks too quickly and therefore is often unintelligable.

    To be honest I can think of a lot of managers that I dislike more (Pardew), so if he gets the team performing to their potential, that's good enough for me.

    and this


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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,089
    Roland's owned the club for three years - how much work has actually taken place on the training ground ?
  • se9addick said:

    Roland's owned the club for three years - how much work has actually taken place on the training ground ?

    Do we even have a training ground??
  • A question that crosses my mind is this. If a player has the option to sign for 3rd division Charlton with a space age all-singing, all-dancing state of the art training ground in swanky SE London, or Premier league Bournemouth who train behind the bike sheds at the local comp' - which does he tend to choose?

    I know it's being used only as an example but Bournemouth have had their own training complex next to Dean Court for a few years now. The school that they used to train at was also about as far away from a comp' as its possible to get too.

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    Yours in pedantry,

    BA
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,517

    A question that crosses my mind is this. If a player has the option to sign for 3rd division Charlton with a space age all-singing, all-dancing state of the art training ground in swanky SE London, or Premier league Bournemouth who train behind the bike sheds at the local comp' - which does he tend to choose?

    Bournemouth on £50k a week compared to our £5k a week.
  • Tutt-Tutt
    Tutt-Tutt Posts: 3,283

    A question that crosses my mind is this. If a player has the option to sign for 3rd division Charlton with a space age all-singing, all-dancing state of the art training ground in swanky SE London, or Premier league Bournemouth who train behind the bike sheds at the local comp' - which does he tend to choose?

    Usually whoever is paying the most money or the longest contract.
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    Robinson should have been a used car salesman. Bullshit artist of the highest order.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,202
    Scoham said:

    A question that crosses my mind is this. If a player has the option to sign for 3rd division Charlton with a space age all-singing, all-dancing state of the art training ground in swanky SE London, or Premier league Bournemouth who train behind the bike sheds at the local comp' - which does he tend to choose?

    Bournemouth on £50k a week compared to our £5k a week.
    Exactly.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,202
    Tutt-Tutt said:

    A question that crosses my mind is this. If a player has the option to sign for 3rd division Charlton with a space age all-singing, all-dancing state of the art training ground in swanky SE London, or Premier league Bournemouth who train behind the bike sheds at the local comp' - which does he tend to choose?

    Usually whoever is paying the most money or the longest contract.
    Exactly
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,404
    Oh lay off. Until five.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,202

    A question that crosses my mind is this. If a player has the option to sign for 3rd division Charlton with a space age all-singing, all-dancing state of the art training ground in swanky SE London, or Premier league Bournemouth who train behind the bike sheds at the local comp' - which does he tend to choose?

    I know it's being used only as an example but Bournemouth have had their own training complex next to Dean Court for a few years now. The school that they used to train at was also about as far away from a comp' as its possible to get too.

    image

    Yours in pedantry,

    BA
    I have amended my example - I actually had no idea The Cherries really did once train at a school!