Keith Stroud - It's Personal
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Most enjoyable penalty I've ever seen. Its in orbit2
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Thought the ref did well today.0
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Yes, they were both side to side with their player running to by line. Their player knew if he cut instead in there would be contact. Player decided to cut in and fall. Was smart and Tex probably had to let him go, but he bought the pen. If I was ref I wouldn't have given it because i understood what was going on, but probably most would, I can see that also.nth london addick said:Was a soft pen, Poor decision from tex but soft pen
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I digress .. That's two pens recently missed against us by 'relegation rivals' .. the one at Bristol was far more important than today's .. IF IF that had been scored we would have been 2-0 down and Lennon's late goal would have meant nothing instead of gaining a point ..0
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Actually thought he had a fairly decent game today apart from booking Fox, I agree it was a penalty it looked it at the time from behind the goal and I would have been up in arms frankly if that was a Charlton player brought down.
Showed some common sense not to give Makienok a cheap 2nd yellow card unlike that ref who sent of THD a few weeks back now.
It's funny how some refs can go completely the opposite way, I remember Mick Russell last season in the Cardiff game was probably the worst ref seen in years yet Norwich away last season you couldn't fault him.1 -
Lose match => 'ref was terrible, biased'MartinCAFC said:
It's funny how some refs can go completely the opposite way, I remember Mick Russell last season in the Cardiff game was probably the worst ref seen in years yet Norwich away last season you couldn't fault him.
Win match => 'ref had a good game'
Rotherham fans seem to think Stroud was terrible.
Definite penalty imo. If it was 'soft' it was soft for Teixeira to give it away. No way was Makienok tackle a yellow card, never mind a second yellow2 -
Initial response to the penalty was Stroud you are a cheating c**t - replay showed it was a pen. Was 100% convinced he's send Mak off as well. He actually handled that well and if anything should have sent the Rotherham Centre Half of for being a prick.
Hate the bloke but he was ok today.0 -
Today he was very good.0
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I always judge a pen by if it was the other way round would I expect the decision - in this case yes I would so it was a pen.1
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Did have to laugh at Solly digging the fella out after he missed the pen.3
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He is not a good referee. The way he dealt with the big Mak foul after the goal proved that. It was an inocuos foul like you see many times each game. If you had yellow cards for every foul like that then teams would finish with three a side! Yet despite the baying crowd he made a point of telling Simon that it was his last chance, further antagonising the crowd. He should have given the foul and moved away and got on with the game ignoring the fans shouts.0
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That's not what determines if it's a penalty though. It was a foul in the box thus it was a penalty, fair decision. And if he hadn't of given it we wouldn't have got to see the hilariously terrible penalty !MuttleyCAFC said:Agree a lot of refs would give it but player was looking for it
Thought he did really well with the Mak decision, really thought he was a gonner.0 -
Have to say my first reaction was that it was a penalty. Have to be honest.0
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He's at it again. Terrible decision to send Onouha off for a shoulder to shoulder challenge. Stroud loves himself and doesn't understand the game. It's a lottery having him making refereeing decisions, especially when the game is on TV.
Brighton look good. QPR are struggling. They are in a mess.
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Not even a booking let alone a sending off. Stroud is easily the worst ref out there.5
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Referees are in a position which is less favourable than teams. Teams with the least points at the end of the season get relegated. Referees with the lowest marks over a season are taken off the league list, never to return; their only refereeing outlet thereafter is at local league level. That being the case, and if Keith Stroud is so bad, why is he still refereeing at league level?
May I suggest it is because his refereeing marks, based upon a full season, show that he is deserving of another season; rather than you @Tutt-Tutt and @I StevieG stating one incident above to justify a longer term belief of the aforementioned referees ability. .....just saying and with no malice intended towards you two guys.
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You are biased being a former ref.PeterGage said:Referees are in a position which is less favourable than teams. Teams with the least points at the end of the season get relegated. Referees with the lowest marks over a season are taken off the league list, never to return; their only refereeing outlet thereafter is at local league level. That being the case, and if Keith Stroud is so bad, why is he still refereeing at league level?
May I suggest it is because his refereeing marks, based upon a full season, show that he is deserving of another season; rather than you @Tutt-Tutt and @I StevieG stating one incident above to justify a longer term belief of the aforementioned referees ability. .....just saying and with no malice intended towards you two guys.
Stroud is crap imo.
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It's who you know, not what you know. Guaranteed Stroud is a massive brown noser and is up the right persons arse at the FA.PeterGage said:Referees are in a position which is less favourable than teams. Teams with the least points at the end of the season get relegated. Referees with the lowest marks over a season are taken off the league list, never to return; their only refereeing outlet thereafter is at local league level. That being the case, and if Keith Stroud is so bad, why is he still refereeing at league level?
May I suggest it is because his refereeing marks, based upon a full season, show that he is deserving of another season; rather than you @Tutt-Tutt and @I StevieG stating one incident above to justify a longer term belief of the aforementioned referees ability. .....just saying and with no malice intended towards you two guys.
Who makes the decisions on who refs what games anyway? I bet it's some former referee who hasn't got a clue about the game himself.0 -
Sigh.... "There is nowt as blind as those that can't hear".Brendan_O_Connell said:
It's who you know, not what you know. Guaranteed Stroud is a massive brown noser and is up the right persons arse at the FA.PeterGage said:Referees are in a position which is less favourable than teams. Teams with the least points at the end of the season get relegated. Referees with the lowest marks over a season are taken off the league list, never to return; their only refereeing outlet thereafter is at local league level. That being the case, and if Keith Stroud is so bad, why is he still refereeing at league level?
May I suggest it is because his refereeing marks, based upon a full season, show that he is deserving of another season; rather than you @Tutt-Tutt and @I StevieG stating one incident above to justify a longer term belief of the aforementioned referees ability. .....just saying and with no malice intended towards you two guys.
Who makes the decisions on who refs what games anyway? I bet it's some former referee who hasn't got a clue about the game himself.
I guess with remarks as dopey as those immediately above, the chance of a intellectual, meaningful and serious debate is out of the question. I will bale out of this thread at this point.2 -
He was the fourth official at Millwall last week. Thank Christ none of the ref or either of the linesmen got injured otherwise it would have been worse than it was.
Also at Oxford I was shocked when he gave us for that penalty for that blantent handball. I was waiting for for him to not give it on purpose. And when he gave Harry Lennon that second yellow I thought he was gonna get a straight red. It looked like a rough tackle from when I was and I was thinking "Easy ref!" and blew a sigh of relief only to see a yellow but seconds later seeing a red I was like "Noooooooooo!" because I didn't remember him being booked before hand. But if Harry hadn't been booked it may well have been straight red and a 3 game ban instead of just 1.0 -
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It's the case in many other areas of life (massively in the corporate world) so why wouldn't it be in the world of referees? If you're not intelligent enough to have the debate then it's probably best you bail out to be fair.PeterGage said:
Sigh.... "There is nowt as blind as those that can't hear".Brendan_O_Connell said:
It's who you know, not what you know. Guaranteed Stroud is a massive brown noser and is up the right persons arse at the FA.PeterGage said:Referees are in a position which is less favourable than teams. Teams with the least points at the end of the season get relegated. Referees with the lowest marks over a season are taken off the league list, never to return; their only refereeing outlet thereafter is at local league level. That being the case, and if Keith Stroud is so bad, why is he still refereeing at league level?
May I suggest it is because his refereeing marks, based upon a full season, show that he is deserving of another season; rather than you @Tutt-Tutt and @I StevieG stating one incident above to justify a longer term belief of the aforementioned referees ability. .....just saying and with no malice intended towards you two guys.
Who makes the decisions on who refs what games anyway? I bet it's some former referee who hasn't got a clue about the game himself.
I guess with remarks as dopey as those immediately above, the chance of a intellectual, meaningful and serious debate is out of the question. I will bale out of this thread at this point.
What level of refereeing did you get to by the way?1 -
you mean apart from those that can't see?PeterGage said:
Sigh.... "There is nowt as blind as those that can't hear".
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Long time ago admittedly. But look in the match programme at the name of the 4th official for Charlton's first game back at The Valley, December 1992 (?)Brendan_O_Connell said:
It's the case in many other areas of life (massively in the corporate world) so why wouldn't it be in the world of referees? If you're not intelligent enough to have the debate then it's probably best you bail out to be fair.PeterGage said:
Sigh.... "There is nowt as blind as those that can't hear".Brendan_O_Connell said:
It's who you know, not what you know. Guaranteed Stroud is a massive brown noser and is up the right persons arse at the FA.PeterGage said:Referees are in a position which is less favourable than teams. Teams with the least points at the end of the season get relegated. Referees with the lowest marks over a season are taken off the league list, never to return; their only refereeing outlet thereafter is at local league level. That being the case, and if Keith Stroud is so bad, why is he still refereeing at league level?
May I suggest it is because his refereeing marks, based upon a full season, show that he is deserving of another season; rather than you @Tutt-Tutt and @I StevieG stating one incident above to justify a longer term belief of the aforementioned referees ability. .....just saying and with no malice intended towards you two guys.
Who makes the decisions on who refs what games anyway? I bet it's some former referee who hasn't got a clue about the game himself.
I guess with remarks as dopey as those immediately above, the chance of a intellectual, meaningful and serious debate is out of the question. I will bale out of this thread at this point.
What level of refereeing did you get to by the way?0 -
You never mentioned that before...PeterGage said:
Long time ago admittedly. But look in the match programme at the name of the 4th official for Charlton's first game back at The Valley, December 1992 (?)Brendan_O_Connell said:
It's the case in many other areas of life (massively in the corporate world) so why wouldn't it be in the world of referees? If you're not intelligent enough to have the debate then it's probably best you bail out to be fair.PeterGage said:
Sigh.... "There is nowt as blind as those that can't hear".Brendan_O_Connell said:
It's who you know, not what you know. Guaranteed Stroud is a massive brown noser and is up the right persons arse at the FA.PeterGage said:Referees are in a position which is less favourable than teams. Teams with the least points at the end of the season get relegated. Referees with the lowest marks over a season are taken off the league list, never to return; their only refereeing outlet thereafter is at local league level. That being the case, and if Keith Stroud is so bad, why is he still refereeing at league level?
May I suggest it is because his refereeing marks, based upon a full season, show that he is deserving of another season; rather than you @Tutt-Tutt and @I StevieG stating one incident above to justify a longer term belief of the aforementioned referees ability. .....just saying and with no malice intended towards you two guys.
Who makes the decisions on who refs what games anyway? I bet it's some former referee who hasn't got a clue about the game himself.
I guess with remarks as dopey as those immediately above, the chance of a intellectual, meaningful and serious debate is out of the question. I will bale out of this thread at this point.
What level of refereeing did you get to by the way?0 -
Appreciate he might not have given the decisions the way you/we wanted, but given in any ground most fans think the referee on any day in question is favouring the other side, they are generally on a hiding to nothing.
Few are biased. Few are as bad as fans make out. They are human, they make mistakes,but generally not as many in a game as the players.
I get as pissed off with them during a match as anyone. Often you then go home and with the benefit of TV (which they don't have) you realise that they were right.
Calling him a "corrupt dishonest cheating criminal" is, aside from anything else, libellous and ridiculous. If you had said incompetent, unfit, lacking etc then that wouldbe your view. But the implication that he is picking on Charlton for his own gain or pleasure is daft.1 -
Shoulder to shoulder is only legal if you have a chance to play the ball, though, isn't it? You could argue Baldock's chance to get a free run at goal was disrupted by the barge with no chance of Onuoha playing the ball in that movement??Tutt-Tutt said:He's at it again. Terrible decision to send Onouha off for a shoulder to shoulder challenge. Stroud loves himself and doesn't understand the game. It's a lottery having him making refereeing decisions, especially when the game is on TV.
Brighton look good. QPR are struggling. They are in a mess.1 -
Comedy decision making at Newcastle tonight4
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Another big blunder by Mr Stroud in tonights game at Newcastle when he gives an indirect free kick for encroachment after Newcastle score a penalty.0
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He's a consistent woefull ref1
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Sounds like he has upset a few Geordies.clive said:Another big blunder by Mr Stroud in tonights game at Newcastle when he gives an indirect free kick for encroachment after Newcastle score a penalty.
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