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Steven Gerrard Retires

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Great career and the right time to do it too.
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  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    Overrated because he was English.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    Fanastic career, one of a dying breed of English players who truly knew how to lead a team.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    dizzee said:

    Overrated because he was English.

    By who?
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    ValleyGary said:

    dizzee said:

    Overrated because he was English.

    By who?
    Media... and then from the media to the public.
  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,866
    To join his old pal Karl Robinson? ;)
  • Man_About_Town
    Man_About_Town Posts: 997
    One of the most hyped up and over rated players I have ever seen. Full credit for being loyal to Liverpool, although if he had his way he would have gone to Chelski
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    Think he was a very good player personally - was particularly good in 2009 playing behind Torres.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Man_About_Town said:

    One of the most hyped up and over rated players I have ever seen. Full credit for being loyal to Liverpool, although if he had his way he would have gone to Chelski

    i really don't think he would have fitted in at chelsea
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  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    C_Jensens_Love_Child said:

    Ballon d'Or Bronze Award: 2005
    UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
    FWA Footballer of the Year: 2009
    FWA Tribute Award: 2013
    PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2006
    PFA Young Player of the Year: 2001
    PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2001, 2009
    PFA Merit Award: 2015
    PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2014
    England Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2012
    Liverpool Player of the Season: 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009
    Liverpool top scorer: 2004–05,[238] 2005–06,[239] 2008–09[240] 2014–15[241]
    UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament: 2012
    UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
    FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
    ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
    BBC Goal of the Season: 2006[242]
    FIFA Club World Championship Silver Ball: 2005[243]
    UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match: 2005
    FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2006
    Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009, March 2014
    ECHO Sports Personality of the Year Award: 2014
    BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award – 3rd Place: 2005
    IFFHS World's Most Popular Footballer: 2006
    Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
    Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Public choice)
    MLS All-Star: 2015[244]
    UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year (published 2015)[245]

    Massively overated by the media. He was in premier league team of the year 8 times with 7 of those times coming when it could actually be argued that premiership was the best league in the world with England regularly getting teams to the semi finals and finals of the Champions league, that's decided by players if I'm correct and not the media. Fantastic player and deserves all the credit he gets.

    Fucking hell, he scored a lot of goals!
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Made his teams worse by trying to do everything himself.

    Good player but could've been even better with some discipline.
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    edited November 2016
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    dizzee said:

    Overrated because he was English.

    “He has become the most influential player in England, bar none. Not that Vieira lacks anything, but Gerrard does more.” Alex Ferguson

    “He is undoubtedly one of the best midfield players in the world.” Carlo Ancelotti

    “For the job he performs, he is one of the greatest.” Ronaldinho

    “I can’t think of a striker in the world who has scored so many important goals, never mind a midfielder.” Thierry Henry

    “Steven Gerrard is the best player I’ve ever played with.” Luis Suarez (admittedly this was before he joined Barca)

    “He is without doubt the greatest player I have ever played with, he has everything. At Liverpool, he is irreplaceable.” Fernando Torres

    “I heard what Alex Ferguson said about him being better than me. He’s probably right.” Patrick Vieira

    “Is he the best in the world? He might not get the attention of Messi and Ronaldo but yes, I think he just might be. When we were winning league titles and European Cups at Real, I always said Claude Makelele was our most important player. There is no way myself, Figo or Raúl would have been able to do what we did without Claude and the same goes for Liverpool and Gerrard." Zinedine Zidane

    “I have never seen such a complete midfielder.” Claudio Marchisio

    "Overrated because he was English" - dizzee
    Haha brilliant.

    But I still think he's overrated.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    Slagged off regularly, because he is English...
  • ChiAddick
    ChiAddick Posts: 1,781
    SELR_addicks said:

    Made his teams worse by trying to do everything himself.

    Good player but could've been even better with some discipline.

    Haha.
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,423
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    dizzee said:

    Overrated because he was English.

    “He has become the most influential player in England, bar none. Not that Vieira lacks anything, but Gerrard does more.” Alex Ferguson

    “He is undoubtedly one of the best midfield players in the world.” Carlo Ancelotti

    “For the job he performs, he is one of the greatest.” Ronaldinho

    “I can’t think of a striker in the world who has scored so many important goals, never mind a midfielder.” Thierry Henry

    “Steven Gerrard is the best player I’ve ever played with.” Luis Suarez (admittedly this was before he joined Barca)

    “He is without doubt the greatest player I have ever played with, he has everything. At Liverpool, he is irreplaceable.” Fernando Torres

    “I heard what Alex Ferguson said about him being better than me. He’s probably right.” Patrick Vieira

    “Is he the best in the world? He might not get the attention of Messi and Ronaldo but yes, I think he just might be. When we were winning league titles and European Cups at Real, I always said Claude Makelele was our most important player. There is no way myself, Figo or Raúl would have been able to do what we did without Claude and the same goes for Liverpool and Gerrard." Zinedine Zidane

    “I have never seen such a complete midfielder.” Claudio Marchisio

    "Overrated because he was English" - dizzee
    Don't forget
    "He is only one league winners medal behind me"
    Ronnie Wallwork.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    edited November 2016
    SELR_addicks said:

    Made his teams worse by trying to do everything himself.

    Good player but could've been even better with some discipline.

    Agreed on lacking discipline. Never had any tactical understanding or positional discipline. It's why Rafa played him as a #10 and he had the most successful spell of his career with a free role and the brilliant double pivot of Mascherano and Xabi Alonso behind him. Was the third best midfielder in that midfield and no one fawned nearly as much over Alonso or Mascherano at the time.

    Good player, but like Michael Owen, born 10-15 years too late. The Roy of the Rovers (Robson) type midfielder, like the goal poacher, had all but been eradicated from the top level of the game by the time he hit his peak. And like Owen, he never adjusted.

    Very good player who provided some great moments. THAT goal against Pards' West Ham in the FA Cup final. That night in Instanbul.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,812
    in his prime a f**king unbelievable all round CM...box to box and the sort of player we could've only ever dreamed of having play for us.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    The idea that Steven Gerrard made teams worse is probably one of the most hilarious things I've read on here in quite a while.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    Some quite laughable assements of a ridiculously talented footballer.
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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    ValleyGary said:

    Some quite laughable assements of a ridiculously talented footballer.

    I'd happily take you feedback on my assessment. I left out "desperately one-footed" ;).
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    edited November 2016
    I really don't get this overrated nonsense - it's probably more to do with the bile served up about Liverpool than it is about SG as a player.

    One of the very few truly world class English players of the last 20 years. Happy retirement, Stevie.
  • NomadicAddick
    NomadicAddick Posts: 2,114
    edited November 2016
    Quality player. Loved growing up watching him. It's a shame that the modern day tw*ts on social media continue to rinse him for that slip.

    He was a credit to his club and country. I grew up watching England with the likes of becks, scholes, gerrard and lamps. With that lot in your team there was actually realistic hope that England could achieve something. Although they didn't, now it's just a pipe dream.It's frightening we have no english players who look like getting near accomplishing what those players did.

  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    Was a bit unlucky not to take Liverpool to the title.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    I mean that year he fell on his arse.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,788
    I do believe that, had Gerrard been say ten years younger, with the fluidity of formations used nowadays, he would have proven to have been an even better - especially for England where he and Lampard were almost fighting for, effectively, the same position and role in the side.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    For more:
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2012/apr/10/the-question-steven-gerrard-liverpool
    (from 2012)

    on the death of the box-to-box midfielder:
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2009/apr/22/where-have-box-to-box-midfielders-gone
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    ValleyGary said:

    Some quite laughable assements of a ridiculously talented footballer.

    Agreed. I seem to remember it was the same when Scholes retired.
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,699
    Incredible player. One of my favourites of all time.
    Had Adidas Predator boots for ages because of him.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    SDAddick said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    Made his teams worse by trying to do everything himself.

    Good player but could've been even better with some discipline.

    Agreed. Never had any tactical understanding or positional discipline. It's why Rafa played him as a #10 and he had the most successful spell of his career with a free role and the brilliant double pivot of Mascherano and Xabi Alonso behind him. Was the third best midfielder in that midfield and no one fawned nearly as much over Alonso or Mascherano at the time.

    Good player, but like Michael Owen, born 10-15 years too late. The Roy of the Rovers (Robson) type midfielder, like the goal poacher, had all but been eradicated from the top level of the game by the time he hit his peak. And like Owen, he never adjusted.

    Very good player who provided some great moments. THAT goal against Pards' West Ham in the FA Cup final. That night in Instanbul.
    You're spot on there. He struggled and failed to adjust so much he was restricted to only appearing 710 times for them.

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