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  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638

    Middlesex now 1 run ahead, but virtually impossible for either side to get a result now unless there's a horrendous collapse

    At some point Middlesex will declare with a tempting target for Yorkshire. That is if Yorkshire don't run through them.

    I don't think both sides will happily play out a draw. They will both be desperate to win the Championship.
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,820
    Ben18 said:

    Middlesex now 1 run ahead, but virtually impossible for either side to get a result now unless there's a horrendous collapse

    At some point Middlesex will declare with a tempting target for Yorkshire. That is if Yorkshire don't run through them.

    I don't think both sides will happily play out a draw. They will both be desperate to win the Championship.
    But as someone pointed out yesterday, coming 2nd is worth a lot more in prize money than third, and a draw gets Middx second place, so (if they can't win it) why declare?
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    Pedro45 said:

    Ben18 said:

    Middlesex now 1 run ahead, but virtually impossible for either side to get a result now unless there's a horrendous collapse

    At some point Middlesex will declare with a tempting target for Yorkshire. That is if Yorkshire don't run through them.

    I don't think both sides will happily play out a draw. They will both be desperate to win the Championship.
    But as someone pointed out yesterday, coming 2nd is worth a lot more in prize money than third, and a draw gets Middx second place, so (if they can't win it) why declare?
    But if they got 200 ahead, with 20/25 overs left. Yorkshire would have to have a go, and could end up giving away all of their wickets.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651

    Next off the list will be beet root

    On that note....

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/577060.html
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    edited September 2016
    Yorkshire appear to have come to an agreement with Middx.
    Lyth has come on to bowl and let Middx have 22 from the over.
    Middx now lead by 141.

    The crowd are booing (both of them).
  • red_murph
    red_murph Posts: 2,460
    Would be fuming if I was a Somerset fan.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    Middx declare at 359-6

    Yorkshire need 240 to win off 40 overs.
  • Addickforlife
    Addickforlife Posts: 2,101
    edited September 2016
    Wow, Yorkshire have got the better of that deal haven't they?
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651

    Wow, Yorkshire have got the better of that deal haven't they?

    Don't they both need a win though to win the championship?

    A run a ball isn't so much in T 20 but still seems a decent target otherwise whatever the format.

    I think it will be a potentially exciting finish to the season for the neutral and nailbiting for the committed fans of Middlesex, Somerset and Yorkshire!
  • LenGlover said:

    Wow, Yorkshire have got the better of that deal haven't they?

    Don't they both need a win though to win the championship?

    A run a ball isn't so much in T 20 but still seems a decent target otherwise whatever the format.

    I think it will be a potentially exciting finish to the season for the neutral and nailbiting for the committed fans of Middlesex, Somerset and Yorkshire!
    Yeh they do, and no doubt it's going to be thrilling. Just think that target seems to favour Yorkshire a bit more. Time will tell I guess. Off to a good start - 21-0.
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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    edited September 2016
    The target massively favours Yorkshire and I'd be surprised if they don't win quite comfortably.

    27-0 5.4 overs.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    edited September 2016
    As anticipated, 27-1 5.5 overs.

    Lyth out, Willey in.
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,454
    Target would seem to favour Yorkshire, but they're not off to a great start, trundling along at just over 4 an over when they needed a run a ball. Now lost a wicket and required rate has climbed to over 6.4.
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    240 off 40 on a day four pitch (although a good one), with no fielding restrictions and no one day bowling restrictions (eg. leg side wides) is not as easy as it seems.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    39-2 10.3 overs.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    48-3

    Willey in and now Willey out.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    edited September 2016
    Here's a question - is there a point at which Yorkshire will accept that they cannot win the game and therefore the title? If the answer is "no" then Somerset cannot win the title whereas at any other time Yorkshire would be doing their best to draw if they can't win the game.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849
    Yorkshire can still believe they can win and just fall short but not be bowled out.
    Somersets title
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    Whether Yorkshire win the title or not is mainly dependent on what I say next.

    If I say they'll still do it, they'll be all out by 5pm.

    If I say Middx have it in the bag, Yorks will win by 7 wickets :smile:
  • It will be interesting what Yorkshire do if they're down to their last 2 or 3 batsmen with the run rate at 12 an over. Go for it, as they can't finish lower than 3rd, or preserve dignity and get the draw
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  • MrOneLung said:

    Yorkshire can still believe they can win and just fall short but not be bowled out.
    Somersets title

    Indeed - but they will be throwing the kitchen sink at everything in order to get to that target and consequently will either lose all their wickets or get there. So why are Somerset currently favourites?
  • It will be interesting what Yorkshire do if they're down to their last 2 or 3 batsmen with the run rate at 12 an over. Go for it, as they can't finish lower than 3rd, or preserve dignity and get the draw

    Which I suppose I was trying to say - that the draw and "dignity" aren't part of this particular game.
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    Dignity went out of the window when Lees and Lyth were bowling
  • Ballance is now going to disprove everything I might previously said about him and make a match winning score. I'm not going to bet on it though.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849
    Don't worry, Ballance's strike rate will hit 150 and steer them home.
  • Ballance is now going to disprove everything I might previously said about him and make a match winning score. I'm not going to bet on it though.

    MrOneLung said:

    Don't worry, Ballance's strike rate will hit 150 and steer them home.

    Great minds ;-)
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,454
    Required rate up to 7.4, 170 needed off 23. Not sure what the rules are, but it's saying minimum of 23 overs to play, so if either team is in with a chance of victory can they claim an extra half an hour? Light permitting of course.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Not on the last day.

    Sam Northeast going mental btw
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,454
    edited September 2016
    Leuth said:

    Not on the last day.

    Sam Northeast going mental btw

    Bloody hell, 178no at just over a run a ball!

    Just noticed he took 30 (THIRTY) off a single Velani over (6,4,6,6,4,4)
  • Leuth said:

    Not on the last day.

    Sam Northeast going mental btw

    Didn't know he was a big Somerset fan.