England v Sri Lanka & Pakistan
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Proper team spirit on show today, wonderful stuff.0
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A bit defensive this morning but did well this afternoon.Chizz said:Two matches running, Cook's captaincy has proven far better than his biggest detractors would like to admit.
Fantastic win.0 -
Ticket now sold.Covered End said:
Well we did more than well didn't we ?Leuth said:
just bumping thisCovered End said:336-5 at lunch.
We'll do well to save this match and get a draw.
Absolutely superb performance.
Can't wait for Thursday at The Oval. My mate still has a £75 spare if anyone wants it.0 -
Easy being wise after the event, but Moeen was close to 100 when Cook pulled out. Which means he probably wasn't interested in offering either of them being gifted hundreds. I like that.Chizz said:
I think Moeen will be close to it by then too...Covered End said:I'd bat for another half hour, or a bit longer, to allow Bairstow the opportunity of getting a ton.
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No doubt he would have said to them at beginning of play....'youve got 4 overs guys - do what you have to do'Chizz said:
Easy being wise after the event, but Moeen was close to 100 when Cook pulled out. Which means he probably wasn't interested in offering either of them being gifted hundreds. I like that.Chizz said:
I think Moeen will be close to it by then too...Covered End said:I'd bat for another half hour, or a bit longer, to allow Bairstow the opportunity of getting a ton.
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Just to think there were some folks calling for Moeen to be dropped for Rashid before this Test!
He's a very good cricketer, attacking batsman and very useful off-spinner.0 -
Not sure if mentioned already, but 445/6 with nobody getting a century!
Anyone know what the record is? I'd be willing to bet it's not a score that's been declared with only 6 wickets down.0 -
I'd just like to publicly eat humble pie and say that I didn't rate woakes at the start of the season. ..he is now an automatice pick ..so what do I know3
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India made 524 for 9 declared against NZ in Kanpur in 1976-77, without anyone making a hundred.lordromford said:Not sure if mentioned already, but 445/6 with nobody getting a century!
Anyone know what the record is? I'd be willing to bet it's not a score that's been declared with only 6 wickets down.
In 2009, Australia declared against West Indies on 520 for 7, with Simom Katich 99 not out.
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India were on course for 600+ without a century against England a while ago, and a series win without a century-maker, then Anil Kumble of all people made a ton
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Bastards! He must have been fuming!!Chizz said:
India made 524 for 9 declared against NZ in Kanpur in 1976-77, without anyone making a hundred.lordromford said:Not sure if mentioned already, but 445/6 with nobody getting a century!
Anyone know what the record is? I'd be willing to bet it's not a score that's been declared with only 6 wickets down.
In 2009, Australia declared against West Indies on 520 for 7, with Simom Katich 99 not out.2 -
Cheers. Good knowledge. Harsh on Katich too!Chizz said:
India made 524 for 9 declared against NZ in Kanpur in 1976-77, without anyone making a hundred.lordromford said:Not sure if mentioned already, but 445/6 with nobody getting a century!
Anyone know what the record is? I'd be willing to bet it's not a score that's been declared with only 6 wickets down.
In 2009, Australia declared against West Indies on 520 for 7, with Simom Katich 99 not out.1 -
I looked into this as thought it was a bit overly cruel if true.Chizz said:
India made 524 for 9 declared against NZ in Kanpur in 1976-77, without anyone making a hundred.lordromford said:Not sure if mentioned already, but 445/6 with nobody getting a century!
Anyone know what the record is? I'd be willing to bet it's not a score that's been declared with only 6 wickets down.
In 2009, Australia declared against West Indies on 520 for 7, with Simom Katich 99 not out.
They did declare on 520-7, and Simon Katich did score 99, but was the second batsman dismissed, so no red-inker. Get your facts sorted Chizz!
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausvwi09/engine/match/406191.html
I did a bit of further digging and found the following to be left not out on 99/199/299:
D Bradman 299*
G Boycott 99*
S Waugh 99*
A Tudor 99*
A Flower 199*
S Pollock 99*
A Hall 99*
K Sangakkara 199*
On each occasion, the rest of the team has been dismissed to leave the batsman stranded. Only Tudor can be miffed, as Thorpe could have slowed down his own scoring, and helped him get to a century.0 -
Anytime I see a batting collapse like yesterday especially involving Pakistan, I just think the bookies are involved.1
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Yes, you're right. Katich wasn't not out. But still, Pointing declared four runs short of the record for the highest score without a century!Ben18 said:
I looked into this as thought it was a bit overly cruel if true.Chizz said:
India made 524 for 9 declared against NZ in Kanpur in 1976-77, without anyone making a hundred.lordromford said:Not sure if mentioned already, but 445/6 with nobody getting a century!
Anyone know what the record is? I'd be willing to bet it's not a score that's been declared with only 6 wickets down.
In 2009, Australia declared against West Indies on 520 for 7, with Simom Katich 99 not out.
They did declare on 520-7, and Simon Katich did score 99, but was the second batsman dismissed, so no red-inker. Get your facts sorted Chizz!
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausvwi09/engine/match/406191.html
I did a bit of further digging and found the following to be left not out on 99/199/299:
D Bradman 299*
G Boycott 99*
S Waugh 99*
A Tudor 99*
A Flower 199*
S Pollock 99*
A Hall 99*
K Sangakkara 199*
On each occasion, the rest of the team has been dismissed to leave the batsman stranded. Only Tudor can be miffed, as Thorpe could have slowed down his own scoring, and helped him get to a century.0 -
Donald Bradman. What a player he must have been. I'd have loved to have seen him play.Ben18 said:
I looked into this as thought it was a bit overly cruel if true.Chizz said:
India made 524 for 9 declared against NZ in Kanpur in 1976-77, without anyone making a hundred.lordromford said:Not sure if mentioned already, but 445/6 with nobody getting a century!
Anyone know what the record is? I'd be willing to bet it's not a score that's been declared with only 6 wickets down.
In 2009, Australia declared against West Indies on 520 for 7, with Simom Katich 99 not out.
They did declare on 520-7, and Simon Katich did score 99, but was the second batsman dismissed, so no red-inker. Get your facts sorted Chizz!
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausvwi09/engine/match/406191.html
I did a bit of further digging and found the following to be left not out on 99/199/299:
D Bradman 299*
G Boycott 99*
S Waugh 99*
A Tudor 99*
A Flower 199*
S Pollock 99*
A Hall 99*
K Sangakkara 199*
On each occasion, the rest of the team has been dismissed to leave the batsman stranded. Only Tudor can be miffed, as Thorpe could have slowed down his own scoring, and helped him get to a century.
This reminds me of two 'facts' that I'm aware of about him, but I'm unsure if they're myths:
1) In one of his last tests, he was on 92 (or something) and retired because it was the only score between 0 and 100 he hadn't got.
2) He only needed 4 in his final innings to have a career average in tests of 100, but got out for a duck, so had to settle for 99 point something.
Well, over to you cricket experts. Are these true or have I been had?
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2) is true. 1) seems like nonsense considering he only played 52 Tests1
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The second one is true!lordromford said:
Donald Bradman. What a player he must have been. I'd have loved to have seen him play.Ben18 said:
I looked into this as thought it was a bit overly cruel if true.Chizz said:
India made 524 for 9 declared against NZ in Kanpur in 1976-77, without anyone making a hundred.lordromford said:Not sure if mentioned already, but 445/6 with nobody getting a century!
Anyone know what the record is? I'd be willing to bet it's not a score that's been declared with only 6 wickets down.
In 2009, Australia declared against West Indies on 520 for 7, with Simom Katich 99 not out.
They did declare on 520-7, and Simon Katich did score 99, but was the second batsman dismissed, so no red-inker. Get your facts sorted Chizz!
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausvwi09/engine/match/406191.html
I did a bit of further digging and found the following to be left not out on 99/199/299:
D Bradman 299*
G Boycott 99*
S Waugh 99*
A Tudor 99*
A Flower 199*
S Pollock 99*
A Hall 99*
K Sangakkara 199*
On each occasion, the rest of the team has been dismissed to leave the batsman stranded. Only Tudor can be miffed, as Thorpe could have slowed down his own scoring, and helped him get to a century.
This reminds me of two 'facts' that I'm aware of about him, but I'm unsure if they're myths:
1) In one of his last tests, he was on 92 (or something) and retired because it was the only score between 0 and 100 he hadn't got.
2) He only needed 4 in his final innings to have a career average in tests of 100, but got out for a duck, so had to settle for 99 point something.
Well, over to you cricket experts. Are these true or have I been had?0 -
Maybe it wasn't just test scores?Leuth said:2) is true. 1) seems like nonsense considering he only played 52 Tests
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Maybe. It doesn't feel right though. He might have declared on himself at that score, I guess0
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Bradman will regain one of his records next week.lordromford said:
Donald Bradman. What a player he must have been. I'd have loved to have seen him play.Ben18 said:
I looked into this as thought it was a bit overly cruel if true.Chizz said:
India made 524 for 9 declared against NZ in Kanpur in 1976-77, without anyone making a hundred.lordromford said:Not sure if mentioned already, but 445/6 with nobody getting a century!
Anyone know what the record is? I'd be willing to bet it's not a score that's been declared with only 6 wickets down.
In 2009, Australia declared against West Indies on 520 for 7, with Simom Katich 99 not out.
They did declare on 520-7, and Simon Katich did score 99, but was the second batsman dismissed, so no red-inker. Get your facts sorted Chizz!
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausvwi09/engine/match/406191.html
I did a bit of further digging and found the following to be left not out on 99/199/299:
D Bradman 299*
G Boycott 99*
S Waugh 99*
A Tudor 99*
A Flower 199*
S Pollock 99*
A Hall 99*
K Sangakkara 199*
On each occasion, the rest of the team has been dismissed to leave the batsman stranded. Only Tudor can be miffed, as Thorpe could have slowed down his own scoring, and helped him get to a century.
This reminds me of two 'facts' that I'm aware of about him, but I'm unsure if they're myths:
1) In one of his last tests, he was on 92 (or something) and retired because it was the only score between 0 and 100 he hadn't got.
2) He only needed 4 in his final innings to have a career average in tests of 100, but got out for a duck, so had to settle for 99 point something.
Well, over to you cricket experts. Are these true or have I been had?
He held the record for the highest number of runs scored in a penultimate test, having scored 206 runs at Leeds in 1948 (33 and 173*), the Test before his Oval finale.
However, Joe Root scored 325 in his second-last Test (254 and 71*) and now holds the record as long as he never gets picked again. However, as soon as he takes the field at the Oval this week, Bradman gets the highest-penultimate-Test-score record back.3 -
That is as close as I have come to flagging a Chizz post2
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Graeme Hick was on 98 not out against the Aussies in Sydney in 1994 and Atherton declared.....fair to say it was a bit frosty in the dressing room when Hick came back in.0
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The story goes that Hick didn't talk to Atherton for the rest of the tour.Ormiston Addick said:Graeme Hick was on 98 not out against the Aussies in Sydney in 1994 and Atherton declared.....fair to say it was a bit frosty in the dressing room when Hick came back in.
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Incidentally, having been away I hadn't realised that Australia are now 2-0 down against Sri Lanka and have lost the series. They've also now lost 8 consecutive Test matches in Asia which is shocking.
With Australia having not won the Ashes in England since 2001, (and England only winning once in Australia since 86/87) it does show how poorly most teams seem to travel these days1 -
And also proves how piches are 'doctored' to suit the home teams.killerandflash said:Incidentally, having been away I hadn't realised that Australia are now 2-0 down against Sri Lanka and have lost the series. They've also now lost 8 consecutive Test matches in Asia which is shocking.
With Australia having not won the Ashes in England since 2001, (and England only winning once in Australia since 86/87) it does show how poorly most teams seem to travel these days0 -
I believe a message was sent out to him to say they would declare at a certain time of the day to get get x amount of overs in before lunch/tea/end of play and that the time of the declaration set in stone.Chizz said:
The story goes that Hick didn't talk to Atherton for the rest of the tour.Ormiston Addick said:Graeme Hick was on 98 not out against the Aussies in Sydney in 1994 and Atherton declared.....fair to say it was a bit frosty in the dressing room when Hick came back in.
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Hick blocked the last 3 balls before the declaration, so only really got himself to blame.MrOneLung said:
I believe a message was sent out to him to say they would declare at a certain time of the day to get get x amount of overs in before lunch/tea/end of play and that the time of the declaration set in stone.Chizz said:
The story goes that Hick didn't talk to Atherton for the rest of the tour.Ormiston Addick said:Graeme Hick was on 98 not out against the Aussies in Sydney in 1994 and Atherton declared.....fair to say it was a bit frosty in the dressing room when Hick came back in.
I remember a game at Trent Bridge where England were waiting for Matt Prior to get his 100, with no. 11 Finn at the other end. Prior went through the 90s one run at a time, taking about 10 overs to get there. Thankfully England won the game.1 -
In 1981 Dirk Wellham was stuck on 99 for about twenty minutes for his maiden test ton. Australia delayed their declaration and Brearley set a run saving field. It ended up a draw partly because of the time lost. Wellham got his 100.0
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Astonishing, incriminating video footage has emerged showing Joe Root and Jimmy Anderson not cheating...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2MrZPgyEGo
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