Katrien sacked?
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Pardon me, is that a Belgian frite on your shoulder?DOUCHER said:(and the intellectuals on here love nothing more than an argument, particularly if somebody implies they are more intelligent - no greater crime on here other than being more ITK). Personally I think the abuse aimed at her is a bit childish and to a certain extent, cowardly really.
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Really, if that works I might try chatting her up myself, as I definitely have a fat arse..... ;-)ElfsborgAddick said:
Brentford away opening day last season.The Red Robin said:
For the record, I called it as a horse from day one.Dazzler21 said:Just a quick point...
Loads of you were saying how pretty/fit she is when she came to the club but now you're calling her Squirrel Face or Katy Squirrel Features...
Are you lot into Squirrel beastiality?
Half dozen geezers salivating whilst hanging on her every word. Amazing what a fat a*** and sagging t*** can do even with a squirrel face.
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no, but lets be honest - you and plenty of others on here can't stand being out of the loop - most are just concerned about the crap on the pitchLoOkOuT said:
Pardon me, is that a Belgian frite on your shoulder?DOUCHER said:(and the intellectuals on here love nothing more than an argument, particularly if somebody implies they are more intelligent - no greater crime on here other than being more ITK). Personally I think the abuse aimed at her is a bit childish and to a certain extent, cowardly really.
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We have!cafckev said:At the end of the day, what harm has it done? None, so why would the Police want to investigate. Neither KM or Charlton suffered (until the club made it public, then they only felt embarrassment). She was running the club fro 5/12 until now without any effect, so who has suffered?
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I would hazard a guess that the hope behind the anti-Meire comments (or abuse, if you will) is that they will demonstrate to the court of public opinion that she is incompetent and, more importantly, encourage her to quit. We cannot do anything, beyond involving the Belgian media (on which, well done to those who have, by the way), of putting much pressure on Duchatelet himself without protesting in Belgium. However, as I understand it, the aim of the protests is to make Charlton unmanageable for the regime and pressure it out. I'd be fairly certain that if Meire can be "persuaded" to jump ship, and if similar pressure continues with whoever would be her replacement, that outcome can be achieved. We want him to wish he had never brought us into his network.DOUCHER said:Funny thing is - why would RD remove her from the post, when she is the one taking all the stick - I know she's brought it on herself (and the intellectuals on here love nothing more than an argument, particularly if somebody implies they are more intelligent - no greater crime on here other than being more ITK). Personally I think the abuse aimed at her is a bit childish and to a certain extent, cowardly really. She's clearly inconsequential in the grand scheme of things - its him that needs to be targeted .
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Sign in a minute
She's gonna sign in a minute
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I have believed all along that protests against her should be no-nonsense but not personal. If we stoop low it hands her the moral high ground with the media and she simply does not deserve that. It's working at the moment because even the press are picking her apart, so keep protests not about Meire the person but about her incompetence and the fact she's a lying puppet.DOUCHER said:
no, but lets be honest - you and plenty of others on here can't stand being out of the loop - most are just concerned about the crap on the pitchLoOkOuT said:
Pardon me, is that a Belgian frite on your shoulder?DOUCHER said:(and the intellectuals on here love nothing more than an argument, particularly if somebody implies they are more intelligent - no greater crime on here other than being more ITK). Personally I think the abuse aimed at her is a bit childish and to a certain extent, cowardly really.
As far as this site is concerned, I still reserve the right to refer to her as Squirrel Face (mainly because it still makes me chuckle) but will limit myself to that!2 -
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He isn't here, and she has stated publicly on at least two occasions, that we need to deal with her, not him. Therefore, she gets it.DOUCHER said:Funny thing is - why would RD remove her from the post, when she is the one taking all the stick - I know she's brought it on herself (and the intellectuals on here love nothing more than an argument, particularly if somebody implies they are more intelligent - no greater crime on here other than being more ITK). Personally I think the abuse aimed at her is a bit childish and to a certain extent, cowardly really. She's clearly inconsequential in the grand scheme of things - its him that needs to be targeted .
She doesn't do herself any favours anyway, she walks into blunder after blunder, I've never known a person like it. It's almost like she's a comedy sketch character, except it isn't funny, it's actually embarrassing that someone like that is in charge of the club.10 -
You've got me confused, I don't even know where the loop is!DOUCHER said:
no, but lets be honest - you and plenty of others on here can't stand being out of the loop - most are just concerned about the crap on the pitchLoOkOuT said:
Pardon me, is that a Belgian frite on your shoulder?DOUCHER said:(and the intellectuals on here love nothing more than an argument, particularly if somebody implies they are more intelligent - no greater crime on here other than being more ITK). Personally I think the abuse aimed at her is a bit childish and to a certain extent, cowardly really.
I'll take it as a compliment that you think I'm actually in the know on anything. But I think that says more about you then me!7 -
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She has stated at least once that she is “the owners” eyes and ears.
“If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you.”
Matthew 18 Chap 9
Even the bible wants her gone
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I understand that until recently Katrien thought Companies House was a music genre.41
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absolutely, sorry should have read all comments. Was just responding to AB stating it's not fraud, which is incorrect. Don't doubt its going to be hard to track the guilty party down though, and I certainly hope they are not successful.mogodon said:
It would, but as @Airman Brown said, it would take a lot of police time and effort to find out who did it (even if they could) and they have a lot of other more pressing things to occupy them other than an upset precious Belgian. I doubt the police have even been informed, nor do I imagine the club is investigating anything. What are they going to do? Ask for handwriting samples from everyone going through the turnstiles on Saturday?cafcfan1990 said:
It would still come under Fraud by Misrepresentation.Airman Brown said:
It's not fraud though, is it? Fraud is "criminal deception; the use of false representations to gain an unjust advantage". There's no advantage to whoever sent this is in. It's hardly going to be in the public interest to waste police or any other public resources on a prank, and that's what they would tell the club if asked.kings hill addick said:
I would have thought that anyone else that can reliably confirm that this was not done by the club would be best served keeping it to themselves.Nicholas said:http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/feb/09/charlton-resignation-katrien-meire-companies-house
Charlton Athletic have expressed concern after the resignation of their chief executive Katrien Meire was falsely posted on Companies House.
The club put out a statement saying: “The club is aware of a document that has appeared on Companies House. “This document is false and the club is investigating the matter as it is something we take seriously.”
Louis Mendez, whose Twitter feed identifies him as a presenter on Charltonlive, said: “This is hilarious. I have been reliably informed that it was in fact a #cafc fan who has resigned Katrien Meire’s directorship on her behalf.”
He added: “For the record, I do not know who did this. But I do know it is a forged signature and Katrien has not resigned as director.”
The incident is the latest to strike the troubled club who in January appointed their third manager this season, José Riga, who had managed the club previously.
Also in January, at the home game against Blackburn, thousands of fans protested against the ownership of Roland Duchâtelet, the Belgian businessman and founder of Belgium’s Vivant political party who bought the club in January 2014.
Meire, a 30-year-old lawyer who was brought on board by Duchâtelet, had attracted fans’ ire by referring to them as “customers”. At present Charlton sit bottom of the Championship, three points short of safety.
I don't want to sound like a killjoy but I suspect that submitting false documents to Companies House is fraud and the fewer of us that admit to having any knowledge of it the better for all those concerned. On something that is in the public domain like this an investigation will need to be considered or it might send out the message that fraud is ok if it makes people laugh.
It is, indeed, hilarious but I fear that the Police might be quite insistent that the identity of the person that reliably informed a journalist that it was a CAFC fan is disclosed.0 -
This seems a bit extreme for the bibleHarryLime said:She has stated at least once that she is “the owners” eyes and ears.
“If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you.”
Matthew 18 Chap 9
Even the bible wants her gone
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Only 2%.DOUCHER said:
no, but lets be honest - you and plenty of others on here can't stand being out of the loop - most are just concerned about the crap on the pitchLoOkOuT said:
Pardon me, is that a Belgian frite on your shoulder?DOUCHER said:(and the intellectuals on here love nothing more than an argument, particularly if somebody implies they are more intelligent - no greater crime on here other than being more ITK). Personally I think the abuse aimed at her is a bit childish and to a certain extent, cowardly really.
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cafcfan has already replied to you on this - which seems to be well argued but you don't seem to have responded to him?cafcfan1990 said:
absolutely, sorry should have read all comments. Was just responding to AB stating it's not fraud, which is incorrect. Don't doubt its going to be hard to track the guilty party down though, and I certainly hope they are not successful.mogodon said:
It would, but as @Airman Brown said, it would take a lot of police time and effort to find out who did it (even if they could) and they have a lot of other more pressing things to occupy them other than an upset precious Belgian. I doubt the police have even been informed, nor do I imagine the club is investigating anything. What are they going to do? Ask for handwriting samples from everyone going through the turnstiles on Saturday?cafcfan1990 said:
It would still come under Fraud by Misrepresentation.Airman Brown said:
It's not fraud though, is it? Fraud is "criminal deception; the use of false representations to gain an unjust advantage". There's no advantage to whoever sent this is in. It's hardly going to be in the public interest to waste police or any other public resources on a prank, and that's what they would tell the club if asked.kings hill addick said:
I would have thought that anyone else that can reliably confirm that this was not done by the club would be best served keeping it to themselves.Nicholas said:http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/feb/09/charlton-resignation-katrien-meire-companies-house
Charlton Athletic have expressed concern after the resignation of their chief executive Katrien Meire was falsely posted on Companies House.
The club put out a statement saying: “The club is aware of a document that has appeared on Companies House. “This document is false and the club is investigating the matter as it is something we take seriously.”
Louis Mendez, whose Twitter feed identifies him as a presenter on Charltonlive, said: “This is hilarious. I have been reliably informed that it was in fact a #cafc fan who has resigned Katrien Meire’s directorship on her behalf.”
He added: “For the record, I do not know who did this. But I do know it is a forged signature and Katrien has not resigned as director.”
The incident is the latest to strike the troubled club who in January appointed their third manager this season, José Riga, who had managed the club previously.
Also in January, at the home game against Blackburn, thousands of fans protested against the ownership of Roland Duchâtelet, the Belgian businessman and founder of Belgium’s Vivant political party who bought the club in January 2014.
Meire, a 30-year-old lawyer who was brought on board by Duchâtelet, had attracted fans’ ire by referring to them as “customers”. At present Charlton sit bottom of the Championship, three points short of safety.
I don't want to sound like a killjoy but I suspect that submitting false documents to Companies House is fraud and the fewer of us that admit to having any knowledge of it the better for all those concerned. On something that is in the public domain like this an investigation will need to be considered or it might send out the message that fraud is ok if it makes people laugh.
It is, indeed, hilarious but I fear that the Police might be quite insistent that the identity of the person that reliably informed a journalist that it was a CAFC fan is disclosed.
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It would still come under Fraud by Misrepresentation.
No it wouldn't. I’ve explained this. There was no gain (or intent to gain or cause loss). Fraud of any description doesn't apply. That leaves forgery and/or the Companies Act offence. The CPS have two tests when considering prosecution: Evidential Sufficiency and Public Interest. In a nutshell, once over the evidence hurdle they would have to consider the levels of loss or harm suffered as a result of the offence having been committed. As there wasn't any loss or any harm, it would not be in the public interest to proceed.
The police would be well aware of this and consequently wouldn't even bother investigating if they have their thinking heads on.1 -
i'm not claiming to know the law either way BUT surely someone has presented company's house with false documents and they have done so fraudulently by forging her signature?0
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And well done to them.cafcdave123 said:i'm not claiming to know the law either way BUT surely someone has presented company's house with false documents and they have done so fraudulently by forging her signature?
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I'm sure that this will do wonders for our CEO's reputation in the eyes of her legal colleagues.The Red Robin said:11 -
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Not just an incompetent CEO then...NornIrishAddick said:
I'm sure that this will do wonders for our CEO's reputation in the eyes of her legal colleagues.The Red Robin said:1 -
Ouch! And this whole mess was completely and easily avoidable.The Red Robin said:2 -
It's like a cinema owner running out of popcorn.The Red Robin said:
Not just an incompetent CEO then...NornIrishAddick said:
I'm sure that this will do wonders for our CEO's reputation in the eyes of her legal colleagues.The Red Robin said:5 -
MuttleyCAFC said:
This seems a bit extreme for the bibleHarryLime said:She has stated at least once that she is “the owners” eyes and ears.
“If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you.”
Matthew 18 Chap 9
Even the bible wants her gone
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The press release was a gaff. And boldly stating the club had launched an investigation keeps this alive as until they announce the investigation has concluded, it is fair game for her to be asked at every interview what the state of that investigation is.20
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KM is failing mega style as a CEO of a Championship club. She makes blunders at all stages.
Cannot encourage law breaking but the " resignation" issue gives her bad publicity, lets the outside world know what she is thought of at Charlton.
Make it easy KM resign totally from the club.1 -
Is that you Dot Cotton?HarryLime said:She has stated at least once that she is “the owners” eyes and ears.
“If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you.”
Matthew 18 Chap 9
Even the bible wants her gone
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You've got me confused, I don't even know where the loop is!
I'll take it as a compliment that you think I'm actually in the know on anything. But I think that says more about you/blockquote
Maybe I have - r u one of the moderators? I'm sure u got a bit shirty with me once before when I posted under a different name.
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Even to start my argument, how do we know there was no intent to cause loss?cafcfan said:
No it wouldn't. I’ve explained this. There was no gain (or intent to gain or cause loss). Fraud of any description doesn't apply. That leaves forgery and/or the Companies Act offence. The CPS have two tests when considering prosecution: Evidential Sufficiency and Public Interest. In a nutshell, once over the evidence hurdle they would have to consider the levels of loss or harm suffered as a result of the offence having been committed. As there wasn't any loss or any harm, it would not be in the public interest to proceed.cafcfan1990 said:
It would still come under Fraud by Misrepresentation.Airman Brown said:
It's not fraud though, is it? Fraud is "criminal deception; the use of false representations to gain an unjust advantage". There's no advantage to whoever sent this is in. It's hardly going to be in the public interest to waste police or any other public resources on a prank, and that's what they would tell the club if asked.kings hill addick said:
I would have thought that anyone else that can reliably confirm that this was not done by the club would be best served keeping it to themselves.Nicholas said:http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/feb/09/charlton-resignation-katrien-meire-companies-house
Charlton Athletic have expressed concern after the resignation of their chief executive Katrien Meire was falsely posted on Companies House.
The club put out a statement saying: “The club is aware of a document that has appeared on Companies House. “This document is false and the club is investigating the matter as it is something we take seriously.”
Louis Mendez, whose Twitter feed identifies him as a presenter on Charltonlive, said: “This is hilarious. I have been reliably informed that it was in fact a #cafc fan who has resigned Katrien Meire’s directorship on her behalf.”
He added: “For the record, I do not know who did this. But I do know it is a forged signature and Katrien has not resigned as director.”
The incident is the latest to strike the troubled club who in January appointed their third manager this season, José Riga, who had managed the club previously.
Also in January, at the home game against Blackburn, thousands of fans protested against the ownership of Roland Duchâtelet, the Belgian businessman and founder of Belgium’s Vivant political party who bought the club in January 2014.
Meire, a 30-year-old lawyer who was brought on board by Duchâtelet, had attracted fans’ ire by referring to them as “customers”. At present Charlton sit bottom of the Championship, three points short of safety.
I don't want to sound like a killjoy but I suspect that submitting false documents to Companies House is fraud and the fewer of us that admit to having any knowledge of it the better for all those concerned. On something that is in the public domain like this an investigation will need to be considered or it might send out the message that fraud is ok if it makes people laugh.
It is, indeed, hilarious but I fear that the Police might be quite insistent that the identity of the person that reliably informed a journalist that it was a CAFC fan is disclosed.
The police would be well aware of this and consequently wouldn't even bother investigating if they have their thinking heads on.0
