Southeastern train disruption (franchise to be taken over by Govt p191)
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I can assure you that the pittance of paying out compensation is no where near the fine they will get from NR. There will be another reason why it terminated.Rizzo said:Yet another farce this morning. 07.58 Welling to Cannon St gets as far as New Cross and is pulling out of the station when someone pulls the emergency cord. Train duly stops with only the last carriage still adjacent to the platform. Passenger having some sort of fit. Fair enough. They eventually get him off the train and he's sitting on the platform with staff and possibly medical personnel attending to him. So the train can continue right? Right? No! All off please. Train is terminating at New Cross (even though 90% of it is actually past New Cross). No reason given but I think we all know that it's because the train would have been more than 30 minutes late into Cannon St and they'd have to pay compensation. They have to get all 10 coaches worth of passengers off through the last coach and we're now all milling around at New Cross with no trains advertised on the adjacent platform and our old train blocking the other one. Eventually an 8 coach train pulls in, already rammed of course, and 10 coaches of passengers attempt to force their way on. I somehow managed to get on and pulled into Cannon St at 9.13, 40 minutes late. Absolute fuckwits!!
P.s. You can still claim delay repay for your journey
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Was the passenger OK?0
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You didn't manage to catch the train number for my collection did you?6
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I was waiting at london bridge to jot down the number , imagine how fcked off I was that it got terminated at new cross . FUMING9
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It was probably Network Rail who terminated the train because there was no available path for it to continue.
South Eastern just run the trains. They cannot make decisions about scheduling, routing and cancellations etc.
Driving a train is not like driving a bus. Trains have to follow the points and signals which are controlled entirely by Network Rail under instructions from the rail regulator (i.e. the government).
I'm not trying to defend South-Eastern but I think criticism should be directed at the real cause of the problem.0 -
With the ongoing works at London Bridge it's probably operating at full capacity. That means that the delay at New Cross probably meant it was a choice of either cancel that train, or try and create the necessary gap at London Bridge by delaying a whole load of other trains.0
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Take your point, although don't agree entirely. If that is the case, why is it that Network Rail keep picking on South Eastern, why is it the South Eastern passengers get a worse service than everyone else in the country, when the fault is actually with Network Rail who are also responsible for the lines that all the other Train Operating Companies use?STEVEREEVE said:It was probably Network Rail who terminated the train because there was no available path for it to continue.
South Eastern just run the trains. They cannot make decisions about scheduling, routing and cancellations etc.
Driving a train is not like driving a bus. Trains have to follow the points and signals which are controlled entirely by Network Rail under instructions from the rail regulator (i.e. the government).
I'm not trying to defend South-Eastern but I think criticism should be directed at the real cause of the problem.
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After the Blackburn game, I attended the protest and then went for a few beers, left the pub at 8.30pm, got the train from Charlton to Plumstead, rail replacement to Dartford, train to Gravesend, changed for the train to Strood, rail replacement to Gillingham, then train to Faversham, fell asleep on the train and woke up just before bloody Birchington on Sea at 1am, cab back to Faversham cost me 40 quid.
I could go on and on about the wonderful service provided by Southeastern Trains.1 -
Yes you are Steve, yes you are.STEVEREEVE said:It was probably Network Rail who terminated the train because there was no available path for it to continue.
South Eastern just run the trains. They cannot make decisions about scheduling, routing and cancellations etc.
Driving a train is not like driving a bus. Trains have to follow the points and signals which are controlled entirely by Network Rail under instructions from the rail regulator (i.e. the government).
I'm not trying to defend South-Eastern but I think criticism should be directed at the real cause of the problem.4 - Sponsored links:
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I was on this train. nightmare...Rizzo said:Yet another farce this morning. 07.58 Welling to Cannon St gets as far as New Cross and is pulling out of the station when someone pulls the emergency cord. Train duly stops with only the last carriage still adjacent to the platform. Passenger having some sort of fit. Fair enough. They eventually get him off the train and he's sitting on the platform with staff and possibly medical personnel attending to him. So the train can continue right? Right? No! All off please. Train is terminating at New Cross (even though 90% of it is actually past New Cross). No reason given but I think we all know that it's because the train would have been more than 30 minutes late into Cannon St and they'd have to pay compensation. They have to get all 10 coaches worth of passengers off through the last coach and we're now all milling around at New Cross with no trains advertised on the adjacent platform and our old train blocking the other one. Eventually an 8 coach train pulls in, already rammed of course, and 10 coaches of passengers attempt to force their way on. I somehow managed to get on and pulled into Cannon St at 9.13, 40 minutes late. Absolute fuckwits!!
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That's ridiculous. Four and half hours! There's always a long wait at Dartford for a connection regardless of engineering works.favershamaddick said:After the Blackburn game, I attended the protest and then went for a few beers, left the pub at 8.30pm, got the train from Charlton to Plumstead, rail replacement to Dartford, train to Gravesend, changed for the train to Strood, rail replacement to Gillingham, then train to Faversham, fell asleep on the train and woke up just before bloody Birchington on Sea at 1am, cab back to Faversham cost me 40 quid.
I could go on and on about the wonderful service provided by Southeastern Trains.0 -
Charing Cross and Waterloo East closed due to an obstruction at London Bridge. What a great way to start the week!!0
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Moan, moan, moan.Brendan_O_Connell said:Charing Cross and Waterloo East closed due to an obstruction at London Bridge. What a great way to start the week!!
It had better be fixed by tomorrow morning, I've got to send my butler to Dartford to pay in a cheque.
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part of the roof apparentlyBrendan_O_Connell said:Charing Cross and Waterloo East closed due to an obstruction at London Bridge. What a great way to start the week!!
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Blimey,i was only at London Bridge about an hour ago
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Fucking useless clueless arseholes3
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Cannon street is rammed0
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Oh AFKA, why did I have to move to Canary Wharf? Would be looking forward to a session now.2
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No, I'm pretty sure it's YOU that wants to delay my journey!10 - Sponsored links:
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I can meet you in the Alma and pretend up stuck at Cannon St :-)DaveMehmet said:Oh AFKA, why did I have to move to Canary Wharf? Would be looking forward to a session now.
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Mmm, just pulling into SidcupAFKABartram said:
I can meet you in the Alma and pretend up stuck at Cannon St :-)DaveMehmet said:Oh AFKA, why did I have to move to Canary Wharf? Would be looking forward to a session now.
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On a lovely Clipper! That's the way to travel... If they hadn't just charged me 8 quid for the privilege.0
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Track broken at kidbrooke, nothing for at least a couple of hours apparently0
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Open now0
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Just got on a Charing x train at barnehurst0
