Club Official Website Ridiculous .... easy regime target

limeygent said:

Airman Brown said:

Ollywozere said:

cafc-west said:

Be nice if they could get the Tex..... Stories consistent. One says 3.5 year contract and the other 4.5 years...which is it @Ollywozere ?

Unfortunately, we were given the wrong info. We were only told it was 4.5 after publishing. Should all be in line now.

4.5 years for an unproven (in this league) 29-year-old is thoroughly absurd, no matter how highly Riga rates him.

Looks like some kind of "settlement" to me. Surprised SL would do any kind of business with RD.

He's injured probably.

Algarveaddick said:

Garrymanilow said:

Let's say Teixeira is exactly what we need and he shores up our defence like Johnson did last season and we stay up as a result. And let's say that the only way Jorge was willing to relocate to England to sign for a team in the relegation zone was if he had his long term future secured.

Would that be so crazy a decision? I don't think so.

No it wouldn't, and if Polish Pete, Reza, Lepointe, Nego, Ajdarevic or Thuram-Ulien had turned out to be world beaters that wouldn't have been bad business either. But they were woeful for the most part. Why would you expect this to be any different?

Is there no proven centre half in England that would sign for two years for a reasonable fee? Do you think that our still rudderless scouting operation has been exploring that option? Or is the ONLY man who fits the bill someone who just happens to come from a club the CEO and Chairman are very familiar with?

Like I said, I hope he is just the player we need, but in two years I have not seen one jot of evidence to give me confidence that that will be the case.

You're right for the most part but up until now we've had to make do with players thrown at us by people that have probably never even set foot inside The Valley. It seems this could be our first signing hand picked by a manager under the Duchatelet regime. I'm hoping for better.

It's worth pointing out that lots and lots of managers take players from clubs they've worked at previously. If Riga did pick Teixeira himself, then I'm glad he has gone for someone he has worked with before rather than someone he thinks might be good but hasn't actually had any close experience with.

We've been let down again and again by foreign signings since Duchatelet took over so I can see why people are apprehensive, but I think it's different this time. Obviously we have no idea how he will adapt to the Championship, and that remains to be seen, but on the face of it, I'm happier about this signing than many of our others.

WestCountryAddick said:

Algarveaddick said:

Garrymanilow said:

Let's say Teixeira is exactly what we need and he shores up our defence like Johnson did last season and we stay up as a result. And let's say that the only way Jorge was willing to relocate to England to sign for a team in the relegation zone was if he had his long term future secured.

Would that be so crazy a decision? I don't think so.

No it wouldn't, and if Polish Pete, Reza, Lepointe, Nego, Ajdarevic or Thuram-Ulien had turned out to be world beaters that wouldn't have been bad business either. But they were woeful for the most part. Why would you expect this to be any different?

Is there no proven centre half in England that would sign for two years for a reasonable fee? Do you think that our still rudderless scouting operation has been exploring that option? Or is the ONLY man who fits the bill someone who just happens to come from a club the CEO and Chairman are very familiar with?

Like I said, I hope he is just the player we need, but in two years I have not seen one jot of evidence to give me confidence that that will be the case.

You're right for the most part but up until now we've had to make do with players thrown at us by people that have probably never even set foot inside The Valley. It seems this could be our first signing hand picked by a manager under the Duchatelet regime. I'm hoping for better.

It's worth pointing out that lots and lots of managers take players from clubs they've worked at previously. If Riga did pick Teixeira himself, then I'm glad he has gone for someone he has worked with before rather than someone he thinks might be good but hasn't actually had any close experience with.

We've been let down again and again by foreign signings since Duchatelet took over so I can see why people are apprehensive, but I think it's different this time. Obviously we have no idea how he will adapt to the Championship, and that remains to be seen, but on the face of it, I'm happier about this signing than many of our others.

I am too. But the blind optimism of some others is baffling?

Algarveaddick said:

Swisdom said:

boggzy said:

Airman Brown said:

Ollywozere said:

cafc-west said:

Be nice if they could get the Tex..... Stories consistent. One says 3.5 year contract and the other 4.5 years...which is it @Ollywozere ?

Unfortunately, we were given the wrong info. We were only told it was 4.5 after publishing. Should all be in line now.

4.5 years for an unproven (in this league) 29-year-old is thoroughly absurd, no matter how highly Riga rates him.

Almost every step they take seems to be twisted and interpreted as them destroying the club.

Fixed that for you.

He's respected and highly rated at Liege. We've been shipping goals at a ridiculous rate lately so have moved to stop it.

Four and a half years? Really? They wouldn't give Yann two years, but this guy gets four and a half. C'mon Swisdom, get real mate.

A short contract shows we have no ambition
A long contract shows we are foolhardy.

The bottom line is a contract means very little. If he's turnip we'll get rid of him. If he is great we'll keep him for the duration of the contract.

I actually think he will become very popular (certainly with the ladies) and maybe even a bit of a cult hero. There - that's my cock on the block!

"It comes down to the fact that she's not up to doing these negotiations, IMO"

Airman - evidence is there that this is not just your opinion. There is a lot of fact to support this. The failures are a long list and successes very short. This is very expensive and RD must realise this and that her decisions are costing him large sums every year. Therefore I am convinced we will have a new CEO, either shortly or in the summer.

Airman Brown said:

Swisdom said:

Algarveaddick said:

Swisdom said:

boggzy said:

Airman Brown said:

Ollywozere said:

cafc-west said:

Be nice if they could get the Tex..... Stories consistent. One says 3.5 year contract and the other 4.5 years...which is it @Ollywozere ?

Unfortunately, we were given the wrong info. We were only told it was 4.5 after publishing. Should all be in line now.

4.5 years for an unproven (in this league) 29-year-old is thoroughly absurd, no matter how highly Riga rates him.

Almost every step they take seems to be twisted and interpreted as them destroying the club.

Fixed that for you.

He's respected and highly rated at Liege. We've been shipping goals at a ridiculous rate lately so have moved to stop it.

Four and a half years? Really? They wouldn't give Yann two years, but this guy gets four and a half. C'mon Swisdom, get real mate.

A short contract shows we have no ambition
A long contract shows we are foolhardy.

The bottom line is a contract means very little. If he's turnip we'll get rid of him. If he is great we'll keep him for the duration of the contract.

I actually think he will become very popular (certainly with the ladies) and maybe even a bit of a cult hero. There - that's my cock on the block!

I don't think anyone would have batted an eyelid at a 2.5-year contract, to be honest. It's all very well saying we'll just get rid, but players don't simply agree to walk away from these deals, they expect to be paid a substantial part of what they have been promised in agreeing to leave, particularly if their residual earning potential is lower than the existing commitment.

More to the point we now have a whole list of these stupidly long contracts, including Polish Pete, which we can't get out of because in Meire's words "there is no market" for him.

It comes down to the fact that she's not up to doing these negotiations, IMO.

That's outrageous Murray said she was a fantastic negotiator and we all believe Murray

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

stonemuse said:

Are there tax advantages for the club if contract is 4.5 years rather than 2.5 years?

Bearing in mind that KM has a legal background, perhaps this is the case?

Not sure if footballers' contact and resale values are depreciated in the same manner as conventional fixed assets. Would be interested to know.

I'm sure they amortise the fee over the term of the contract but I'm not sure that would be of any benefit to a club losing money each year, especially when the FFP allowances are way more than we are losing.

I thought someone said he was on this length contract at Standard Liege and so really to get him to move we had to offer the same?

Whether that's a good idea or not depends on whether he plays well but it's certainly not risk free is it?

Still if you run the club like an idiot, eventually you will have to pay the price.

I reckon I could have saved the club a good £5m over the past two years by:

A) not being a twat all of the time
bothering to send a couple of fans over to games to watch players I was interested in and then listening to their views as to suitability in the Championship
C) not selling players who are doing well for less than market value
D) not bringing in players who haven't demostrated current championship form on long contracts (Naby Sarr, I'm thinking of you, and Johnson etc etc)
E) not employing Meire in the first place and if I'd made such an error, rectifying it quickly.
F) employing a manager who isn't an idiot, knows the league and has at least some say in transfer decisions and total say in team selection along with his (probably would be a man) choice of back room team
G) employ decent doctor/Physio/nutritionist and look to integrate into training plans to ensure potential weaknesses are trained against
H) not alienated the fans but instead talked to them from the start, maybe even given the supporters trust 15% of the shares and an elected representative on the Board
I) 3 football for a fiver a year or reductions on home midweek games to £10