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Exclusive: Karel Fraeye responds to Charlton Athletic recruitment rumours - SLP

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  • daveydanger
    daveydanger Posts: 1,341
    Best case scenario (in terms of relevant experience for the job) KF was coach at some shit amateur team in Belgium, and scouted a load of crap players for us.

    Worst case is that he was just a coach at some shit amateur team in Belgium.


    Either way, Karel Fraeye OUT.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    If he was at games whilst SCP was here , who spotted him?, and who id'd him?
  • After he was appointed, didn't Fraeye say something about how well he already knew the players?
  • tricky
    tricky Posts: 1,291
    edited January 2016
    http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=201412&date=20141226&time=1957

    "The bell is ringing for me*"


    *me being that guy who just scouts for Alcorcon and manages Hamme but has seen all Charlton's games but has nothing to do with Charlton's recruitment but apart from Bauer and Vetokele so I have no reason to be there apart from I was but I wasn't there to help with recruitment apart from it was January but I was inconsipicuous and I wasn't there in an official capacity apart from the fact that I was telling everyone the bell was f'n ringing for me and I don't know any of the players because I wasn't involved except I do because I told everyone I know all of them

    Get your story straight Karel
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    If he was at games whilst SCP was here , who spotted him?, and who id'd him?

    I did.
  • Oakster
    Oakster Posts: 6,812
    I have wondered if given RD's obsession with statistics he got Fraeye confused with this guy - there is a certain similarity...

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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    seth plum said:

    If he was at games whilst SCP was here , who spotted him?, and who id'd him?

    I did.
    And how did you know who he was?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    seth plum said:

    If he was at games whilst SCP was here , who spotted him?, and who id'd him?

    I did.
    And how did you know who he was?
    He told me his name.

  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    If he was at games whilst SCP was here , who spotted him?, and who id'd him?

    I did.
    And how did you know who he was?
    He told me his name.

    So, did you go up to some random bloke and say 'who are you'?!
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Not exactly random, we were in the directors lounge after the 0-2 loss to Birmingham City.

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  • Football managers tend to contradict themselves. A mark of a good manager is when their contradictions are few and take a longer time to be exposed as bunkum

    Curbishley Gospel - keep your powder dry so you don't create contradictions later on.

    Colin Fraeye is a duplicitous no-mark, a snakey operator.

    No he isn't definitely lying. Noone knows for sure. But the contradictions are there for all to see and seem to occur on a weekly basis.

    What we do know is that he is such a small persona he has to big himself up at every opportunity, taking credit and distancing from any responsibility

    Pretty much the opposite of how leaders act.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    seth plum said:

    Not exactly random, we were in the directors lounge after the 0-2 loss to Birmingham City.

    Which was 8th Feb, and SCP was sacked after the SHeff U game on 9th March.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    seth plum said:

    Not exactly random, we were in the directors lounge after the 0-2 loss to Birmingham City.

    Which was 8th Feb, and SCP was sacked after the SHeff U game on 9th March.
    Yes.

  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,201
    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    Not exactly random, we were in the directors lounge after the 0-2 loss to Birmingham City.

    Which was 8th Feb, and SCP was sacked after the SHeff U game on 9th March.
    Yes.

    Hmmm and can you remember what you were both wearing?
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,725
    To be honest don't believe anything that comes out of the club since the lies, bullshit and more lies that we have been fed.

    Anyway the guy is so far out of his depth it's almost funny well I suppose he is the biggest clown we have had in years (and we have had a few).

  • I have no idea if Carol is lying. Either way, just give him hell tomorrow.
  • seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    Not exactly random, we were in the directors lounge after the 0-2 loss to Birmingham City.

    Which was 8th Feb, and SCP was sacked after the SHeff U game on 9th March.
    Yes.

    Objection your honour.
    Is the President's line of questioning going anywhere?
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,898
    edited January 2016

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    Not exactly random, we were in the directors lounge after the 0-2 loss to Birmingham City.

    Which was 8th Feb, and SCP was sacked after the SHeff U game on 9th March.
    Yes.

    Objection your honour.
    Is the President's line of questioning going anywhere?
    Overruled, please continue Mr President :wink: .
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,187
    edited January 2016
    I don't believe Karel is lying. However, I don't think he's telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
  • GretnaGreenAddick
    GretnaGreenAddick Posts: 3,085
    edited January 2016
    This is second hand information but a family friend who was doing some work for the club at the time, told me recently that Fraeye was at the club early after the takeover during that infamous first transfer window, as a club staff member who he was on friendly terms with told my friend when he asked, that he was here assessing the squad for the new owner.

    Now obviously my friend may be mistaken as this is something from a couple of years ago but he insists it was Fraeye.

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  • mogodon said:

    If the team showed as much fight and ability to get under opponents' skins as @Desperate_Pete, @colin1961 and @PL54 then we'd be pushing for promotion ...

    We'd have won the Champions League.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,374
    edited January 2016
    seth plum said:

    Not exactly random, we were in the directors lounge after the 0-2 loss to Birmingham City.

    I take it Fraeye was there checking up on the Polish dude. He must have been impressed with his five minute appearance.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,619
    Shit scout
    Shit manager.

    You don't have to be shit at everything to work for Roly....... But it helps!
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757

    mogodon said:

    If the team showed as much fight and ability to get under opponents' skins as @Desperate_Pete, @colin1961 and @PL54 then we'd be pushing for promotion ...

    We'd have won the Champions League.
    Not the Moaning League?
  • BR3red
    BR3red Posts: 1,715
    PL54 said:

    mogodon said:

    If the team showed as much fight and ability to get under opponents' skins as @Desperate_Pete, @colin1961 and @PL54 then we'd be pushing for promotion ...

    We'd have won the Champions League.
    Not the Moaning League?
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  • Oakster said:

    I genuinely think they think we are stupid.

    He has watched all our games since he left in May 2014 - which is no mean feat as only about 3 of them have been televised in that period!!

    He has watched ALL our games!!!!!!!!

    He is giving Seb a run for his money then if he has!
  • Henry Irving Member
    December 2015
    KF was responsible for the player recruitment

    So Mr Hayes you are not infallible after all! :smile:
    Remember I told you the difference between opinion and fact...... maybe you will not be so quick to jump to erroneous conclusions that abound on this forum but please, keep to the other good work you do for Charlton.
    There are enough lies flying around the club at the moment so we must try not to add to them eh?

    I did wonder when you would turn up.

    Have you read the rest of the comments?

    Clearly not.

    You are quick to claim a victory and gloat but you're jumped the gun.

    Firstly I've never claimed I was infallible.

    What we have seen is that KF told you what he told the CAFC press team. That the same person has told the same or a similar tale is not surprising but neither is it confirmation.

    But as others have pointed out his statements don't stack up and his role still hasn't been explained.

    He has told people that he scouted Bauer but didn't say that in his interview. Which was the "lie"?

    So FACT He is telling different stories to different people

    So FACT He has admitted he has been scouting for the network. He says only in Spain although he was based in Belgium.

    So FACT he hasn't explained what his role in the network was before Powell was sacked when he was often at games. Presumably so he could recommend players for the Spanish club Roland owned ; - )

    Sorry to disappoint but thanks for the compliment.

    Henry I assure you that you have not disappointed me. Sorry that I 'turned up' as you say. I did not seek a 'victory' or post to gloat. I just posted to state that you were wrong to state opinion as fact, which has led to many others believing this 'fact' when it is not. Simple really but you seem to want to deflect your mistake....
    PS. I admit that perhaps I felt a little smug for showing what a pretentious twat you are at times but many love you so that's okay.
    Henry is not pretentious



    ;0)

  • seth plum said:

    Not exactly random, we were in the directors lounge after the 0-2 loss to Birmingham City.

    Can back Seth up on this one.

  • Oakster said:

    I have wondered if given RD's obsession with statistics he got Fraeye confused with this guy - there is a certain similarity...

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    Elton John? Isn't he Watford?
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    They're all superstars just waiting to settle into English football.