Following recent meetings with supporters, Charlton's CEO provides fans with an update - From OS
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So people of no faith can be ignored then as they have nothing to contribute to positive community relations.East Kent Addick said:
http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-athletic-community-trust-inter-faith-2807396.aspxiainment said:
I'm not on twitter. Interfaith event what's that all about?Henry Irving said:
That's interesting because I was thinking that the volume and type of tweets had changed. Lots on the interfaith event for example.henrythecat said:I wonder if this statement is as a result of the new (interim) communications officer which, I am told, is now in place, whilst the search goes on for a permanent one.
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Amen, to that statement.iainment said:
So people of no faith can be ignored then as they have nothing to contribute to positive community relations.East Kent Addick said:
http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-athletic-community-trust-inter-faith-2807396.aspxiainment said:
I'm not on twitter. Interfaith event what's that all about?Henry Irving said:
That's interesting because I was thinking that the volume and type of tweets had changed. Lots on the interfaith event for example.henrythecat said:I wonder if this statement is as a result of the new (interim) communications officer which, I am told, is now in place, whilst the search goes on for a permanent one.
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If this turns out to be as fruitful as our Inter milan link up it can only be a great success.East Kent Addick said:
http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-athletic-community-trust-inter-faith-2807396.aspxiainment said:
I'm not on twitter. Interfaith event what's that all about?Henry Irving said:
That's interesting because I was thinking that the volume and type of tweets had changed. Lots on the interfaith event for example.henrythecat said:I wonder if this statement is as a result of the new (interim) communications officer which, I am told, is now in place, whilst the search goes on for a permanent one.
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February.Curb_It said:
I thought there was a permanent one due to start in the new year?henrythecat said:I wonder if this statement is as a result of the new (interim) communications officer which, I am told, is now in place, whilst the search goes on for a permanent one.
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The discussions represent a positive chink of light and I am pleased that KM has finally emerged from her bunker to meet supporters, both as a group and, subsequently, with Steve Clarke of the Trust. Let's hope that future discussions take place in the right spirit and that the regime are prepared to both listen and keep an open mind regarding change.
Progress has most certainly been made, although we know that future dialogue will, ultimately, be meaningless unless we can persuade RD to reconsider his approach to the running of CAFC. Although KM is not the real issue here, even on the most generous construction, her approach tends to be reactive and we well remember last season when she was too busy to meet with supporters because she was concentrating on avoiding relegation (as one wag on here remarked, prehaps she was taking training). This, coupled with her demeanour at last week's meeting, means that she 'has form' in the eyes of many. She will be desperately hoping that Fraeye can pick up a couple of decent results to placate supporters and that the protests will eventually 'blow over'. The difficulty, of course, is that the revolving door of managers/coaches and the skewed policy of player recruitment are structural problems which will continue to recur time and again, regardless of any short term upturn in results. Ultimately, I fear, it will see us in League 1.
It is, I think, imperative to keep the pressure up on all fronts, not least to disabuse RD of KM's ridiculous suggestion that the protests only involve a very small group of madmen shouting at the traffic. The 30% season ticket holders who are not turning up is telling and he is likely to be very aware of that. Whilst RD doesn't appear to have much (if any) interest in, or regard for, the views of supporters, continued protests will help establish the right sort of backcloth and framework for further discussions and - we hope - some changes in his the present approach. There is nothing, in my view, inconsistent in pursuing both courses of action vigorously.11 -
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Following meetings with Club supporters, Katrien has now found enough 'yes men ' to form a committee.6
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I hear that after the fans meeting they realised they needed someone quickly to help so have got someone in. Something AB and others has been saying for a while now.Badger said:
February.Curb_It said:
I thought there was a permanent one due to start in the new year?henrythecat said:I wonder if this statement is as a result of the new (interim) communications officer which, I am told, is now in place, whilst the search goes on for a permanent one.
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Is how I read it too.Granpa said:Following meetings with Club supporters, Katrien has now found enough 'yes men ' to form a committee.
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That's out of order imhoGranpa said:Following meetings with Club supporters, Katrien has now found enough 'yes men ' to form a committee.
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It is, but he is also batting around the truth sadly enough.. Katrien is playing this all by her rules and a lot of our supporters are playing into her hands. Her wording and timing is not coincidental, and nor is her play acting around the sadness the protests... If they really upset her enough to almost break down why was she laughing at fans and taking photos/videos at the time?ShootersHillGuru said:
That's out of order imhoGranpa said:Following meetings with Club supporters, Katrien has now found enough 'yes men ' to form a committee.
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Would make a lot of sense getting in some people to support the CEO, and help out the comms team.henrythecat said:I wonder if this statement is as a result of the new (interim) communications officer which, I am told, is now in place, whilst the search goes on for a permanent one.
I was surprised that there would be such a long wait until the new person came in and then got up to speed, as I had mentioned on previous threads.
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Bit bizarre. This was an inter-faith event. Why would a report of it talk about people of no faith?iainment said:
So people of no faith can be ignored then as they have nothing to contribute to positive community relations.East Kent Addick said:
http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-athletic-community-trust-inter-faith-2807396.aspxiainment said:
I'm not on twitter. Interfaith event what's that all about?Henry Irving said:
That's interesting because I was thinking that the volume and type of tweets had changed. Lots on the interfaith event for example.henrythecat said:I wonder if this statement is as a result of the new (interim) communications officer which, I am told, is now in place, whilst the search goes on for a permanent one.
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If it's about improving community relations ignoring a group as large as the people of no faith is surely counter productive. After all it is estimated that the no faith population is about 12% of the world population.rikofold said:
Bit bizarre. This was an inter-faith event. Why would a report of it talk about people of no faith?iainment said:
So people of no faith can be ignored then as they have nothing to contribute to positive community relations.East Kent Addick said:
http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-athletic-community-trust-inter-faith-2807396.aspxiainment said:
I'm not on twitter. Interfaith event what's that all about?Henry Irving said:
That's interesting because I was thinking that the volume and type of tweets had changed. Lots on the interfaith event for example.henrythecat said:I wonder if this statement is as a result of the new (interim) communications officer which, I am told, is now in place, whilst the search goes on for a permanent one.
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Pointing out the flaws of basing things on a lack of evidence is shaky ground when defending religion.rikofold said:
Bit bizarre. This was an inter-faith event. Why would a report of it talk about people of no faith?iainment said:
So people of no faith can be ignored then as they have nothing to contribute to positive community relations.East Kent Addick said:
http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-athletic-community-trust-inter-faith-2807396.aspxiainment said:
I'm not on twitter. Interfaith event what's that all about?Henry Irving said:
That's interesting because I was thinking that the volume and type of tweets had changed. Lots on the interfaith event for example.henrythecat said:I wonder if this statement is as a result of the new (interim) communications officer which, I am told, is now in place, whilst the search goes on for a permanent one.
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Except I wasn't defending religion, I was asking why an article about an inter-faith conference "as part of Inter Faith Week" would focus on people with no faith.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Pointing out the flaws of basing things on a lack of evidence is shaky ground when defending religion.rikofold said:
Bit bizarre. This was an inter-faith event. Why would a report of it talk about people of no faith?iainment said:
So people of no faith can be ignored then as they have nothing to contribute to positive community relations.East Kent Addick said:
http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-athletic-community-trust-inter-faith-2807396.aspxiainment said:
I'm not on twitter. Interfaith event what's that all about?Henry Irving said:
That's interesting because I was thinking that the volume and type of tweets had changed. Lots on the interfaith event for example.henrythecat said:I wonder if this statement is as a result of the new (interim) communications officer which, I am told, is now in place, whilst the search goes on for a permanent one.
It's a bit like saying that cats can be ignored because they weren't mentioned at Crufts.1 -
Did you even read the article? It was a q&a talking about the positive aspects of living in a multi-faith society. It wasn't an exclusive planning session on transforming society.iainment said:
If it's about improving community relations ignoring a group as large as the people of no faith is surely counter productive. After all it is estimated that the no faith population is about 12% of the world population.rikofold said:
Bit bizarre. This was an inter-faith event. Why would a report of it talk about people of no faith?iainment said:
So people of no faith can be ignored then as they have nothing to contribute to positive community relations.East Kent Addick said:
http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-athletic-community-trust-inter-faith-2807396.aspxiainment said:
I'm not on twitter. Interfaith event what's that all about?Henry Irving said:
That's interesting because I was thinking that the volume and type of tweets had changed. Lots on the interfaith event for example.henrythecat said:I wonder if this statement is as a result of the new (interim) communications officer which, I am told, is now in place, whilst the search goes on for a permanent one.
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Another blatant signal of the Board's lack of ambition...please raise it when you meet ;-)rikofold said:
Did you even read the article? It was a q&a talking about the positive aspects of living in a multi-faith society. It wasn't an exclusive planning session on transforming society.iainment said:
If it's about improving community relations ignoring a group as large as the people of no faith is surely counter productive. After all it is estimated that the no faith population is about 12% of the world population.rikofold said:
Bit bizarre. This was an inter-faith event. Why would a report of it talk about people of no faith?iainment said:
So people of no faith can be ignored then as they have nothing to contribute to positive community relations.East Kent Addick said:
http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-athletic-community-trust-inter-faith-2807396.aspxiainment said:
I'm not on twitter. Interfaith event what's that all about?Henry Irving said:
That's interesting because I was thinking that the volume and type of tweets had changed. Lots on the interfaith event for example.henrythecat said:I wonder if this statement is as a result of the new (interim) communications officer which, I am told, is now in place, whilst the search goes on for a permanent one.
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Don't knock it. It's a step forward.0
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I did read it and they said it was about improving community relations, as long as you have faith. Atheists and agnostics just bugger off and know your place.rikofold said:
Did you even read the article? It was a q&a talking about the positive aspects of living in a multi-faith society. It wasn't an exclusive planning session on transforming society.iainment said:
If it's about improving community relations ignoring a group as large as the people of no faith is surely counter productive. After all it is estimated that the no faith population is about 12% of the world population.rikofold said:
Bit bizarre. This was an inter-faith event. Why would a report of it talk about people of no faith?iainment said:
So people of no faith can be ignored then as they have nothing to contribute to positive community relations.East Kent Addick said:
http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-athletic-community-trust-inter-faith-2807396.aspxiainment said:
I'm not on twitter. Interfaith event what's that all about?Henry Irving said:
That's interesting because I was thinking that the volume and type of tweets had changed. Lots on the interfaith event for example.henrythecat said:I wonder if this statement is as a result of the new (interim) communications officer which, I am told, is now in place, whilst the search goes on for a permanent one.
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It's a side step which is being viewed as supporters as a mini win, just in my opinion. If anything I'd say it edges into the side that it's more of a step forward for KM than us.Dippenhall said:Don't knock it. It's a step forward.
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At the moment Meire probably thinks she has pacified the natives.Atletico Addick said:
It's a side step which is being viewed as supporters as a mini win, just in my opinion. If anything I'd say it edges into the side that it's more of a step forward for KM than us.Dippenhall said:Don't knock it. It's a step forward.
A successful next two games then she may think she's right, a troubled next two games then she'll brought back to earth with a bump.0 -
What worries me from some comments on various threads is that she seems to have won over a fair number of people. Amazing given her poor performance and lack of anything of substance. Guess we may get what we deserve. Last one out turn off the lights please.ElfsborgAddick said:At the moment Meire probably thinks she has pacified the natives.
A successful next two games then she may think she's right, a troubled next two games then she'll brought back to earth with a bump.
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The strategy is flawed and will fail, so even if she manages to pacify people for a few games, the whole question will raise again and again, until Duchatelet and Meire gets lost or more unlikely they completely change their strategy.5
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Credit where it's due. She's starting to say the right things & suggesting that she has taken notice.
We shall have to see what develops.2 -
IMO she's playing games to placate the protestersCovered End said:Credit where it's due. She's starting to say the right things & suggesting that she has taken notice.
We shall have to see what develops.6 -
Sounds like you prefer protest to progress. If the need for protest is removed what are you worried about. If no progress is made what stops protest?Arsenetatters said:
IMO she's playing games to placate the protestersCovered End said:Credit where it's due. She's starting to say the right things & suggesting that she has taken notice.
We shall have to see what develops.
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Would be interested to know what her demeanour is from those who are seeing her in private. Is she being genuinely placatory or giving any hint of humility?1
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Quite possibly. But if she doesn't come up with what she has promised in black & white, then her position will be become even more precarious, so I feel she has little alternative, but to do so.Arsenetatters said:
IMO she's playing games to placate the protestersCovered End said:Credit where it's due. She's starting to say the right things & suggesting that she has taken notice.
We shall have to see what develops.0 -
Dippenhall said:
Sounds like you prefer protest to progress. If the need for protest is removed what are you worried about. If no progress is made what stops protest?Arsenetatters said:
IMO she's playing games to placate the protestersCovered End said:Credit where it's due. She's starting to say the right things & suggesting that she has taken notice.
We shall have to see what develops.Covered End said:
Quite possibly. But if she doesn't come up with what she has promised in black & white, then her position will be become even more precarious, so I feel she has little alternative, but to do so.Arsenetatters said:
IMO she's playing games to placate the protestersCovered End said:Credit where it's due. She's starting to say the right things & suggesting that she has taken notice.
We shall have to see what develops.
I don't think I phrased that very well. What I meant is that IMO she's playing games to placate the fans generally. This seems to have worked with some as they believe it's progress. I think it's just empty words not 'meaningful dialogue'. Nothing of any substance as usual. I wish people weren't taken in by it.5
