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Another Shooting In America?

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    Trying hard to think of a plus side.
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    edited November 2015
    http://youtu.be/1nAfWfF4TjM

    Making people think before they get a gun.
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    http://youtu.be/1nAfWfF4TjM

    Making people think before they get a gun.

    Saw this the other day. Quite powerful, but found myself wondering whether the prospective buyers were being honest afterwards or saying what they thought they should for the camera.
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    http://youtu.be/1nAfWfF4TjM

    Making people think before they get a gun.

    Great video. I just wonder how many people saw the tags and thought "hmm..." and agreed to buy them...
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    Reports on news feeds that it is kicking off in San Bernadino.

    3 shooters with rifles, camo, body armour.

    20+ dead.
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    Reports on news feeds that it is kicking off in San Bernadino.

    3 shooters with rifles, camo, body armour.

    20+ dead.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/12030160/California-shooting-Multiple-victims-reported-in-San-Bernardino-live.html
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    Am I reading twitter correctly that it was in a development centre for disabled children???!!!!!
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    FBI "we are unsure if it's terrorism"

    Erm, three blokes entering a building and killing 14 people whilst injuring just as many.... that's terrorism.

    Or have we actually got to the stage now where we have to confirm it was Arab looking men with long beards for it to be terrorism.
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    Live feed CNN showing police approaching suspects car now.
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    The black suv is riddled with holes and someone laying beside it I hope it's the right car
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    edited December 2015

    The black suv is riddled with holes and someone laying beside it I hope it's the right car

    Murica doesn't give a shit if its the right car, if its a blacked out car with ethnic minorities in it, most of the police out there seem to think it's fair game
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    If they class it as terrorism, then it's a good excuse to do more mass surveillance, tighter immigration, more law enforcement attacking minorities.

    If it's not terrorism then nothing will be done, god forbid anybody loses the right to carry an assault rifle around.
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    This is deeply saddening and I hope that motives are established before either camp gets their teeth in. The NRA must be rubbing their hands together over the names that have been released. But then that's me getting ahead of it.

    RIP to the victims of another shocking mass shooting.
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    If you're on twitter, have a look at @igorvolsky for a huge list of politicians given donations by the NRA to use prayer (and only prayer) to stop gun violence

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    For reference, California has some of the toughest anti-gun laws in the US, but people can travel to/from other states.
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    sam3110 said:

    The black suv is riddled with holes and someone laying beside it I hope it's the right car

    Murica doesn't give a shit if its the right car, if its a blacked out car with ethnic minorities in it, most of the police out there seem to think it's fair game
    What a load of bollocks.
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    limeygent said:

    sam3110 said:

    The black suv is riddled with holes and someone laying beside it I hope it's the right car

    Murica doesn't give a shit if its the right car, if its a blacked out car with ethnic minorities in it, most of the police out there seem to think it's fair game
    What a load of bollocks.
    The voice of reason speaks
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    limeygent said:

    sam3110 said:

    The black suv is riddled with holes and someone laying beside it I hope it's the right car

    Murica doesn't give a shit if its the right car, if its a blacked out car with ethnic minorities in it, most of the police out there seem to think it's fair game
    What a load of bollocks.
    The voice of Fox News reason speaks
    Fixed that for you.

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    limeygent said:

    sam3110 said:

    The black suv is riddled with holes and someone laying beside it I hope it's the right car

    Murica doesn't give a shit if its the right car, if its a blacked out car with ethnic minorities in it, most of the police out there seem to think it's fair game
    What a load of bollocks.
    The voice of reason speaks
    So the cops were behind a vehicle matching the description of the vehicle involved in the shooting, someone starts firing at them through the back window, what would you suggest they do?
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    Write a letter

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    Write a letter

    As effective as most of the lefty suggestions on here.
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    edited December 2015
    Goonerhater Corbyn.

    Has a certain ring to it i s'pose.
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    Because the latest (at time of writing) mass shooting in America was carried out by Muslims good old Donald Trump is now calling for a blanket ban on Muslims entering the country. Even other Republicans are calling him rude names about this one. It's a bit too mental even for Dick Cheney!

    Never mind the fact that this shooting represents less than 2% of the deaths from mass shootings in America in this year alone. Never mind that one of the shooters was US-born. Let's just ban all Muslims entering the country cos we can't have religious lunatics with guns unless they're Christians!!
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