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Southeastern train disruption (franchise to be taken over by Govt p191)

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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    From Southeastern

    December 2015 – January 2016


    From Christmas Eve to 3 January 2016, Thameslink Programme improvement work affecting London Bridge means no trains will be stopping at Charing Cross, Waterloo East, Cannon Street and London Bridge.

    There will be a revised timetable and those trains going into and from London will start/terminate at Victoria, Blackfriars or New Cross. This means that trains may be busier than usual.

    Please note that the three working days during this time will also be affected by these station closures. Tickets will be accepted on alternative routes on Transport for London services. More detail will be available shortly.

    There will be no Southeastern trains from 8.00pm on Christmas Eve, so please be aware that last trains from Charing Cross and Cannon Street will be earlier than normal and you need to check before you travel for the revised timetable.

    The following stations will not have direct trains to London throughout this period. Replacement buses will be available, and tickets will be accepted on alternative routes - Belvedere, Catford Bridge, Clock House, Deptford, Eden Park, Elmers End, Erith, Greenwich, Hayes, Lower Sydenham, Maidstone West, Maze Hill, New Cross, New Beckenham, Snodland, St Johns, West Wickham, Westcombe Park and Woolwich Dockyard.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,053
    ChiAddick said:

    Traffic on the a2 was mental.

    Took us an hour from joining it at Well Hall into Canary Wharf. To be fair, that's what we expected.
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,435

    Rizzo said:

    Curb_It said:

    And another thing... someone's suggested the person taken ill on board at London Bridge was probably caused by overcrowding and overheating! Well they are just guessing there but I would be very interested to know if it was part of the problem.

    Wouldn't be the first time I've seen people faint due to being overcrowded and overheated. Had one woman collapse onto my lap one day!!

    Of course, it usually happens to women who are wearing hat, gloves, scarf and big winter coat. Can't think why...
    Chloroform?
    It's possible the passenger next to her may have put some in his armpit. She seemed to be getting a good whiff of that.

  • Alex Wright
    Alex Wright Posts: 8,214

    From Southeastern

    December 2015 – January 2016


    From Christmas Eve to 3 January 2016, Thameslink Programme improvement work affecting London Bridge means no trains will be stopping at Charing Cross, Waterloo East, Cannon Street and London Bridge.

    There will be a revised timetable and those trains going into and from London will start/terminate at Victoria, Blackfriars or New Cross. This means that trains may be busier than usual.

    Please note that the three working days during this time will also be affected by these station closures. Tickets will be accepted on alternative routes on Transport for London services. More detail will be available shortly.

    There will be no Southeastern trains from 8.00pm on Christmas Eve, so please be aware that last trains from Charing Cross and Cannon Street will be earlier than normal and you need to check before you travel for the revised timetable.

    The following stations will not have direct trains to London throughout this period. Replacement buses will be available, and tickets will be accepted on alternative routes - Belvedere, Catford Bridge, Clock House, Deptford, Eden Park, Elmers End, Erith, Greenwich, Hayes, Lower Sydenham, Maidstone West, Maze Hill, New Cross, New Beckenham, Snodland, St Johns, West Wickham, Westcombe Park and Woolwich Dockyard.

    I take it the odds on this work over running are shorter than Curbs being the next Charlton Manager.
  • There's a tree on the line at Plumstead. Causing major agg.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,739

    There's a tree on the line at Plumstead. Causing major agg.

    A grey haired elderly gentleman with a Flemish accent was last seen walking away from the track with an axe...
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958

    There's a tree on the line at Plumstead. Causing major agg.

    A grey haired elderly gentleman with a Flemish accent was last seen walking away from the track with an axe...
    I thought RD was a Wallon - give me the Flemish anyday.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601

    There's a tree on the line at Plumstead. Causing major agg.

    F*****g trees giving it large.
  • I hadn't realised there were more engineering works this weekend, arrived at London Bridge this morning, only to find no trains running from there to Charlton...

    A bit of warning from the club might have been nice, seeing that they sent me a preview email (3 times) yesterday which never said anything...
  • Not nice this morning.
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  • Not nice this morning.

    Not nice this morning.

    Mrs Hastings caught the 6.40 from Hastings to Cannon Street this morning, was told it would terminate at London Bridge, if that's as bad as it gets she will be lucky.
  • ChiAddick
    ChiAddick Posts: 1,781
    They have actually been pretty good for a few weeks until this morning. Major signalling problems I was told.
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,435
    ChiAddick said:

    They have actually been pretty good for a few weeks until this morning. Major signalling problems I was told.

    Really? I literally cannot remember the last time my train departed or arrived on time, morning or evening. Okay, they might not be 'late' by Southeastern's definition (ie, 30 minutes late on a 33 minute journey) but we're generally looking at 5+ minutes each way every single day.

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561

    Not nice this morning.

    Not nice this morning.

    Mrs Hastings caught the 6.40 from Hastings to Cannon Street this morning, was told it would terminate at London Bridge, if that's as bad as it gets she will be lucky.
    I got the 6.45am from Battle to CX and was told it would terminate at Ldn Bridge but by the time we got there the situation had been resolved and it went to CX as normal and just four minutes behind schedule.

  • Hastingsaddick
    Hastingsaddick Posts: 4,079
    edited December 2015

    Not nice this morning.

    Not nice this morning.

    Mrs Hastings caught the 6.40 from Hastings to Cannon Street this morning, was told it would terminate at London Bridge, if that's as bad as it gets she will be lucky.
    I got the 6.45am from Battle to CX and was told it would terminate at Ldn Bridge but by the time we got there the situation had been resolved and it went to CX as normal and just four minutes behind schedule.

    That's not to bad then....will be at Battle latter to pick Mrs H up....she gets off the 6.55pm at Battle though it's never on time (usually 5-10 min late).
  • ChiAddick
    ChiAddick Posts: 1,781
    Rizzo said:

    ChiAddick said:

    They have actually been pretty good for a few weeks until this morning. Major signalling problems I was told.

    Really? I literally cannot remember the last time my train departed or arrived on time, morning or evening. Okay, they might not be 'late' by Southeastern's definition (ie, 30 minutes late on a 33 minute journey) but we're generally looking at 5+ minutes each way every single day.

    Guess it depends on the line.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    edited December 2015
    Just a reminder that this sack of shit are at it again tomorrow.

    No trains to Charing Cross, London Bridge, Waterloo East or Cannon Street.

    Shower of shite make RD and KM look good. And I don't give a shit if it's National Rail either, they're c***'s as well.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    Tomorrow? They're at it tonight mate. Any more shenanigans and I'm danger of getting home sober
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,987
    edited December 2015

    This sack of shit are at it again tomorrow.

    No trains to Charing Cross, London Bridge, Waterloo East or Cannon Street.

    Shower of shite make RD and KM look good. And I don't give a shit if it's National Rail either, they're c***'s as well.

    Indeed, I was at Waterloo this evening. Instead of 45 minutes to Greenhithe it was 1 hour 25 as I had to mess about with the tube and get an extra slow train from Victoria. I don't understand how they can charge full prices.

    I feel sorry for anyone who's working near Waterloo, London Bridge etc this week.
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    Bus to Eltham, Train to Victoria and walked through Hyde Park to Paddington as the sun was coming up at 7.30. If it wasn't damp I would have cycled up on a Boris bike.

    Thanks South Eastern for allowing me to get some fresh air and walk off at least one mince pie doing the first bit of excercise of the festive season!
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  • addick1965
    addick1965 Posts: 5,092
    Took an hour to get to London Bridge today from New Eltham via Blackfriars....might get the 132 to North Greenwich tomorrow
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    @addick1965 It's defo easier and more frequent trains from Eltham to Victoria. Every 15-20 mins or so. Then district and jubilee line to london bridge takes about 10 mins? The 132 wasn't on the bus time update thing for about 30 mins today, and it predicted 40 mins from Eltham to North Greenwich.
    The New Eltham line seems every 30 mins to Blackfriars which is about as helpful as a chocolate teapot.
  • addick1965
    addick1965 Posts: 5,092
    Cheers @suzisausage,Eltham-Victoria it is tomorrow then.
  • addick1965
    addick1965 Posts: 5,092
    London Overground trains with no seats so they can pack more people on them...deep joy :)
  • ChiAddick
    ChiAddick Posts: 1,781
    Tfl won't make a difference. Unless they build more lines packed trains will continue. Look at all the new properties being built. No new trains or lines tho. It will be like the tube. All standing.
  • EastStand
    EastStand Posts: 4,109
    DOES THIS MEAN I WON'T BE ABLE TO DRINK ON THE EFFIN TRAINS NOW?!
  • With TFL in charge it'll also give more power to the Unions, when the tubes strike, the railways will also shut down so how does anyone get into London?
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    With TFL in charge it'll also give more power to the Unions, when the tubes strike, the railways will also shut down so how does anyone get into London?

    do the buses go on strike at the same time as the tube? There's your answer.

    Great news, shame it doesn't extend down to tunbridge wells, but i should be firmly back up in london by 2018.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    ChiAddick said:

    Tfl won't make a difference. Unless they build more lines packed trains will continue. Look at all the new properties being built. No new trains or lines tho. It will be like the tube. All standing.

    at least the tube comes and goes regularly and doesn't have constant delays and cancellations