The Illuminati
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Pleased with the general consensus on this thread. It kind of restores the balance for the eye- opening ghost thread.0
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More than likelyI_Saw_Semedo_Score said:
Probably says a lot about you then!shine166 said:
Wouldn't be surprised if there is an element of truth in that, there's a lot of money to be made in peoples pain and sufferingI_Saw_Semedo_Score said:Without doubt the biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard. I remember someone trying to convince me once that there was a genuine cure for cancer which was being withheld by the "Illuminati". It was at that point I gave up on humanity.
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Best marketing ploy in history imo0
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Has no-one on here deduced that our great Belgian owner is one of the Illuminati?0
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No there's no evidence of triangles0
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Illuminati is Italian for floodlights. Fact.1 -
Underground, Hmmmm....cafc-west said:Pretty sure it used to exist (and maybe still does - but underground). Anyone interested should read this - by Robert Anton Wilson (one of my favourite authors) - The Illuminatus Trilogy. Little bit dated now and a mix of facts and fiction. Hilarious in places.
A 2 day Illuminati Jolly taking place this coming Weds & Thurs ?
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I would not be surprised if pharmaceutical companies held back cheap and effective drugs. These are some of the most powerful companies on the planet. Humans are very money hungry and people have strange ideologies.1
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No such thing as a cheap drug. It takes about ten years to bring a new drug to market and about 1 billion pounds. The last thing business does is refuse to take a profit and have a loss instead.PopIcon said:I would not be surprised if pharmaceutical companies held back cheap and effective drugs. These are some of the most powerful companies on the planet. Humans are very money hungry and people have strange ideologies.
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What i mean is if you can prolong someones life for £300 a month, its cheaper than giving them a cure that will cost £1000.charltonkeston said:
No such thing as a cheap drug. It takes about ten years to bring a new drug to market and about 1 billion pounds. The last thing business does is refuse to take a profit and have a loss instead.PopIcon said:I would not be surprised if pharmaceutical companies held back cheap and effective drugs. These are some of the most powerful companies on the planet. Humans are very money hungry and people have strange ideologies.
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No, should I?creepyaddick said:Have you lot never seen the matrix?
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charltonkeston said:
No such thing as a cheap drug. It takes about ten years to bring a new drug to market and about 1 billion pounds. The last thing business does is refuse to take a profit and have a loss instead.PopIcon said:I would not be surprised if pharmaceutical companies held back cheap and effective drugs. These are some of the most powerful companies on the planet. Humans are very money hungry and people have strange ideologies.
And if the drug saves more lives, but will not make profit.. Then the companies won't bother proceeding. You can grow canabbis for free, but they still continue to make synthetic versions that cost money
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I don't think you understand what the difference between a cure and a treatment is, or that some things cannot be 'cured' or prevented because that is not how pathology works. In 2013 5 of the biggest killers in the UK were:
heart disease
liver disease
stroke
respiratory disease
cancer
The first 3 are primarily due to unhealthy lifestyle and genetic susceptibility, respiratory is a mixture of lifestyle, genetics and also the environment and cancer a mixture of factors. Cancer itself though is split into hundreds of different conditions that all require different types of treatment. As much as someone wanted to make a cure for heart disease, the fact is you cannot cure any of the above like you have vaccines or antibiotics.
The sad thing is, there are plenty of people out there who think that big pharma is engaging in a worldwide conspiracy to withhold life-saving miracle cures for the public so that they can make millions, even though the millions that they make is needed to continue to research and develop new or better drugs and treatments, yet ignore the fact that there are other companies out there making millions out of actively making people less healthy and more susceptible to the 5 above killers, such as tobacco, fast food, soft drinks, alcohol etc.4 -
No, don't waste your time.cafcfan said:
No, should I?creepyaddick said:Have you lot never seen the matrix?
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nobody wants to feel they have been made of mug of all their life which is partly why people rebuff the idea that their life is so heavily controlled. the other part to that is an environment has been created where anyone who is seen to be thinking in an alternative or anti view to the controllers they are villified by the masses usually by laughter.
if people are unable to see through what is currently going on (lets just look at the last 15 years briefly as some wont have been alive long enough to go from 9/11, the following fake wars on terror, recession -the so called bank crisis (they stole your money!), uk top brass banging and possibly killing kids, greece being screwed by investments banks then screwed again by the bigger boys in banking, the displacement of innocent people trying to survive by getting to a better place after west systematically f+cks their countries) then these groups will always win and there is an argument to say you all deserve what you get from them because you let them do it.
they dont exist right? but the evidence is all around you.
your life is very heavily controlled from what you eat to what you read, see and think. but we are all too intelligent to fall for it right?
call them what you like but the do exist and they control your life.
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Prove it.SEFREE said:nobody wants to feel they have been made of mug of all their life which is partly why people rebuff the idea that their life is so heavily controlled. the other part to that is an environment has been created where anyone who is seen to be thinking in an alternative or anti view to the controllers they are villified by the masses usually by laughter.
if people are unable to see through what is currently going on (lets just look at the last 15 years briefly as some wont have been alive long enough to go from 9/11, the following fake wars on terror, recession -the so called bank crisis (they stole your money!), uk top brass banging and possibly killing kids, greece being screwed by investments banks then screwed again by the bigger boys in banking, the displacement of innocent people trying to survive by getting to a better place after west systematically f+cks their countries) then these groups will always win and there is an argument to say you all deserve what you get from them because you let them do it.
they dont exist right? but the evidence is all around you.
your life is very heavily controlled from what you eat to what you read, see and think. but we are all too intelligent to fall for it right?
call them what you like but the do exist and they control your life.
And I don't mean by asking questions such
"Why do think all this happened?"4 -
Okay, why do you think all this happened?Henry Irving said:
Prove it.SEFREE said:nobody wants to feel they have been made of mug of all their life which is partly why people rebuff the idea that their life is so heavily controlled. the other part to that is an environment has been created where anyone who is seen to be thinking in an alternative or anti view to the controllers they are villified by the masses usually by laughter.
if people are unable to see through what is currently going on (lets just look at the last 15 years briefly as some wont have been alive long enough to go from 9/11, the following fake wars on terror, recession -the so called bank crisis (they stole your money!), uk top brass banging and possibly killing kids, greece being screwed by investments banks then screwed again by the bigger boys in banking, the displacement of innocent people trying to survive by getting to a better place after west systematically f+cks their countries) then these groups will always win and there is an argument to say you all deserve what you get from them because you let them do it.
they dont exist right? but the evidence is all around you.
your life is very heavily controlled from what you eat to what you read, see and think. but we are all too intelligent to fall for it right?
call them what you like but the do exist and they control your life.
And I don't mean by asking questions such
"Why do think all this happened?"
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Of course they exist.
Sir Issac Newton told me when we were both being probed in the Zorbs inter-galactic spacecraft. Still at least he cleared up what happened in Deeley Plaza.0 - Sponsored links:
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charltonkeston said:
No such thing as a cheap drug. It takes about ten years to bring a new drug to market and about 1 billion pounds. The last thing business does is refuse to take a profit and have a loss instead.PopIcon said:I would not be surprised if pharmaceutical companies held back cheap and effective drugs. These are some of the most powerful companies on the planet. Humans are very money hungry and people have strange ideologies.
Crystal meth. Well cheap can make it your kitchen for less than a tenner1 -
You can make some pretty decent meth using tangled shoelaces, I've been tripping on them for days.nth london addick said:charltonkeston said:
No such thing as a cheap drug. It takes about ten years to bring a new drug to market and about 1 billion pounds. The last thing business does is refuse to take a profit and have a loss instead.PopIcon said:I would not be surprised if pharmaceutical companies held back cheap and effective drugs. These are some of the most powerful companies on the planet. Humans are very money hungry and people have strange ideologies.
Crystal meth. Well cheap can make it your kitchen for less than a tenner2 -
put politely you are asking for a sound bite answer to 6,000 + years of human history so in the spirit of your reply to me how about you disprove it?Henry Irving said:
Prove it.SEFREE said:nobody wants to feel they have been made of mug of all their life which is partly why people rebuff the idea that their life is so heavily controlled. the other part to that is an environment has been created where anyone who is seen to be thinking in an alternative or anti view to the controllers they are villified by the masses usually by laughter.
if people are unable to see through what is currently going on (lets just look at the last 15 years briefly as some wont have been alive long enough to go from 9/11, the following fake wars on terror, recession -the so called bank crisis (they stole your money!), uk top brass banging and possibly killing kids, greece being screwed by investments banks then screwed again by the bigger boys in banking, the displacement of innocent people trying to survive by getting to a better place after west systematically f+cks their countries) then these groups will always win and there is an argument to say you all deserve what you get from them because you let them do it.
they dont exist right? but the evidence is all around you.
your life is very heavily controlled from what you eat to what you read, see and think. but we are all too intelligent to fall for it right?
call them what you like but the do exist and they control your life.
And I don't mean by asking questions such
"Why do think all this happened?"
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You make it in your own kitchen Walter White.nth london addick said:charltonkeston said:
No such thing as a cheap drug. It takes about ten years to bring a new drug to market and about 1 billion pounds. The last thing business does is refuse to take a profit and have a loss instead.PopIcon said:I would not be surprised if pharmaceutical companies held back cheap and effective drugs. These are some of the most powerful companies on the planet. Humans are very money hungry and people have strange ideologies.
Crystal meth. Well cheap can make it your kitchen for less than a tenner0 -
I only eat carrots, never read anything apart from CL, and that's read to me because I always keep my eyes shut. Does that make me intelligent for not falling for it?SEFREE said:
your life is very heavily controlled from what you eat to what you read, see and think. but we are all too intelligent to fall for it right?
call them what you like but the do exist and they control your life.
We are what we eat, see and hear - it's called being sentient beings.
I am the love child of Vera Lynn and the devil - disprove it.1 -
Until the 4th month no?PopIcon said:
What i mean is if you can prolong someones life for £300 a month, its cheaper than giving them a cure that will cost £1000.charltonkeston said:
No such thing as a cheap drug. It takes about ten years to bring a new drug to market and about 1 billion pounds. The last thing business does is refuse to take a profit and have a loss instead.PopIcon said:I would not be surprised if pharmaceutical companies held back cheap and effective drugs. These are some of the most powerful companies on the planet. Humans are very money hungry and people have strange ideologies.
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Nah some old biddy up the road who thinks I am cleaning her kitchen0
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I like your logic!Fumbluff said:
Until the 4th month no?PopIcon said:
What i mean is if you can prolong someones life for £300 a month, its cheaper than giving them a cure that will cost £1000.charltonkeston said:
No such thing as a cheap drug. It takes about ten years to bring a new drug to market and about 1 billion pounds. The last thing business does is refuse to take a profit and have a loss instead.PopIcon said:I would not be surprised if pharmaceutical companies held back cheap and effective drugs. These are some of the most powerful companies on the planet. Humans are very money hungry and people have strange ideologies.
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You're so deluded I bet you vote Labour as well.SEFREE said:nobody wants to feel they have been made of mug of all their life which is partly why people rebuff the idea that their life is so heavily controlled. the other part to that is an environment has been created where anyone who is seen to be thinking in an alternative or anti view to the controllers they are villified by the masses usually by laughter.
if people are unable to see through what is currently going on (lets just look at the last 15 years briefly as some wont have been alive long enough to go from 9/11, the following fake wars on terror, recession -the so called bank crisis (they stole your money!), uk top brass banging and possibly killing kids, greece being screwed by investments banks then screwed again by the bigger boys in banking, the displacement of innocent people trying to survive by getting to a better place after west systematically f+cks their countries) then these groups will always win and there is an argument to say you all deserve what you get from them because you let them do it.
they dont exist right? but the evidence is all around you.
your life is very heavily controlled from what you eat to what you read, see and think. but we are all too intelligent to fall for it right?
call them what you like but the do exist and they control your life.0 -
That's my point. All about the spondoolies..Fumbluff said:
Until the 4th month no?PopIcon said:
What i mean is if you can prolong someones life for £300 a month, its cheaper than giving them a cure that will cost £1000.charltonkeston said:
No such thing as a cheap drug. It takes about ten years to bring a new drug to market and about 1 billion pounds. The last thing business does is refuse to take a profit and have a loss instead.PopIcon said:I would not be surprised if pharmaceutical companies held back cheap and effective drugs. These are some of the most powerful companies on the planet. Humans are very money hungry and people have strange ideologies.
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