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Reinstate Foxing Hunting or keep the ban?
DiscoCAFC
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I understand it is a sport for the hunters but I am totally against it. What harm does the Fox do to you apart from going into you're rubbish bags and creating a lot of mess?
What I don't understand is, why did the ban on Fox hunting introduce when we were still allowed to go Deer hunting? What is the difference between a Fox and a Deer?
For those who support Fox Hunting then you should support Tigers and any other Human eating creatures out on the loose so they can go Human hunting.
What I don't understand is, why did the ban on Fox hunting introduce when we were still allowed to go Deer hunting? What is the difference between a Fox and a Deer?
For those who support Fox Hunting then you should support Tigers and any other Human eating creatures out on the loose so they can go Human hunting.
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Can't stand it myself, but now the fox population is causing havoc apparently and there has to be culling. Use of a gun far better in my opinion. Can't abide the scene of the hunt getting ready to go. It's not just the dogs that are bloodthirsty!2
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Keep the ban.0
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Well there is one particular bastard of a fox that howls at 3 o'clock in the morning up and down my street. Frecking nuisance, especially as it seems to be getting more nooky than me...
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Blimey, we are having a slow summer. I see Ranieri has joined the foxes though ..1
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I don't think too many urban foxes are at risk from fox hunting5
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Yeah I read that a single fox can in a single year consume up to 65 tonnes of sheep flesh AND shit in over 45,000 gardens.7
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Hunting is the most humane way of killing a fox, because the fox has fun being chased by what it assumes are other foxes and cannot distinguish between this and the notion of imminent danger, even while it is being torn to shreds - it thinks they're playing, right up until the moment it dies. The hunters will generally hold a full CofE funeral for the fox - they're invariably committed naturalists with a genuine respect for the countryside - and because of their expertise they know just what havoc a fox can wreak - in just two weeks it can put four cattle farmers out of business, by eating the legs and bellies of their stock. The gentry kill out of noble necessity, and who among us does not love tradition?27
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hmm, tough one after I had to deal with yet more fox shit on the drive today.
they shit everywhere and they know exactly what they're doing. why shit on top of a children's slide or on a toy car which had been left out accidentally in the garden overnight? a car that measured 3" x 2". how accurate must their a-holes be?
in summary, they're tossers.14 -
There's an argument for keeping the fox population down but there's no justification for taking pleasure in hunting them down and having dogs chase them until they collapse from exhaustion and are ripped apart.16
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Still probably less annoying than having a pack of hounds and 2 dozen bugle tooting toffs on horse back come trampling through your Rhododendrons though.soapy_jones said:Well there is one particular bastard of a fox that howls at 3 o'clock in the morning up and down my street. Frecking nuisance, especially as it seems to be getting more nooky than me...
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What in fucking Strood?Exiled_Addick said:
Still probably less annoying than having a pack of hounds and 2 dozen bugle tooting toffs on horse back come trampling through your Rhododendrons though.soapy_jones said:Well there is one particular bastard of a fox that howls at 3 o'clock in the morning up and down my street. Frecking nuisance, especially as it seems to be getting more nooky than me...
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I hope not - I've put on a bit of weight since the ban and I can't get into my frock coat anymore.
Have you seen the price of a new one? Scandalous.0 -
Posh people enjoying themselves racing around in red coats drinking sherry tearing to pieces one fox per hunt .
Sounds like an excuse for a jolly good bit of fun rather than defence of the countryside to me.
Keep the ban.9 -
Well we have one lazy bastard fox who has shat in our garden 45,000 times.Leuth said:Yeah I read that a single fox can in a single year consume up to 65 tonnes of sheep flesh AND shit in over 45,000 gardens.
I'd destroy the lot of them purely through the disappointment of waking up on a snowy, winters morning, opening the curtains hoping to see a pure white carpet, and discovering the fox Olympics was played out during the night in your back garden.
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Keep the ban.
I don't have a problem with culling foxes if they are are vermin . Just shoot the little fuckers.
Its the poncy way the aristocracy do it with the hounds , the blooding of the children , the symbolic masonic red jackets and the sheer pomposity of it all. I've met a few in my time since i moved out to country and every one looks down at you as if your a piece of shit.
Don't let these poeple tell you they are doing it because they wan't the fox population down . It's purely an archaic ceremony or ritual if you like and nothing else.
It's hardly a surprise that the Tories wan't to make it legal again .12 -
It absolutely takes the biscuit how these 'beloved' vicious killers can prance all over our turf, our green and pleasant countryside, completely unchallenged.
Did anybody comment when a fox appeared at the top of a hill, in the first rays of a new morning sun, to salute the endless cycle of days and seasons? Perhaps, but did they watch as that same fox entered a chicken coop with the sort of movement and grace that we singularly lack, and embarrassed all of the farmer's chickens? Impressive one minute, deadly the next. We cannot afford to be complacent. There are serious failings in our mentality and foxes will always take advantage.
Instead of dealing with these foxes by hunting, shooting or laying down strychnine at den entrances, we sit back, look at each other's shrugging shoulders and trip over our own intentions as we lily-liver a smarmy peace - "you leave us alone, ok!" - would we have acted half so accommodatingly in the days of Ted Heath, of Gyles Brandreth? Of course not - swift, decisive - red brush nailed to the wall, game well and truly over.
It's almost sickening watching us try to deal with foxes nowadays. Why can't we go and just give them a bloody good going-over?1 -
It's not that - but on the back of a 17 hand hunter, you look down on everyone.Bedsaddick said:I've met a few in my time since i moved out to country and every one looks down at you as if your a piece of shit.
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They weren't on horses at the time . Just jolly hockey sticking it up in the local pub.Addickted said:
It's not that - but on the back of a 17 hand hunter, you look down on everyone.Bedsaddick said:I've met a few in my time since i moved out to country and every one looks down at you as if your a piece of shit.
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I think we should be allowed to hunt the posho barsterds on motorbikes with trained lions.14
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Can't be too careful Soapy, if the foxes are being driven into the towns and cities, stands to reason the hunts would have to follow them. Next thing you know they'll be charging down Strood high street terrorising the pensioners trying to get to the post office.soapy_jones said:
What in fucking Strood?Exiled_Addick said:
Still probably less annoying than having a pack of hounds and 2 dozen bugle tooting toffs on horse back come trampling through your Rhododendrons though.soapy_jones said:Well there is one particular bastard of a fox that howls at 3 o'clock in the morning up and down my street. Frecking nuisance, especially as it seems to be getting more nooky than me...
Is that what you want? ‘Cos that’s what’ll happen.
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I hate foxes as they kill my chickens by tearing them apart and leaving the carcasses behind.
I dislike fox hounds killing the foxes by tearing them apart and leaving the carcasses behind.
Even more I detest the twats on the horses in their silly coloured coats.
So on balance kill the foxes with guns and leave the hounds in the kennels, as for the idiots on horses .............?7 -
I suspect you live on a Farm? If that is the case, what is wrong spending extra money by placing protected fencing to protect you're animals and crops?lancashire lad said:I hate foxes as they kill my chickens by tearing them apart and leaving the carcasses behind.
I dislike fox hounds killing the foxes by tearing them apart and leaving the carcasses behind.
Even more I detest the twats on the horses in their silly coloured coats.
So on balance kill the foxes with guns and leave the hounds in the kennels, as for the idiots on horses .............?0 -
I live out in the Shropshire hills, a sight of a fox is fairly rare but a beautiful sight. No fox shit in gardens, they keep themselves to themselves. Rarely do local chicken keepers have any problems, only through complacency. The local hunt on the other hand is full of complete tossers, no control over the hounds who have killed domestic pets. Paranoid to the extreme i.e. asking me what I was doing and what I was taking photos of, whilst walking on a local footpath. They generally have ignored the ban so far and ignore anyone who does not want them hunting on their land, the hounds obviously know no difference. So yes please keep the ban.16
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The Ban concerns hunting with dogs and applies to both foxes and deer. See www.gov.uk/hunting/hunting-equipment
Cameron knows that many Tory MPs are opposed to the repeal of the ban on hunting with dogs. Committed to a 'free vote', he now seeks to gain support not for repeal but amendment, the result of which, if passed by Parliament, will make it much easier for his type to chase, maim and kill. The proposed 'Statutory Instrument' would amend a key clause of the Act, so as to allow a full pack of hounds to flush a fox to guns. Hunts could thereby carry on hunting and, by simply having a firearm on hand, could claim, if questioned, to be flushing to guns.
Regarding the shooting of foxes at present: Sadly, some who engage in hunting foxes feel cheated when the fox goes to ground in an earth, hole, drain, etc. A 'dig out' is a nasty business, whereby a terrier, or terriers, often with a radio transmitter fitted to its collar, is placed into the hole or drain. The dogs, bred to fight, attack the often exhausted fox. If the dog doesn't come out - as is often the case, as it doesn't give up fighting - and remains underground, the 'Terrier man' will dig down to where the dog is - located by radio signal - and drag the fox out. Rules state that the fox, if alive at this point, should be shot. Often, the poor thing is simply thrown to the hounds.
League Against Cruel Sports:
www.league.org.uk/our-campaigns/hunting/protect-the-hunting-act
Hunt Saboteurs Association:
www.huntsabs.org.uk
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It's a strange dichotomy - the urban fox is rapidly becoming a pain in the arse, whilst the countryside fox causes no more problems than it ever has done in the past. Maybe we could have an 'updated' version of The Hunt - with local ne'erdowells on Vespas roaming round with a bunch of pit bulls chasing them over garden fences instead of hedges?10
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Keep the ban. Nature will level their numbers1
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I don't think I'm allowed an opinion being a town living man who's taxes help country folk keep their way of life. Townies just don't understand the ways and traditions of the country.2
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Fox hunting is for arseholes, utter, complete
Urban foxes are a nuisance and I'd happily shoot them myself. Nobody is going to convince me the lifestyle of country folk has been destroyed by the ban. Only the enjoyment of horrible pieces of work on horseback with dogs that struggle to differentiate between a domestic cat and a fox. Not that that makes ripping foxes to shreds for amusement ok5 -
Carter said:
Fox hunting is for arseholes, utter, complete
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That about sums it up. There is no valid argument in favour of fox hunting.2
