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Simon Church 100%

Wheresmeticket
Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
in General Charlton
I was reading on another thread that some had the courage to say they were sick of the knee-jerk pisstaking we do of some of our players when they don't achieve what we hoped, but who still give everything they've got. I'd like to start by saying that he may make a few errors, but he has been with us for some time now and has never turned his back on the team, has never failed to try his hardest and has had some bad luck. Let's hear some stuff about why Church is a good thing. Please don't turn this thread into a tirade of abuse for someone that has become a scapegoat for some. I've said what I like about him. Any takers? If people get abusive I will be asking the mods to close the thread.
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  • RedMist
    RedMist Posts: 1,404
    Impeccable timing!
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Maybe I should start a campaign to get a banner to demonstrate our support. That worked so well for Chris Powell.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,954
    I might start a thread called 'will we ever win another game again?' to see if it has the same effect.
  • RedMist
    RedMist Posts: 1,404
    ...But he was still in the side at that point ;O)
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited September 2014
    OK. I give up. I tried to be nice but no-one wanted to play. (Guy on his own in the corner of the playground in the snorkel parka).
  • RedMist
    RedMist Posts: 1,404
    ...with mittens on a string.
    You tried, and that's what's important, just like poor Simon did. Sorry couldn't not say it..
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,644
    The chest and finish at blackburn away last season was pretty tasty...
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    OK. Hows this. Last season the service he and Kermo got was absolutely f****ing dire. Our big star striker struggled to score a damn thing, and when he was sold half way through the season doubled his total within around five games - so in my opinion SC carried the can for a shit midfield.
  • RedMist
    RedMist Posts: 1,404
    Wheresmeticket? said:

    OK. Hows this. Last season the service he and Kermo got was absolutely f****ing dire. Our big star striker struggled to score a damn thing, and when he was sold half way through the season doubled his total within around five games - so in my opinion SC carried the can for a shit midfield.

    Agreed, so is he just unlucky to not get a game this season?
  • creepyaddick
    creepyaddick Posts: 6,152
    he'll come good, mark my words

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  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    RedMist said:

    Wheresmeticket? said:

    OK. Hows this. Last season the service he and Kermo got was absolutely f****ing dire. Our big star striker struggled to score a damn thing, and when he was sold half way through the season doubled his total within around five games - so in my opinion SC carried the can for a shit midfield.

    Agreed, so is he just unlucky to not get a game this season?
    He HAS had a few games this season. I'm not suggesting he should start every game - or even any of them, but I do think that getting a virtual kicking on the primary Charlton forum as a matter of course is unfair and counterproductive. And I'm feeling nice today.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    creepyaddick said:

    he'll come good, mark my words

    Thank you CA. A fine show of faith.
  • RedMist
    RedMist Posts: 1,404
    Wheresmeticket? said:

    RedMist said:

    Wheresmeticket? said:

    OK. Hows this. Last season the service he and Kermo got was absolutely f****ing dire. Our big star striker struggled to score a damn thing, and when he was sold half way through the season doubled his total within around five games - so in my opinion SC carried the can for a shit midfield.

    Agreed, so is he just unlucky to not get a game this season?
    He HAS had a few games this season. I'm not suggesting he should start every game - or even any of them, but I do think that getting a virtual kicking on the primary Charlton forum as a matter of course is unfair and counterproductive. And I'm feeling nice today.
    Aye, that's what I was alluding to, that he still hasn't done any more than last season, but this isn't the place to argue this and gladly step aside for your cause here.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    What I've seen of him this season he's done some good quality supportive stuff, kept oppo defences busy and has put in a couple of assists. I don't suppose he'll score too many goals himself, but in the last 20-30 minutes of a match I think he brings something to the team.
  • scabbyhorse
    scabbyhorse Posts: 2,543
    Frustration??
  • RedMist
    RedMist Posts: 1,404
    Wheresmeticket? said:

    What I've seen of him this season he's done some good quality supportive stuff, kept oppo defences busy and has put in a couple of assists. I don't suppose he'll score too many goals himself, but in the last 20-30 minutes of a match I think he brings something to the team.

    I guess people just don't see this as enough for someone in the 'striker' position, as invaluable as all those things actually are?
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited September 2014
    Maybe he'd do better as a number 10?
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,877
    WMT

    Its a p!sstake in itself starting this thread. Its like suggesting Church is someone we all need to feel sorry for, like the loser bullied kid at school and that he is internally suffering.

    The truth is, he is not that bad of a footballer at this level... he was just not clinical enough when we needed to be and Im sure he knows that and is working on his game. We didnt get relegated in the end.

    Some of the things you suggested on the post make it seem like you know everything that goes on in training.

    He is not getting 1st team action at the moment theres nothing to get behind him on because we dont currently see him.

    He probably doesnt look at this site to be honest, for anyone worrying. He is a professional footballer and when things are not going right in his personal game, he SHOULD only hear and report to the voice of the manager.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited September 2014
    Dave2l said:

    WMT

    Its a p!sstake in itself starting this thread. Its like suggesting Church is someone we all need to feel sorry for, like the loser bullied kid at school and that he is internally suffering.

    The truth is, he is not that bad of a footballer at this level... he was just not clinical enough when we needed to be and Im sure he knows that and is working on his game. We didnt get relegated in the end.

    Some of the things you suggested on the post make it seem like you know everything that goes on in training.

    He is not getting 1st team action at the moment theres nothing to get behind him on because we dont currently see him.

    He probably doesnt look at this site to be honest, for anyone worrying. He is a professional footballer and when things are not going right in his personal game, he SHOULD only hear and report to the voice of the manager.

    I do feel he comes in for some unneccesary and petty abuse.

    What have I said that makes it "seems like I know everything that goes on in training"?

    I take your point that I might have implied we should feel sorry for him - not my intention.

    ...and it isn't a pisstake, don't overreact.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,877
    Wheresmeticket? said:

    Dave2l said:

    WMT

    Its a p!sstake in itself starting this thread. Its like suggesting Church is someone we all need to feel sorry for, like the loser bullied kid at school and that he is internally suffering.

    The truth is, he is not that bad of a footballer at this level... he was just not clinical enough when we needed to be and Im sure he knows that and is working on his game. We didnt get relegated in the end.

    Some of the things you suggested on the post make it seem like you know everything that goes on in training.

    He is not getting 1st team action at the moment theres nothing to get behind him on because we dont currently see him.

    He probably doesnt look at this site to be honest, for anyone worrying. He is a professional footballer and when things are not going right in his personal game, he SHOULD only hear and report to the voice of the manager.

    I do feel he comes in for some unneccesary and petty abuse.

    What have I said that makes it "seems like I know everything that goes on in training"?

    I take your point that I might have implied we should feel sorry for him - not my intention.

    ...and it isn't a pisstake, don't overreact.
    You talk about him in very good light like he has never turned his back on us and is this no nonsense workhorse. Just sounds a bit like you know him personally. He might have been bugging for a transfer since the season eneded.

    Your post was not a "p!ss take", it just seems strange the amount of supportive church threads are either over the top in support and also the ones constantly having a pop are a bit sad. He gets too many threads basically.

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  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    I just based my observations on what I had seen of him on the pitch - not as many as most on here probably.

    All fair points though Dave.
  • A-R-T-H-U-R
    A-R-T-H-U-R Posts: 7,678
    Wheresmeticket? said:

    Maybe he'd do better as a number 10?

    Is he even standing?
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Eh?
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Well this thread has gone tits up.
  • mrbligh
    mrbligh Posts: 3,056
    churchinho <3
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,443
    I don't know why he gets so much stick. He scored a hatrick in the playoff final of '98 and people still hate him.
  • creepyaddick
    creepyaddick Posts: 6,152
    He will come good..... listen to me now
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    When I played footie with my mates, I was fittest by far and did a similar job of harrying, making unselfish runs and generally getting in peoples faces. Didn't stop me getting picked near last choosing sides though. I was crap.

    TBF I did have a harder shot than Church.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,233
    Bob Peeters has not picked him for the 18 in the last two games.
    A lad who was 17 this month got in ahead of him today.
    This has become a spurious debate.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited September 2014
    No debate. A call for reason. Wrong forum. Mods please sink.

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