One Leo Messi
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Messi embarrassing there. At no point when someone grabs your jaw would it mean you fall over.2
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Really disappointed with Messi there... Whenever you see him with the ball you have to drive a truck into the side of him to take him out (i.e. the player who had to rugby tackle to stop him)
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at that level i would do anything to get another player sent off... #justsaying1
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I hate when you hear commentators or professionals defending a players over reaction with "he did it to draw the refs attention".
If the ref had seen it he would have done something about it anyway. If he never saw it then you would hope the linesman had. If both never saw it then it gets dealt with after the game, the guy won't get away with it.
If you throw yourself on the floor to draw attention to an incident which the ref missed, what benefit do you get apart from looking pathetic? The ref shouldn't be sending opposition off based on a players over reaction.
I'm not saying players man handling other players for intimidation because they can't match the footballing ability is right. But it is also not right to throw yourself on the ground to gain an advantage.
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On anyone else, it would just be a belly tickle.0
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Top Champions League scorer of all time, top La Liga scorer of all time. Not a bad week for the lad...0
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Failed the CL height test.I_Saw_Semedo_Score said:Top Champions League scorer of all time, top La Liga scorer of all time. Not a bad week for the lad...
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Couldnt do it on a cold night down the Valley1
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For now.I_Saw_Semedo_Score said:Top Champions League scorer of all time.
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But can he mark opposition centre backs at corners and set pieces?I_Saw_Semedo_Score said:Top Champions League scorer of all time, top La Liga scorer of all time. Not a bad week for the lad...
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Erm, yeah thats kind of how it works with record holders.Riviera said:
For now.I_Saw_Semedo_Score said:Top Champions League scorer of all time.
Enjoy what this lad is doing while he is around, we won't see another like him any time soon.1 -
I'm also in the Ronaldo camp. Messi has sat in La Liga and been comfortable for too long. Remember, that league is:
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Erm, yeah thats kind of how it works with record holders.Riviera said:
For now.I_Saw_Semedo_Score said:Top Champions League scorer of all time.
Enjoy what this lad is doing while he is around, we won't see another like him any time soon.0 -
back when ronaldo was at united you could make the arguement that the prem wascafcnick1992 said:I'm also in the Ronaldo camp. Messi has sat in La Liga and been comfortable for too long. Remember, that league is:
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fact is messi has done it consistently from a young age and at champions league level0 -
And he's played in the same league since he was about 12! Ronaldo has played in 3 different leagues. Messi's domestic league record is worth noting but to crown him king of CL whilst Ronaldo is just a fag paper behind and could have broken the record himself is pointless. It will be nip and tuck between the two of them in CL over the next few years and I fully expect Ronaldo to have the record when both are retired.
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Messi is a few years younger - surely he will retire with the record0
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I like the clip where you see the La Liga opposition player try to foul Messi... He just shrugs it off and keeps going, the player then catches back up with Messi and proper rugby tackles him to the ground to stop him from getting any further - Ronaldo on the other hand would have gone down the moment he'd have sensed the first challenge coming
Thats the difference in class for me... Messi dont need to cheat0 -
Ronaldo for me.0
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A bit like George Best, he used to ride tackles and carry on.ForeverAddickted said:I like the clip where you see the La Liga opposition player try to foul Messi... He just shrugs it off and keeps going, the player then catches back up with Messi and proper rugby tackles him to the ground to stop him from getting any further - Ronaldo on the other hand would have gone down the moment he'd have sensed the first challenge coming
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Overall Messi, but Ronaldo the last 18 months.0
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Ronaldo has played about 20 Champions League games more than MessiRiviera said:And he's played in the same league since he was about 12! Ronaldo has played in 3 different leagues. Messi's domestic league record is worth noting but to crown him king of CL whilst Ronaldo is just a fag paper behind and could have broken the record himself is pointless. It will be nip and tuck between the two of them in CL over the next few years and I fully expect Ronaldo to have the record when both are retired.
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I think Messi is probably the better player technically, I just prefer watching Ronaldo's direct, powerful style.
Both are astonishingly good though, amongst the best ever and it's a privilege to be alive whilst both are plying their trade.1 -
You saying he doesn't dive??? You need to watch a bit more Spanish football.ForeverAddickted said:I like the clip where you see the La Liga opposition player try to foul Messi... He just shrugs it off and keeps going, the player then catches back up with Messi and proper rugby tackles him to the ground to stop him from getting any further - Ronaldo on the other hand would have gone down the moment he'd have sensed the first challenge coming
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Why does this always turn into Messi v Ronaldo?
The topic is Messi, and the fact the HE broke two major records this week.
Comparing them IMO is disrespectful to their own individual ability and devalues what they have done for the game. There is no definitive answer to the tedious debate, just enjoy them.0 -
Yes there is, Ronaldo is better.0
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Only one of them has been tested in a real league.0
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Messi has been tested in the Champions League and as it stands is the greatest goal scorer in its history. Putting 3/4/5 goals in a game past English and German teams.Stu_of_Kunming said:Only one of them has been tested in a real league.
Not to mention 21 goals in El Clasico matches.
This whole "could he do it on a cold night at Stoke City" idea is absolute nonsense.1 -
I think the test is a wet Tuesday night at Grimsby actually......3
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